Sarah Sanders: White House 'raid' on Trump's former doctor is 'standard operating procedure'

[DonViejo]

Source: RawStory



DAVID EDWARDS
01 MAY 2018 AT 15:24 ET

White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Tuesday insisted that President Donald Trump’s former bodyguard was following “standard operating procedure” when he reportedly raided the office of the president’s former doctor.

During Tuesday’s White House briefing, Sanders was asked why former White House staffer Keith Schiller forcibly took President Trump’s records from his former physician, Dr. Harold Bornstein.

“As is standard operating procedure, the White House medical unit took possession of the president’s medical records,” Sanders explained, disputing reports that characterized the incident as a “raid.” One reporter noted that some experts had compared the alleged raid to a “burglary.”

“Once again, it would be standard procedure for the president — a newly elected president’s medical records to be in possession of the White House’s medical unit,” Sanders insisted. “That’s what was taking place. Those records were being transferred over to the White House medical unit as requested by the president.”

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Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/sarah-sanders-white-house-raid-trumps-former-doctor-standard-operating-procedure/

[dameatball]

1. Henceforth all questions regarding PropeciaGate will be ignored.

[olegramps]

17. What is the problem? This is standard procedure in any dictatorship. His mentor does it.

The doctor is lucky he wasn't there to object. He could be dead.

[get the red out]

2. She's probably right

I wouldn't doubt at all that this was Trump's "standard operating procedure".

[Sophia4]

36. Here is a statement on New York state law on this issue:

Q. Are doctors and hospitals required to keep medical records?

A. Yes, but not forever. Physicians and hospitals are required by state law to maintain patient records for at least six years from the date of the patient's last visit. A doctor must keep obstetrical records and records of children for at least six years or until the child reaches age 19, whichever is later. Hospitals must keep obstetrical records and records of children for at least six years or until the child is age 21, whichever is later. So, for example, if you had surgery at age 11 and want your records at age 18, the law requires that the physician and the hospital have them. But, if you are 35 and are trying to track down your childhood immunization records, the law does not require either a physician or a hospital to have them.
Q. Who can request medical records?

A. An individual can request his or her own medical records. The law also permits access by other "qualified persons." This includes parents or guardians when they approved the care or when it was provided on an emergency basis. Attorneys representing patients may also request records, as can a committee appointed to represent the needs of an incompetent patient.
Q. How do I request the records?

A. A request for medical records must be made in writing to either the individual physician or the health care facility. The request should indicate that a qualified person is making the request and should be as precise as possible. The request should identify the provider from whom the information is requested and describe the information being sought. If the records are to be sent to a third party, such as another physician, provide the name and address of that individual. Requests must be signed. A practitioner or institution may request that the signature be notarized.
Q. How long will it take to see my records?

A. Once your request is received, a physician or health care facility has 10 days to provide you with an opportunity to inspect your records. The law does not provide a specific time period by which copies of medical records must be provided. However, the state Health Department considers 10 to 14 days to be a reasonable time in which a practitioner should respond to such a request.

https://www.health.ny.gov/publications/1443/

The website is the New York state site. It's the official site.

Did Trump comply with that law? Interesting question.

[Volaris]

63. If If he did, there would be a paper trail, and whoever was the reporter would have found it.

So to answer your question...
No he sure as fuck didnt.

(On Edit)--One day. It took ONE DAY for her to take it all in, reflect...and then put her eyes back on.
Fuck her feelings. She's a liar. And so fuck the press that defended her, and the WHPC that allows themselves to be gas-lit this way, day after day after day.

[Nitram]

75. Thanks, Sophia4. That ends all the speculation and places the discussion back into the realm of fac.

[HopeAgain]

76. Patients aren't the ones responsible under HIPAA

the doctors are. But because this action did not follow HIPAA procedures, this was three people busting into a Doctor's office and taking a record without legal authority with at least one of them acting as a Federal Employee. This amounts to an illegal seizure and a violation of the doctor's 4th Amendment rights.

[grumpyduck]

3. This is such a crock of doo-doo

If that had been SOP, they would have been even maybe slightly more f'ing civil about it. REquest the records formally, amke an appt, and go get hem. Ol' SHS is right back to her SOP.

