Warren Says Democrats Lack Guts to Take on 'Billionaire Class'

[brooklynite]

Source: Roll Call

Sen. Elizabeth Warren criticized fellow Democrats who voted for interests of the “billionaire class” over those of most Americans.

“Until we have all of the Democrats who are willing to take on the billionaire class, until we have all of the Democrats who are willing to fight for the American people and not for a handful of billionaires and giant corporations, then it’s going to stay an uphill fight,” she said on The Intercept’s Mehdi Hasan’s “Deconstructed” podcast released Friday.

Hasan asked if Warren agreed with Sen. Bernie Sanders’ assertion that most Democrats don’t have the “guts” to take on Wall Street.

“Yeah,” she said.



Read more: http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/warren-says-democrats-lack-guts-to-take-on-billionaire-class

[Lucky Luciano]

1. Incoming!!!!

[olegramps]

20. Isn' it a problem that we have far too many Third Way Democrats in office?

The solid union supporting no nonsense Democrats are few and far between. It appears to me that the Democrats have compromised themselves to such an extent that we really don't have representatives that will die fighting before selling the working class down the river of no return. Their main concern is getting reelected and every bill is measured on that basis alone. How will this hurt or help me and the consequences are just what we have today.

[Demsrule86]

52. That is incorrect.

No it isn't the problem. We have no power...thanks to a disloyal electorate who didn't vote for the Democratic nominee in 16 and others Democrats. Even great liberals like Feingold lost so spare me the BS. We live in a center left country...even f'ing Mass where Warren comes from has a Republicans governor who is quite popular. If you look at the 50 states, you can easily see a 60 vote majority in the Senate is impossible without moderate to conservative Dems.

[Uncle Joe]

101. "disloyal electorate"

Should the people be loyal to the party or should the party be loyal to the people?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of ...

[Demsrule86]

110. Yes, people who care about progressive policy should be loyal to the party... those who did not

vote for the Democratic nominee have hurt the progressive movement so badly, it will take years to recover if ever...you had a chance for single payer or medicare for all now or some form of universal coverage ... now not so much. And the courts, well we have seen the cost with the new 'Gays not allowed' signs popping up on businesses after the recent court ruling in favor of the bigoted baker. We will be damned lucky if the courts don't recriminalize homosexuality. DACA folks are being deported often to their deaths. Kids ripped from their parents and literally caged...the list is endless and heartbreaking. Thus I have no respect for those who allowed Trump to win by not supporting the only candidate who could stop him...Hillary Clinton.

[olegramps]

120. Firsly, I campaigned and walked the district for Hilary. Not to easy at 81.

Let's start with the definition of the Third Way. The Third Way is a position akin to centrism that tries to reconcile right-wing and left-wing politics by advocating a varying synthesis of centre-right economic and centre-left social policies.[1][2] The Third Way was created as a re-evaluation of political policies within various centre-left progressive movements in response to doubt regarding the economic viability of the state and the overuse of economic interventionist policies that had previously been popularized by Keynesianism but at that time contrasted with the rise of popularity for economic liberalism and the New Right.[3] The Third Way is promoted by some social democratic and social liberal movements.[4]



Many of don't appreciate being lectured about party loyalty. The support of Democratic candidates is what many of us who have been friends have been doing for over 60 years. I stand by the fact that many Democratic candidates only interest in the unions was to pop in and collect a check. The rank and file members felt that they were abandoned. I would have loved to see one of the union leaders run for higher office. Unfortunately, that increasingly Democrats felt they were forced to support conservative issues in order to gain the backing they needed to be elected.

[guillaumeb]

126. Well said. Nothing to add to that. eom

[LanternWaste]

129. I don't think the practice of one necessarily denies the practice of the other.

As the one is merely a distillation of the other.

[Uncle Joe]

131. But it does, isn't that why we trash Republican voters for supporting a party

that ignores their needs?

