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Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 02:59 PM Jun 2018

NASA's Mars Curiosity rover finds building blocks for life

Source: Houston Chronicle

Martian geologist Kirsten Siebach has always been skeptical about NASA's chances of finding life on the Red Planet, but two recent discoveries by the Curiosity rover have made her hopeful.

"Even if life existed [on Mars], we have way better resources of finding ancient life on Earth and it's still hard to find," said Siebach, a Rice professor and scientists working in the Mars Science Laboratory at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. "But we know that it can now be found."

Those discoveries, announced this afternoon by NASA, show that Mars is not dead despite previous hypotheses and that signs of ancient life can be preserved. They join a now-extensive list of findings that hint at life on the Red Planet made by Curiosity since it landed in August 2012.. .

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/space/article/NASA-s-Mars-Curiosity-rover-makes-new-discovery-12968501.php?cmpid=moengage



Amazing.
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NASA's Mars Curiosity rover finds building blocks for life (Original Post) Faygo Kid Jun 2018 OP
Cool......discovering 3 billion year old building blocks of organic life.... turbinetree Jun 2018 #1
Amazing it came six years into the mission exboyfil Jun 2018 #2
Some things just require lots of data for an extended period. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #12
Curiosity Rover Finds Ancient 'Building Blocks for Life' on Mars Judi Lynn Jun 2018 #3
The source of which not linked to life. Organic chemicals have been found everywhere in space Baclava Jun 2018 #4
"signs of ancient life" jberryhill Jun 2018 #5
NASA's Curiosity rover discovers that methane on Mars changes with the seasons Judi Lynn Jun 2018 #6
They're here already! You're next! mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2018 #7
Well if they do find anything, I hope they don't bring it where life already exists... sdfernando Jun 2018 #8
We should be spreading billions of our human seeds to the stars! Baclava Jun 2018 #9
Well, then...Time to start signing up the adolescent boys, I guess. MineralMan Jun 2018 #11
If I could shoot to the stars..???....???? sdfernando Jun 2018 #13
We should be mining the asteroids by now! Aren't u watching The Expanse? Baclava Jun 2018 #18
Well, I apologize in advance... Coventina Jun 2018 #10
There's a bigger concern the opposite direction. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #14
That is one of the reasons things like Curiosity sdfernando Jun 2018 #15
Yeah, NASA has a lot of people who worry about exocontamination. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #16
Dimethylsulfide is produced by marine microorganisms, salt marsh grasses and terrestrial plants jpak Jun 2018 #17

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
2. Amazing it came six years into the mission
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 03:04 PM
Jun 2018

Three times longer than planned because these durable little rovers really kick butt. Also you have to hand it to the scientists and engineers that keep them going by improvising work arounds to hardware and software issues. The fact that the solar panels have been kept clear enough during this time is truly amazing.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Some things just require lots of data for an extended period.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 03:51 PM
Jun 2018

The methane seasonal variation is a great example.

The Voyager probes are another, now exploring interstellar space, decades after their launch.

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
3. Curiosity Rover Finds Ancient 'Building Blocks for Life' on Mars
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 03:08 PM
Jun 2018

By Mike Wall, Space.com Senior Writer | June 7, 2018 02:01pm ET

If you're holding out hope that Mars may have once been an inhabited world, two new studies should put a little spring in your step.

NASA's Mars rover Curiosity has identified a variety of organic molecules, the carbon-based building blocks of life as we know it, in 3.5-billion-year-old Red Planet rocks, one of the papers reports.

"These results do not give us any evidence of life," stressed study lead author Jennifer Eigenbrode, a scientist at the Solar System Exploration Division at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. [The Search for Life on Mars: A Photo Timeline]

"But there is a possibility that [the organics] are from an ancient life source; we just don't know," Eigenbrode told Space.com. "And even if life was never around, they [the molecules] tell us there was at least something around for organisms to eat."

More:
https://www.space.com/40819-mars-methane-organics-curiosity-rover.html
 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
4. The source of which not linked to life. Organic chemicals have been found everywhere in space
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 03:15 PM
Jun 2018

Astronomers discover complex organic matter exists throughout the universe

Astronomers report in the journal Nature that organic compounds of unexpected complexity exist throughout the Universe. The results suggest that complex organic compounds are not the sole domain of life but can be made naturally by stars.