[Larrybanal]

11. plus they took a photo

from the doctors lobby. why do they need trump/ doctor photo for health records?

[BigmanPigman]

49. I saw my doctor today and filled him in on this new news

and he got it on his desktop right away. he couldn't believe it and said that it was definitely against the law. He also said that the moron's prostate meds that also grow hair actually do work and a person does grow hair.

[Achilleaze]

4. Setting fire to her facts

and giving herself - and the submissive Corporate Media Blowdry Set, Inc. - ye olde republican Smokey Eyeball*

* aka stinkeye.

[RandySF]

5. Bullshit

I had my medical records transferred from Michigan to California and had to complete a not-so-short form. The White, under normal SOP, would not send Trump’s personal bodyguard to raid Dr. Feelgood’s office.

[RandomAccess]

22. Exactly. This is utter nonsense and very frightening.

I assume they were seized so they wouldn't EVER be leaked, and that there are things in there he doesn't want anyone to know.

[KansasKali]

6. Liar liar, smokey eye on fire.

Aunt Coulter strikes again.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. Now, that's just nasty.

Why don't we do something nice for Sarah Sanders and pitch in to buy her a basket of Neutrogena wipes.

[procon]

7. Nixon said the same thing.

The law didn't agree with him either.

[marble falls]

8. So, no due process, no police authority, no court order .... just cheetolini.

[dameatball]

10. Isn't insulting the people at the WHCD also considered "standard operating proceudre?"

Which SOP's are we supposed to keep?

[Hekate]

12. Well, in this brave new autocratic world, I guess it would be SOP.

Banana republic, here we come.

[nature-lover]

13. Just because she was called out national television does not mean the lying stops.

[dembotoz]

21. exactly...its a new day so new lies

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

68. If she's like her boss, she'll double down on her lying.

Or triple down. Or quadruple down.

I don't think there's a bottom to their lying.

[dameatball]

14. Funny thing about HIPAA violations. There is no statute of limitations as far as I know.....:)

[arithia]

27. 180 days, actually

So, if he had other patients with files in whatever cabinet he was hiding VonPussygrabbar's bullshit, those patients must be notified as access to his data storage was illegally obtained by Trump's lawyer and bodyguard. Even seeing the names of other patients is a HIPAA violation- it's why dr's offices are legally required to keep sign in sheets behind the desk.

From that point, they have 180 days from which to make a complaint.

HIPAA also allows for the release of all medical records to new physicians with the signature of the patient. All doc's offices must for legal purposes keep all documentation of services rendered for *6 years*. If his standing release form on file with his old doc had expired, all Don the Con needed to do was sign a new one and have it sent in. He could have done that from the Oval Office.

Hucksterbee really shouldn't lie about something as well documented as HIPAA laws. There are too many medical professionals and assholes like me who worked in the industry who know this is illegal bullshit.

[dameatball]

31. I think you are correct from the complaint angle. I was coming from a different perspective.

As in, if a HIPAA complaint is filed in a timely fashion it just doesn't go away because someone is an elected official, such as POTUS. After their term is over they would seemingly be liable as long as the complaint was filed appropriately. Again, I am not an attorney and could be wrong. Good post.

[erronis]

48. And I agree with you: HIPAA violations do not have a "get well" period

And thanks to everybody that doesn't turn HIPAA into HIPPA/O. It's absolutely amazing how many commercial sites trying to sell their healthcare/PHI awareness don't know how make sure their acronyms are accurate.

[RockRaven]

15. Accidentally confessing to a pattern of criminality

just a typical day at the Trump White House.

[TheSmarterDog]

16. Gee, that doesn't sound sinister AT ALL.

[muntrv]

18. Why? Doctor diagnosed Trump with tiny hands?

[rzemanfl]

20. Nickname for Richard. n/t

[Girard442]

19. Breaking news, 12/25/2018 -- SHS: "It's perfectly normal to dine on fresh baby on Christmas."

"All presidents have done it."

[RandomAccess]

23. The lawlessness -- and gaslighting lies about it -- escalates

I find this very frightening.