It's the political parties that are supposed to represent the electorate, not the other way around.

[mcar]

96. Is this a joke?

Third Way? Really? What year is this?

[Kilgore]

109. This should be fun to watch

[sandensea]

2. To be fair, it's not easy in the least.

Not until we can get big money out of politics anyway.

If billionaires want to contribute to their candidates of choice, tell'em to hold a bake sale.

[DBoon]

3. I agree as well

and i will ALWAYS vote for a Democrat over any other candidate

We need to truly represent the average American in order to defeat the fake populism of Trump Republicans

[Wwcd]

4. Hey Warren! Did you bother to Read Hillary's Platform on that exact subject?

Really?
Because another screeched it first doesn't negate her precisely penned policy on that same subject.

She had it already there on paper before she announced her run for President.

WTF. Thanks for your wholehearted endorsement anyway.

You are not helping, btw.

My god.

[DonCoquixote]

6. Hillary said that

because Warren was saying it first and louder.
and before you say thous shalt not criticize democrats, I would say, why did YOU slam Democrat Warren, who is a fly in trump's fur.

[KPN]

9. Thank you.

[Wwcd]

12. Hillary said it before Sanders also.

Hillary is the Democrat. Sanders is not.

Warren should stand by the Democrats that did all they could rather than stand with the guy that used the Dems for "Money & Media".

I take issue with Warren's blanket statement of "Democrats".
All Democrats, Sen Warren? A few? A couple?
That is the LIE in the quote.

There ARE INDEED MANY DEMS who are well in line with Warren as to billionares.

Then Fking NAME THEM, not their entire Party while playing a political game for Sanders. He gets no harder pat on the back than the rest of the DEMOCRATS that follow Warren on this issue.

He is not the first, the only nor the last to fight for an end to this problem.

[angrychair]

18. We need to do more

Democrats need to stop making “deals” with Republicans. Stop compromising our expressed core values of our Party planks
Like giving power back to banks to bankrupt our country again:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b188c89e4b09578259ed910/amp

Like making deals to sacrifice DREAMers for CHIP only to have the House vote to clawback 8 billion dollars from the CHIP program just months later.

My signature line says it clearly but I would modify it to add all republicans, without exception, as well:
Trump (and republicans) is a narcissistic, racist, bigoted and xenophobic fascist. We must all be united in our fight against his (their) agenda because we will all be a victim of it.

My old signature line is also still appropriate:
Compromise is great as long as you are not the one being compromised

[Demsrule86]

50. There was no deal to sacrifice anyone...we simply don't have the power to stop them...blame

the fucking Stein voters...and shutting down the government would cause us to lose the mid term which would be devastating.

[mountain grammy]

22. Yes, thank you!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

77. Excellent point!!

[treestar]

122. She's slamming them

and sounding just like Bernie. Not helping.

[LanternWaste]

130. The ever popular post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy.

"Hillary said that because Warren was saying it first and louder."

The ever popular post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy, most often used instead of evidence.

[Ferrets are Cool]

7. Really? The loudest voice We The People have

and you are going to dis her? What is wrong with repeating a good idea? It needs to be driven into our heads. The RICH are not on our side.

[Wwcd]

15. She just dissed all the Dems who completely agree with her.

That is the LIE in her statement that deserves to be called out.

[mountain grammy]

24. No, you should be "called out"

She did no such thing. “Most” Democrats was the question. Please read the whole post.

[Wwcd]

31. No, the Headline should be called out. Perhaps Warren should callout the deceptive Headline

"Money & Media"
Why we are in the shithole we're in.

[mountain grammy]

68. Read more than the headline

[Wwcd]

70. Its the HEADLINE that is the Lie.

THAT is the deception that feeds the constant division.
BIG BOLD LETTERS...That's what this whole argument centers on. It is, once again, Billionaire Media choosing the political biased sensational message of that BIG BOLD HEADLINE.