Not only are stars producing this complex organic matter, they are also ejecting it into the general interstellar space, the region between stars.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111026143721.htm

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. "signs of ancient life"
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jun 2018

Well, duh, of course.

That's why they got all them pyramids and statues and stuff on Mars:









I thought they had some news of some kind. We've known about these signs of ancient life for YEARS!

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
6. NASA's Curiosity rover discovers that methane on Mars changes with the seasons
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jun 2018

‘There’s been lots of excitement. Could this methane be produced biologically? Could it be produced by subsurface microbes?’
By Alessandra Potenza@ale_potenza Jun 7, 2018, 2:00pm EDT

NASA’s Curiosity rover has detected background levels of methane in the atmosphere of Mars, and these concentrations seem to go up in the summer and down in the winter, according to new research. Where the methane is coming from is still a mystery, but scientists have some ideas, including that microbes may be the source of the gas.

Researchers at NASA and other US universities analyzed five years’ worth of methane measurements Curiosity took at Gale Crater, where the rover landed in 2012. Curiosity detected background levels of methane of about 0.4 parts per billion, which is a tiny amount. (In comparison, Earth’s atmosphere has about 1,800 parts per billion of methane.) Those levels of methane, however, were found to range from 0.2 to about 0.7 parts per billion, with concentrations peaking near the end of the summer in the northern hemisphere, according to a study published today in Science. This seasonal cycle repeated through time and could come from an underground reservoir of methane, the study says. Whether that reservoir is a sign that there is or was life on Mars, however, is impossible to say for now.

Methane had been detected before on the Red Planet, but the measurements were all over the place. In 2003, for instance, telescopes from Earth mapped plumes of methane of about 45 parts per billion on Mars. Other measurements were taken by spacecraft orbiting the planet. And then in 2013 and 2014, Curiosity detected plumes of methane of 7 parts per billion. Today’s study is the first one to show that methane in the Martian air seems to follow a pattern: it has a seasonal cycle, and it’s not just random. That is key for finally understanding where this methane is coming from, and whether it’s a sign that there’s life on our neighboring planet.

“Most humans, as we crawled down from trees, have wondered about, ‘Are we alone? Are we the only life form?’” says Mike Mumma, a planetary scientist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, who’s studied methane on Mars and was not part of today’s research. “If we can identify whether on Mars this methane has originated from life, that would be one way of answering that question.”

More:
https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/7/17434718/nasa-curiosity-rover-mars-methane-seasonal-cycle-microbes-life

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
8. Well if they do find anything, I hope they don't bring it where life already exists...
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 03:40 PM
Jun 2018

It may destroy such life in favor of its new matrix.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
9. We should be spreading billions of our human seeds to the stars!
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 03:48 PM
Jun 2018

Just like our alien overlord creators commanded.


yea verily


All your worlds are belong to us

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
11. Well, then...Time to start signing up the adolescent boys, I guess.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 03:51 PM
Jun 2018

They're an unending, never-failing resource of human seed...

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
18. We should be mining the asteroids by now! Aren't u watching The Expanse?
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jun 2018

The Belters are the wave of the future

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
10. Well, I apologize in advance...
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 03:50 PM
Jun 2018

I think I might have release a sentient hummus-based life-form into the sewers this morning.

Hopefully, they'll be vegetarians....

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. There's a bigger concern the opposite direction.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 04:03 PM
Jun 2018

If we contaminate worlds that might have their own life, it becomes vastly more difficult to prove that the life we find out there isn't us.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
15. That is one of the reasons things like Curiosity
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 04:06 PM
Jun 2018

are assembled in clean rooms......Oh dog!! I just had a horrible thought....Pence placed his hand on one of those things and contaminated it. I can't imagine a world full of Pences! UGH!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
16. Yeah, NASA has a lot of people who worry about exocontamination.
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 04:09 PM
Jun 2018

And the rest of us worry about RePutin contamination.

jpak

(41,758 posts)
17. Dimethylsulfide is produced by marine microorganisms, salt marsh grasses and terrestrial plants
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 06:35 PM
Jun 2018

here on Earth.

It's the "smell of the ocean" and newly mowed lawns

It's major source of organic carbon for marine prokaryotes that dominate life in the ocean.

These are NOT building blocks - they are metabolic products released from living organisms.

Methanethiol is a (photo)degradation product of dimethylsulfide and is deposited in glacial ice.

It's use as a proxy to track ancient variations in marine photosynthesis (primary production) in glacial ice cores.

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