[George II]

24. "Standard operating procedure?" Where, Nazi Germany or Putin's Russia?

This is the United States of America, Sarah.

She's just blowing smoke, maybe time for more "smokey eye".

[erronis]

52. Is Mike "BIG failure, not a real Christian" Huckabee giving advice?

It's gotta be hard for a handmade tail [stet] to figure out the way the winds are blowin.

Poor Sarah. In the end she'll also be able to write a book that might pay the self-publishing fees.

[mehrrh]

25. records bust?

This is not SOP for obtaining records, even if they had written permission from DJT.
The patient is entitled to his records, yes - but copies of them.
The originals are usually required to be kept by the doctor for a period of years.

[livetohike]

26. She forgot to add: .....for the Mob. This is the most

criminal administration of my life. What's worse is the Congress just sits on their hands and the Press sit there and politely nod.

[Marie Marie]

28. I want to know what is in those records that Trump does not want to be exposed.

And isn't this the same guy who freaked out on the raid on his lawyer's office?

[C_U_L8R]

29. You can't say any of this is standard operating procedure

Particularly having medical records under several false names.
What vile diseases would Trump be hiding?

[lapfog_1]

30. standard operating procedure my ass

SOP... fill out the HIPAA forms, send a request for the transfer of medical records, the doctor sends them to the White House medical team.

[dameatball]

32. Bingo!

[dameatball]

33. One other thought......sounds outrageous, but did this doctor actually have any other clients?

I have no idea. Seems ridiculous, but.....?

[Thekaspervote]

34. Sarah Sarah Sarah so full of crap. Michelle had you nailed... liar liar pants on fire

[KY_EnviroGuy]

35. Huckabuck once again says tRump is above the law.

That's their standard operating procedure, for sure.

tRump is her god and master.

...... ......

[Chickensoup]

37. Yes....Standard operating procedures

For mafia bosses not for the president
Of this great country. .... Shame!!!

[angrychair]

38. When did this happen??

That is a crime!

[wryter2000]

39. WTF

And we’re supposed to apologize to her?? No effing way.

[CTyankee]

43. She was actually smirking at that press conference...

[wryter2000]

58. She always does

I can’t watch her

[Roy Rolling]

40. Here's the Problem

Confidential medical records are transferred from physician to physician directly, not physician to third-party to new doctor.
There is nothing that legally allows Trump's bodyguard to retrieve those records from a doctor except in extraordinary circumstances.

That prevents any random idiot from requesting Trump's records. It takes a special idiot for Trump's team willing to break those laws.

[SunSeeker]

44. Plus, they would only be entitled to COPIES, even if they had an authorization.

Under NY law, doctors are required to maintain a patient's records for 5 years. These goons came into Dr. Feelgood's office and took the doctor's original records, not just copies. So, he was left without any records of his treatments of Trump for the last 5 years. That put him in violation of NY law, as noted up the thread.

This was a coverup operation, not a record retreival. They wanted to get rid of any evidence of Trump's medical conditions held by this doctor.

[volstork]

65. True,

unless an individual had explicit authorization in writing from the individual to whom the records belong. I don't practice in NY, so can't speak to their specific laws, but generally, the record is the legal property of the patient, and only the patient can specify what may be done with those records.

I would never release records to a third party without written authorization. HIPAA requires that a written "release" be executed even in order to send records to, for example, a consulting physician.

Just more BS from Aunt Lydia.

[global1]

41. Raid Standard Operating Procedure For Trump Normalization Of Trump's Actions....nt

[Mr. Ected]

42. If this is Standard Operating Procedure, it would have been done at least once before in history

I defy anyone in the Trump Administration to demonstrate that Obama, or Bush, or Clinton, or Bush, or Reagan, or Carter, or Ford, or Nixon, or Johnson, or Kennedy, or Eisenhower, or Truman, or Roosevelt, or anyone else had ever entered upon their physician's office to demand the delivery of medical records to the patient.

Why does the press let her get away with this? WHY?

[SunSeeker]

45. Why? Slavish fealty in exchange for access.

It's basically treason, when you think about what's really happening here.