Is Warren ok with this?
That's my question.

It damns the Entire Democratic Party.
The Party Warren Represents.

She needs to publically condemn the Headline & the writer who put it there in BIG BOLD WORDS.

[Cha]

116. Warren Says Democrats Lack Guts to Take on 'Billionaire Class'

It's the fucking HEADLINE that is BullShit.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

92. Of course, Elizabeth did no such thing and neither did Bernie, with whom she was agreeing...

Anything to bash Bernie and now, by extension, Elizabeth. They would make a great duo (in any order)...

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!

[progressoid]

30. That's clearly NOT what she said.

She said, "Until we have all of the Democrats who are willing to take on the billionaire class,"...

Meaning we already have Democrats willing to take on the billionaire class but not "all" of us are.

[Ferrets are Cool]

66. Thank you for being the sane voice. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

93. Clearly not, you're right, but Elizabeth was agreeing with Bernie...

so, of course, she needs to be bashed!!

[progressoid]

98. Yup.

Anyone agreeing with Bernie is the enemy!1!!1

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

104. Don't understand the cognitive dissonance when it comes to Bernie.

[melman]

111. Yes

But in this case I think it's more than that. It's not just who is saying these things, it's that these things are being said at all.

There's quite a bit of 'leave the billionaires alone' sentiment around these days. Watch what happens when anyone dares to criticize Jeff Bezos.

[jalan48]

10. I think she's talking about Democrats in office now and some who voted to loosen financial regs.

From the article.

"Warren was also not chosen to become Hillary Clinton’s running mate in 2016. Clinton instead chose Sen. Tim Kaine, who also voted for the bill loosening Dodd-Frank regulations."

[Demsrule86]

49. It is an election year...and I looked at what was done...it is still mostly intact which is a

miracle since we have no power.

[questionseverything]

62. kaine was a huge mistake...brought no votes to the ticket

it would of been much harder for the repubs to steal if hc had named a popular dem as her running mate...warren,bernie or biden could of made the difference

[appalachiablue]

76. +1 Yes, Biden could have done it. What a huge, lethal blunder.

And I like Tim Kaine, met him and his wife at the governor's mansion inaugural in Richmond.

[jalan48]

89. I agree. I never understood Kaine and especially now with him voting for the big banks.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

113. Don't think Joe would've accepted 2nd fiddle again... but Bernie or Elizabeth?

No question!!!

[Dorn]

17. Was the the public position, or the private position?

[KayF]

118. of course she did

since Warren is not a phony, of course she did

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262307-warren-backs-clintons-wall-street-call

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is backing Hillary Clinton's call to block Republicans’ efforts to chip away at banking reform, giving the Democratic front-runner a rare nod from an important influencer on progressive voters.

The Massachusetts senator signaled her support through her political social media channels, which hadn't been touched in at least a week.

"Secretary Clinton is right to fight back against Republicans trying to sneak Wall Street giveaways into the must-pass government funding bill," she wrote on Facebook.

"Whether it's attacking the [Consumer Financial Protection Bureau], undermining new rules to rein in unscrupulous retirement advisers, or rolling back any part of the hard-fought progress we've made on financial reform, she and I agree."

The praise comes in response to Clinton's Monday New York Times op-ed in which she called on all Democrats to stop Republican-led efforts to loosen requirements prompted by the Dodd-Frank Act, passed in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis.

[CanSocDem]

5. The rest of the world wishes you would. n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

78. Bernie has the guts... oh, but I forgot, Bernie's not a Democrat... that splains it!

[Power 2 the People]

8. Spoken like a true Democrat!

Warren 2020!

[Wwcd]

13. She should stop Broadbrushing ALL DEMOCRATS in this case,

with a pitiful slam against the ENTIRE PARTY.

THAT IS THE LIE IN THE STATEMENT.

