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demmiblue

(36,860 posts)
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 01:14 PM Jun 2018

Trump Orders Perry to Stem Coal, Nuclear Power Plant Closures

Source: Bloomberg

President Donald Trump ordered Energy Secretary Rick Perry to take immediate action to stem power plant closures in the name of national security, arguing that a decline in coal and nuclear electricity is putting the nation’s grid at risk, Bloomberg News reports.

"Impending retirements of fuel-secure power facilities are leading to a rapid depletion of a critical part of our nation’s energy mix and impacting the resilience of our power grid," White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders said in an emailed statement Friday. Trump has directed Perry "to prepare immediate steps to stop the loss of these resources and looks forward to his recommendations."

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Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-01/trump-orders-perry-to-stem-coal-nuclear-power-plant-closures

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Trump Orders Perry to Stem Coal, Nuclear Power Plant Closures (Original Post) demmiblue Jun 2018 OP
(sniff) (sniff) Hey! Doesn't this smell like socialism? Thomas Hurt Jun 2018 #1
This is part of Dear Leader Shitler's 5 year plan komrade! workinclasszero Jun 2018 #18
Now, now... Xolodno Jun 2018 #19
Corporate welfare... the republican way of saying thank you truthisfreedom Jun 2018 #2
It's the same as farm subsidies bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #3
Hey wait a second Rural_Progressive Jun 2018 #4
What's the mad-man going to order next? PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #5
The man is a Russian agent working to bring down America from the inside Botany Jun 2018 #6
This + tarriffs will kill off solar & wind Crash2Parties Jun 2018 #7
Continuing Trump's long standing practice of bad business JDC Jun 2018 #8
Go Solar! gilligan Jun 2018 #9
How can the POTUS "order" an industry to buy something it doesn't want? jpak Jun 2018 #10
What an outstanding dictator. sinkingfeeling Jun 2018 #11
Thank you Lyin' Ryan SCVDem Jun 2018 #12
The REAL National Security threat is actually doing what he asks. bitterross Jun 2018 #13
plan would exempt power plants from obeying a host of environmental laws and spend billions to keep riversedge Jun 2018 #14
Your post said it all...this is a gross distortion of the marketplace which ... SWBTATTReg Jun 2018 #15
Kicking to add the comments from Rick Perry on June 4: TexasTowelie Jun 2018 #16
Using corporate welfare, he's dragging us kicking and screaming into the steam age. truthisfreedom Jun 2018 #17
Sure..slow down the Maxheader Jun 2018 #20
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
18. This is part of Dear Leader Shitler's 5 year plan komrade!
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 02:01 PM
Jun 2018

Trump will just order up the economy he wants, ban all thoughts of global climate change, institute state religion and lead us into a glorious future!

for the glorious future part of course.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
19. Now, now...
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 06:55 PM
Jun 2018

Even Scandinavian, Market and European "lite" socialism would adjust for market forces and regulate obsolete jobs to the dust heap while retraining the workers for something new.

Call it for what it is...which is two options;

1. Communism.

2. Corporate Welfare.

I'm opting for the latter...but I may be a bit biased.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
2. Corporate welfare... the republican way of saying thank you
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 01:20 PM
Jun 2018

Not for your services, not for your success, but simply for your huge corporate contributions to super pacs.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
3. It's the same as farm subsidies
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 01:23 PM
Jun 2018

we'll be paying electric companies to jolt the (unwanted and unused) electricity into the ground

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
5. What's the mad-man going to order next?
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jun 2018

Have the Commerce Secretary demand the Electronics Industry gear-up for production of 8-Tracks, cassette tapes and VCRs?

(there's also a recent demand for buggy whips too, I hear.)

FUCKING IDIOT





Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
7. This + tarriffs will kill off solar & wind
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 02:50 PM
Jun 2018

also, something I read on the Twitter this morning:

Didn't the Supreme Court rule in Citizen's United that how & where we (human & corporate "persons" alike) choose to spend our money considered Free Speech?

Forcing us to purchase our power from CO2-heavy sources overrides our purchasing decisions & therefore is bridging our free speech.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
13. The REAL National Security threat is actually doing what he asks.
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 04:10 PM
Jun 2018

It will make us less secure as a country to remain dependent on these old technologies and not developing the newer ones the rest of the world is moving toward.

The move toward solar and wind is also the push to develop better localized storage capabilities that would make our grid LESS vulnerable to attack. Remaining on these centralized sources of power that require the vast, complex distribution networks we have now is the greater risk.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
14. plan would exempt power plants from obeying a host of environmental laws and spend billions to keep
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 07:25 PM
Jun 2018

Thank god for environmental groups!


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-demands-immediate-steps-to-keep-coal-plants-open

........The plan would exempt power plants from obeying a host of environmental laws and spend billions to keep coal-fired plants open.

A diverse group of energy industry groups — including oil, natural gas, solar and wind power — condemned the proposal, saying it would raise energy prices and distort markets.

“Unprecedented government intervention in the energy markets to support high-cost generation will hurt customers by taking more money out of their pockets rather than letting people keep more of what they earn,” said Todd Snitchler of the American Petroleum Institute, the top lobbying group for the oil and gas industry................................


Michael Panfil, director of federal energy policy for the Environmental Defense Fund, called Trump’s directive “an unprecedented, illegal government handout” to the coal and nuclear industries and vowed to fight the order in court.

“Americans should not have to pay for dirty, uneconomic coal plants that pollute our environment and make people sick — especially when there are cleaner, more affordable energy options available,” Panfil said...
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SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
15. Your post said it all...this is a gross distortion of the marketplace which ...
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:45 AM
Jun 2018

has been shifting away from dirty fuels to clean and abundant energy sources. I'd like to think that we're already too far in the pipeline for solar and wind to back out now. Putting new coal and/or nuclear power plants in place will take years and years, and each state's public utility commissions will have an awful lot to say about this since they regulate this area (not the feds, being that states within their borders regulate these industries.

Some states have regulations that mandate a certain % of solar and/or wind to be purchased by utilities in that state, e.g. Missouri has such an agreement in place.

Thus, RUMP can bluster all he wants, but it's going to take years and years, and run counter to what the marketplace is dictating, and also will run up against states' rights.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
20. Sure..slow down the
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 08:05 PM
Jun 2018

stampede to find better sources of energy. Doubtful
anyone will apply for nuke construction licenses or
open up a new strip pit..

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