[mnhtnbb]

46. Total bullshit. How's that smoky eye thing today, Sarah?

I am a former hospital administrator. Yes, laws vary from state to state. Medical records belong to the doctor or the hospital. Patients have rights to obtain copies of those records, and that's where state law may vary.

But sending in a goon squad to confiscate medical records? That is NOT standard operating procedure in any state.

Chalk up another lie to Sarah in defense of the orange liar in chief.

[They_Live]

47. sop

for criminals, that is...

[DallasNE]

50. Just Like How "Has" Was A Clerical Error For "Had" On Iran Nuclear Porgram

10-14 days was misread as 10-14 minutes and as a verbal request rather than in writing. Anybody could make minor mistakes like this.

Also, is it normal for the original records to be transmitted or are copies provided. I would expect copies because what happens if an accident destroys the original records in transport. Indeed, I would expect the records to be sealed in transport in a secured fashion. Everything about this sounds like a burglary - sorry - and an issue for law enforcement to address. (Could there be paternity records in what was taken, for instance - or a mental health issue?).

[DRoseDARs]

51. She's not lying. Breaking federal law is S.O.P. for this administration. nt

[trof]

53. SOP for the Gambinos or Bonanos maybe.

And no, I'm not a bit sorry about anything Michelle Wolf said about Smokey Eye.

[keithbvadu2]

54. Super Christian Mike Huckabee raised a very good liar.

Super Christian Mike Huckabee raised a very good liar.

Sarah Huck lie straight face
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[orangecrush]

55. MORE BULLSHIT FROM AUNT LYDIA

[mgardener]

56. What about the dr.s other patients?

Was their confidentiality and privacy breached?
Did Trump's squad actually go in to the records and get them themselves? Was their privacy violated?

[Cha]

57. Hope the Stockholm Sydrome WHPC

are happy they protected this LIAR.

[orangecrush]

60. my thoughts exactly

well said.

[mfcorey1]

59. Right back to her 'lying' ways is indicative of Sarah!

[japple]

61. This is what jumped out at me: "A newly-elected president..."

He is no longer newly elected. He was newly-elected in 2017. Why is he just now waiting to get his henchmen to seize these medical records?

Once again, it would be standard procedure for the president — a newly elected president’s medical records to be in possession of the White House’s medical unit,” Sanders insisted. “That’s what was taking place. Those records were being transferred over to the White House medical unit as requested by the president.”

[NastyRiffraff]

62. So it's true...

I wasn't sure if the entire story were true, given the source was Harold Bornstein. But, not surprising in this mis-administration. We can expect raids on the offices of ANYONE who disagrees with Trump, or who Trump feels threatened by. It's the way a dictator does things.

[bucolic_frolic]

64. This is yet another coverup

[Calista241]

69. If it's a coverup, it started well before the appointment of Robert Mueller.

Wouldn't surprise me, but if they were cleaning up in February, I wonder how thorough they were, and how much info would be remaining for Mueller to find.

[paleotn]

66. Yea, SOP for Nazis,...

and other totalitarian scum, you fucking liar.

[keithbvadu2]

67. "as requested by the president."

"as requested by the president.”

Now strong armed burglary is "requested".

[guss]

70. sara

Her eyes are smoking Big Time:nuke

[raising2moredems]

71. In what universe is this "standard operating procedure"?

She is an embarrassment to our country and working women everywhere. On top of her $179K salary, she and Kellyanne get their makeup professionally done on the taxpayers dime. Makes me wonder who is buying her clothes?

If Bill Clinton or Obama pulled this same stunt, the pukes would have squealed so loud they'd have won an Emmy were they in Deliverance.

[raven mad]

72. I'd be willing to place a bet

Sarah's smokey eyeliner thickened while she spoke.

[Javaman]

73. shaking people down and demanding protection money is of course

standard procedure by any mob outfit.

[Nitram]

74. Sounds like breaking and entering, as well as theft.

[dalton99a]

77. It is standard operating procedure in Russia, China, North Korea, the Philippines, etc.

[lagomorph777]

78. ...in the Mafia