[murielm99]

34. You should be getting more support here.

I am sorry that you are not. Maybe many of the people who agree with you are just getting worn down and tired out trying to defend our party. They stop coming in here and allow the naysayers to take over DU.

Warren does not need to insult our party. DU members who agree with you should let you know that they do.

[mcar]

99. I agree

This is yet another DU bash Democrats fest. It does get tiring.

[whathehell]

117. Agreed

Warren 2020.

[KPN]

11. More Democrats do need to be up front and straight-forward about this. Kudos Senator Warren

for having the courage.

[Wwcd]

14. Then she should have said that. She didn't. She said "DEMOCRATS""

She named the Entire Party. Including those Dems who agree completely with her.

She should be more careful.

[KPN]

21. No she didn't. She said

"Until we have all of the Democrats ..." which implies some already are.

[Wwcd]

33. That's not what the Headline screams. Perhaps Warren should demand a clarification rather than the

Sensationalism used in their header.

Might be interesting to note who authored the Headline & why

She needs to be as committed to calling out the press as she is to her cause, when they inject their sensationalism for political reasons into her spoken words.

Once again a little late for a mea culpa from the media vying for relevance..

Could they have began with the truth?
Nope, appears they chose political sensationalism.

I want to hear Warren call them out.
I want to hear her stand for her own message over the media's meddling.

We cannot allow the Media to do what they did in 2016.
Fking fix this shit.

[KPN]

37. They all -- every one of them -- should be calling the

media out. Not just Warren.

[Wwcd]

40. These were Warren's words that were turned into political sensationalism

She indeed should be calling out THIS press writer's headline.

I am referring to this OP.

And yes. Everyone's statement that is rewritten to mislead or used for political or personal bias should demand a clarification & make enough noise about it until the press stops screwing with the Truth.

Money & Media, is as big a threat as the 'billionaire class.'
They ARE the billionaire class. Stop right here & call them out as an obvious example.

Stand up ever time they pull the same bs that gave us this disaster.
Money & Media & their 24/7 anti-Democratic messaging.

That is the Democratic thing to do.
Stop giving them a pass.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

79. Yes & while you're at it, might as well bash Bernie too for not callin out this writer's headline.

[TheCowsCameHome]

16. Quick, somebody alert on her.

She tells it like it is. (That woman is the best)

[mountain grammy]

25. No kidding.

[QC]

32. But she's a meanie!!!!!

[Demsrule86]

55. Yeah well perhaps you enjoy bashing the only party that can stop Trump ET AL but I don't...and you

take such pleasure in it? However, I do not. If quoted correctly, her word were unwise to say the least.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

81. Love Elizabeth... so refreshing, much like Bernie. Could make a great team...

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!

[BeyondGeography]

128. Why is she BASHING Democrats!

Maybe I’ll text Warren the next time I want to post something hide-worthy.

[zentrum]

19. Lizabeth Warren Speaks for me.

Run, Elizabeth, Run! 2020.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

82. So hoping Elizabeth changes her mind about running in 2020. Her and Bernie

would be unstoppable together as Prez and VP, in either order...

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!

[DownriverDem]

23. Huge lift

Those billionaires are also the reason why the Dems are not on MSM talking about our issues. They only get to come on to talk about trump or whatever the corps tell them they can discuss.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

106. Why all of our candidates need to follow Bernie's lead and swear off taking dirty corporate cash.

[murielm99]

35. Yes she is.

I am sorry you cannot take it seriously.

[Wwcd]

44. She should be espousing the Sensationalistic Billionaire Class Media

that just rearranged her own words to attack her own Party in their sensationally politically biased Headline.

Money & Media. They ARE the same billionaire class she railes against for truthfulness.
So hold them accountable. Clean them ALL up.

She is so right about this cause, but loses me if she allows the billionaire Media to use her words as they clearly did.
Speak to that Sen Warren.
Call them out!

Dang.

