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appalachiablue

(41,136 posts)
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:39 AM Jun 2018

California Bans Travel To Another State Based On Its 'Discriminatory' LGBT Adoption Law

Source: USA Today

Add Oklahoma to the list of states to which California is banning state-funded and state-sponsored travel.
California Attorney General Xavier Becerra announced Friday that as a result of "discriminatory legislation" that became Oklahoma law last month, the western state will prohibit travel to its midwestern counterpart.

A 2017 California law requires that its attorney general keeps a list of states subject to a state travel ban because of "laws that authorize or require discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression," Becerra's office said in a statement.
"California taxpayers are taking a stand against bigotry and in support of those who would be harmed by this prejudiced policy." he said.

Oklahoma becomes the ninth state subject to the state-funded ban. Travel to Alabama, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee and Texas had previously been prohibited due to the 2017 law.
More: Citing LGBT discrimination, California bans state travel to Kentucky and three other states

In May, Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin signed a bill that allows private adoption agencies to deny same-sex couples from their adoption services on the basis of "religious or moral convictions or policies." The bill sparked backlash from LGBTQ advocates...More..

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- California Attorney General Xavier Becerra
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California Bans Travel To Another State Based On Its 'Discriminatory' LGBT Adoption Law (Original Post) appalachiablue Jun 2018 OP
Not one California tax payer money in a red state kimbutgar Jun 2018 #1
The ban is understandable, a principled stance against bigotry & discrimination. appalachiablue Jun 2018 #2
Thanks Christian conservatives! Initech Jun 2018 #3
Why would Cali have "state-funded and state-sponsored travel" anyway. Why would they pay to go to The Wielding Truth Jun 2018 #4
There are professional organizations of state greymattermom Jun 2018 #5
Professors at state universities greymattermom Jun 2018 #6
That seems like a perk and should be used in a decriminary manner. I think it is reasonable to The Wielding Truth Jun 2018 #8
Would the travel ban apply to athletic teams? Quemado Jun 2018 #7
I'd imagine athletic competitions are exempt. Jedi Guy Jun 2018 #10
Yes; no different from academic conferences Crash2Parties Jun 2018 #13
So much for principle MichMan Jun 2018 #16
Probably a few academic conferences a year. a la izquierda Jun 2018 #20
Wish all Blue states would do the same! 🌊🌊🌊 #FlipItBlue #BlueWave2018 #VoteThemOUT #TrumpCorrup riversedge Jun 2018 #9
Totally against this. Cold War Spook Jun 2018 #11
Californians can travel anywhere they want Retrograde Jun 2018 #12
How, exactly, is this a move "against the Constitution" please? Crash2Parties Jun 2018 #14
I am not a lawyer, Cold War Spook Jun 2018 #15
You are just wrong. FUGAMC Jun 2018 #17
Go tell Oklahoma to stop being un-American rockfordfile Jun 2018 #18
They aren't banning travel; residents (and non-res) are still free to travel to any state they wish. Crash2Parties Jun 2018 #19

kimbutgar

(21,155 posts)
1. Not one California tax payer money in a red state
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:45 AM
Jun 2018

I’m ok with tbat. These states are keeping us from advancing into the future.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
5. There are professional organizations of state
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:05 AM
Jun 2018

governors, legal folks, teachers, you name it. People get together to share what worked and didn't in their states.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
6. Professors at state universities
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:06 AM
Jun 2018

travel to conferences. When I was a professor at a red state, there were specific rules for travel on state funds.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
8. That seems like a perk and should be used in a decriminary manner. I think it is reasonable to
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:16 AM
Jun 2018

make trips, paid for by state funds, follow reasonable guidelines.

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
7. Would the travel ban apply to athletic teams?
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:15 AM
Jun 2018

Example: UCLA, a state-funded university, wants to send their women's softball team to the Women's College World Series, which is played in Oklahoma City every year (I believe). Would that travel be banned?

Jedi Guy

(3,191 posts)
10. I'd imagine athletic competitions are exempt.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 09:25 AM
Jun 2018

For one, athletic competitions (and especially tournament victories) elevate the university's standing and, more importantly, bring in lots of money. Schools make tons of money on athletics, particularly since they don't pay their athletes. So from a purely practical standpoint, you want your universities to be able to compete and win on a national stage.

For another, keeping student athletes from competing because of a law they had nothing to do with (and probably don't agree with anyway) is very unfair to them. Whether they love the game or hope to go pro, student athletes shouldn't be barred from competing because of a bass-ackwards law in another state. Doing otherwise is punishing the innocent, in my view.

The second bit, of course, is just my opinion. I imagine the universities care less about the latter and more about the former.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
13. Yes; no different from academic conferences
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 04:02 PM
Jun 2018

In both cases - but especially athletics - the schools have said that they have other funding they are using.

MichMan

(11,932 posts)
16. So much for principle
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:22 PM
Jun 2018

Can't do anything to athletics that might hurt revenues

How many conferences etc. are usually held in Oklahoma anyway?

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
20. Probably a few academic conferences a year.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 06:32 AM
Jun 2018

I have colleagues from California that are hamstrung when big academic conferences are held in these kinds of places. But they support it and so do I. I went to grad school in Oklahoma but I only go back to visit if it's really, really important. I don't want to spend money there.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
11. Totally against this.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:21 PM
Jun 2018

This is The United States of America. What would be the next move against the Constitution? Tariffs between states?

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
12. Californians can travel anywhere they want
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jun 2018

on their own dime. The ban applies only to travel funded by the state, i.e., with taxpayer money.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
14. How, exactly, is this a move "against the Constitution" please?
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 04:06 PM
Jun 2018

For your convenience, here's the text of the travel ban law itself:
https://oag.ca.gov/ab1887

Please point out the parts that violate the Federal Constitution, I'm sure the California Legislature & Attorney General could use your legal expertise.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
15. I am not a lawyer,
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jun 2018

but if the state does not send an employee to a banned state and in doing so the residents of their state lose benefits that they can only get from one of those banned states. Our states are too interwoven to start this. If this is allowed what will states be allowed to ban travel by employees for any reason they want.

 

FUGAMC

(13 posts)
17. You are just wrong.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:29 PM
Jun 2018

A ban on private travel would be unconstitutional. The State can ban official State travel without violating the Constitution. This is nothing new. https://www.hrc.org/blog/new-york-governor-cuomo-reaffirms-ban-on-official-travel-to-north-carolina; http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-state-workers-banned-visiting-mississippi-article-1.2589757

I’d be happy if all the blues states banned official travel to Dumbfuckistan.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
19. They aren't banning travel; residents (and non-res) are still free to travel to any state they wish.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:37 PM
Jun 2018

The state however is not willing to pay for state employees, on official state business, to travel to states that discriminate. Our government is making a choice that our employees won't go to those states for those functions *on the state's dime*.

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