[MadDAsHell]

29. Elizabeth Warren is violating DU's TOS. nt

[Magoo48]

39. I've been dinged for saying the same kind of thing, more than once....

[Devil Child]

36. Thank you Sen. Warren for saying what needs to be said

[Demsrule86]

48. I am sure Trump will sent his thanks too because that is who comment bashing Democrats help.

[Devil Child]

65. Trump is best assisted by head in the sand dismissal of all valid criticism as "bashing"

[Wwcd]

67. Sooo, billionaire Media is ok?...this is getting confusing.

Think I'll send her an email asking for clarification.

Seriously.

I'd like to know where the billionaire line gets drawn.
Cuz right now, I'm not so sure.

Never hurts to ask.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

80. Sounds like Bernie and Elizabeth are on the same page...

Hmmmm?

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!

[Devil Child]

85. I like the sound of that pairing

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

86. Yes, I wouldn't even mind the order... whoever comes out on top in the primary is fine by me!

[Gore1FL]

38. She is simply observing what is obvious from the evidence.

We haven't had a presidential nominee since Mondale who ran against Reaganomics. Even under Clinton and Obama we couldn't get the top rate to even 40%.

Those arguing about the semantics of the "all" vs "some" implications, let's me spell it out more clearly: We, as a party, have done little to undo the damage of the Reagan revolution and we had more than one chance to try.

[Wwcd]

42. Voting during Obama's midterms would have given the Dems leverage to do more than fight against GOP.

Where were all these people claiming the Dems don't do anything when it came time to step up for us?.
Its on the lazy voters who gave NO ASSIST when the Dems under Pres Obama needed it in the midterms.

Its not the Dems fault when the chance to strengthen their power in the House & Senate is in front of the faces of the voters & they do nothing.

The big blame game goes to the lazy voters, Not the Democrats who sat and waited for some assist.

Voters dropped the ball that Pres Obama needed.

Yet they now piss & moan about the Party.

Its not on the Dems, it lands squarely on the voters who didn't give a shit when they had the opportunity.

[Gore1FL]

51. That would be another example of how Democrats failed, wouldn't it?

Unless you consider failed GOTV efforts to not be a failure.

[Wwcd]

57. Bs. Its on the voters who comfortably took the good they were given

for granted.
That's everyone who benefitted from Pres Obama..yet here they are condemning the only Party that could have brought more to the table.

Lazy voters who took it all for granted dropped the ball. Including those who piss & moan the Party today. Its on All of You.

[Gore1FL]

59. If no one buys your product, it must be the customer's fault.

makes total sense...

[Wwcd]

63. Well judging by Tuesday's primary elections your statement confirms that The Dem Party

is what the majority is buying.

It is the bullshitters determined to undermine the Dem Party that lost.
"Money & Media" lost to the wise & sensible Democratic voters

The Dem Party is clearly proven to still be the truth & what this country majority wants.


Primaries are telling us whose product isn't being bought.

[Gore1FL]

73. I am glad the Dems have done what they need to energize voters.

They need to continue to do so. To suggest that the Democrats haven't done well enough in office or running for them isn't anti-Democratic Party. Honest self-assessment is how we grow.

Elizabeth Warren is correct.

[Wwcd]

75. Then some self assessment is perhaps necessary as to allowing

a Democrat's rally against the billionaires, to be rewritten as a political beatdown by the billionaire Media, used against her very own Party.

It truly leaves those Dems who support her wondering wtf is she doing.

The writer of that politcally biased headline has to be called out by Her or her message is left in question.
SHE has to make this right for all those Dems who support her, & for all her Dem collegues.

That is the assessment that is perhaps necessary.

[Gore1FL]

83. I support her. I don't wonder. She is giving an honest self-assessment.

If she would have run in 2016, she would have been my first choice. Instead we went the "safe" route pretended that we couldn't lose and then lost as what seems usual.

Not discussing obvious shortcomings or otherwise pretending they don't exist is sort of how we managed to stick with Reaganomics for almost 5 decades.

[treestar]

123. It's not a product!

It is self government. We have the right to do it, given by the Founders' system. You don't approach it like a product. If you do, you trivialize it.

[Gore1FL]

124. It's totally a brand.

I agree, we have to do it right. Part of that is getting elected. Part of that is reaching out to people. You may think that shouldn't be necessary. I probably shouldn't. "Shouldn't" and "isn't" are different words, however. We need to focus on the situation as it is, not what we wish the situation was.

[treestar]

125. We need to encourage people to take it seriously

Not just cave in to the thoughtlessness of people.

[Gore1FL]

127. That is a great thing for the list. Right now we have to put out a tire fire. nt

[mcar]

100. Yes +1000%!

[Demsrule86]

47. Do you remember what happened to Mondale? Americans want regulation and higher wagers. But most

believe in capitalism and taking on anyone will get us voted or not voted in. We should talk about policies...like fair taxation, health care etc. Ms. Warren will not get my vote in 2020 primary should she run...when the Dems have no power go after Repubs not Dems.

[Wwcd]

54. Thank you. That is exactly the truth.

This politically loaded Headline needs to be called out.
You cannot raile against one part of the billionare class while benefitting from another of the same.

We know damned well what was printed.
Step up & condemn it Sen Warren.
Support your Democratic Party ffs.

[Gore1FL]

58. She conceded that Democrats don;t run ran against Reaganomics in that "exactly the truth" post.

That would be another failure--at least when it came to the non-billionaire citizens.

[Wwcd]

60. Bs on that because you are blaming the Entire Dem Party

with that broadbrush statement & it is false.

[Gore1FL]

71. No I am not. Neither is Warren.

Nonetheless the Democrats can do better. To argue against that does nothing but help perpetuate our losses.

[Wwcd]

72. To argue against the Democratic Party perpetuates our loss.

To allow the billionaire media to go unchecked when they misused her statements about railing against the billionaires perpetuates our loss, also.

[Gore1FL]

74. Doing the right thing is what will make us win.

Keeping GOP policies and not improving the lives of middle-class America is what perpetuates our loss.

Pretending that we do the right thing when we aren't is what perpetuates our loss.

It's not about teams. It's about having the right policies.

[Gore1FL]

56. Yes. It was my first election

Mondale let Reagan define him at the first debate and it was downhill from there. Every election since then, with the exception of 2008 and 2016, the Democrats have gone with the "safe" choice that tries to get votes between the 40 yard lines. This moves the party to the right and we mostly lose.

I am old enough to remember when the Democrats stood for something other than "We are Republican Lite!" Those were good times for the party and the country.

After 40 years of embracing trickle-down, maybe the democrats can return the ideas they had that worked in the 30s, the 40s, the 50s, the 60s, and not be afraid to point out that what we have now doesn't and hasn't ever worked.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

87. Leave it to Bernie... he'll get the job done!

[Gore1FL]

102. Perhaps. Bernie was my 2nd choice after Warren in 2016.

I honesty hope we have a broad field to choose from. While I like Warren and Sanders, I am kind of hoping to hear a lot of voices in 2020.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

103. Yes, everyone's welcome... and while I'm preferential to Bernie and Elizabeth...

I'm open-minded and willing to look at other potential candidates.

[duforsure]

41. Going after them for corruption will bring them all down.

None of them are clean.

[shanny]

43. She's right. eom

[Demsrule86]

45. Well if she runs in the 2020 primary, she won't get my vote.

[joshcryer]

46. How's that medical device tax exception working out for pharma, Mrs. Warren?

[Wwcd]

64. K & R your post.

Chirp..

[awesomerwb1]

53. Even if true.....

why the fuck being divisive? I don't see how this helps going into 2018.

Getting a bit tired of her and the other guy.

If you can't see that we need to keep the eyes on the prize (November), then I have to question your judgement.

Getting tired of this self serving divisive crap.

[Wwcd]

69. Post of the Day. Thank you.

I'll proudly campaign for a less divisive Democratic Party candidate.

Isn't the Media a billionaire class also?
I'm going to ask Warren to clear this up for the Democrats she just allowed to be rolled over by a politically biased Headline.

Wow. This sucks.

[Gore1FL]

84. I'd like to win November by not running as Republican lite.

That would be cool.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

88. Elizabeth is just shining the light of truth... bashing Elizabeth for that is more divisive than

anything she's saying.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

61. Right here right now...

I'd take her over dt and would personally carry her there, on c/foot. HRC had a chance to nominate her for VP. Would've been GREAT! Someone spoke up today. We're all human. Let's see if this is a pattern before we go off half cocked. President Cinton....please don't go too far from Wash D.C.. I'd gladly carry you too but, If I have to carry you girls...be a helper.
"She aint heavy, shes my PO-TUS..." Sung to the tune of..."He aint heavy."

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

90. Had Hillary picked Elizabeth or Bernie for VP, she'd be Madam President right now...

no doubt about it!! And the Dotard would be a distant memory, as would be his hideous pick for the Supreme Court, his complete undoing of Obama's legacy, his war on the middle class, etc. etc. I truly believe, however, that Elizabeth and/or Bernie can turn his traitorous shit-show.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

94. To me she is,

but, I agree w you 100%. 100%. Tim kaine? No shade to Tim but....WHAT??

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

105. I'll never understand the picking of Tim Kaine to be VP on the ticket.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

108. So many great great people.

Such a bad choice politically. Your VP doubles up your votes in popularity, not marginally.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

112. Agreed, though I do understand not wanting someone like Bernie or Elizabeth to steal the spotlight.

But, it's still better to win, isn't it?!

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

114. Absolutely.

Win. Then figure it out. It's really such a small thing if you put other peoples lives before your own. I could...NOT ...believe she picked Kaine.

[pecosbob]

91. Not going to say any names

but as long as the Democratic Party is taking money from payday lenders and the like, the whole country's screwed.

[Uncle Joe]

95. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread brooklynite

[mcar]

97. Warren disappoints

There surely is no need for slamming her fellow Democrats when we have a white supremacist sociopath in the White House.

Oh, and House Rs just voted to take healthcare away from children. Perhaps the good Senator should opine on that.

[Snackshack]

107. Very true.

However...standing on principle does not win elections. I wish politicians could say no to the class she named but they realistically can’t. There are examples of recent campaigns where small individual donations amounted to large sums of money but those are far and few between. The only way to fix the issue of money in politics is to repeal citizens united and pass campaign finance.

[Cha]

115. EW is talking about those Dems in Red States..

she wants them to start acting like Dems in Blue States.

But, the Fucking HEADLINE is BULLSHIT.

Al Sharpton says this.. this includes Bernie Sanders..

Donald Trump is on course to be re-elected in 2020 because those in the current crop of potential Democratic presidential candidates are “too tame to deal with an untamed opponent,” one of the party’s key power-brokers has said.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10704251

[samplegirl]

119. We all know the senators

Who are not on board! Need voted out long ago!

[treestar]

121. Drank Bernie Koolaid

That is so vague. What does it involve. And why bring out the old shibboleth about guts? Just propose a law, enough with the stupid insults.

[Orsino]

132. It's Citizens United's government. We just live under it.

I'm the first to excuse Democratic "inaction" when we won't give them majorities, but if Congress flips we are going to need some serious reregulation.

(For the Supreme Court to overturn.)

[TomCADem]

133. She Can Kiss My Democratic Ass

I am tired of getting attacked by folks I helped elect. I contributed to her campaign but if she is going to crap on me as a Democrat, then I will contribute to some other progressive who understands that Democrats are not the enemy.