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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:03 PM Jun 2018

Trump says he 'probably' will support bill to protect states that have legalized marijuana

Source: Portland Press Herald

President Trump said Friday that he is likely to support a bipartisan congressional effort to give states autonomy over their marijuana laws — a move that would put the White House in direct conflict with the Justice Department.

Trump was asked about a bill introduced Thursday by Sens. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) that would protect the nine states and D.C. that have legalized marijuana from any federal interference. This would allow businesses that sell marijuana to operate without fear of prosecution by the Justice Department.

Trump told reporters that he supports Gardner and is considering backing the bill.

“I know exactly what he’s doing,” Trump told reporters as he prepared to leave the White House on Friday to a Group of Seven economic summit in Canada. “We’re looking at it. But I probably will end up supporting that.”

Trump’s attorney general, Jeff Sessions, has long been an impassioned opponent of marijuana, and in January the Justice Department rescinded Obama administration guidance that instructed federal law enforcement not to waste resources targeting marijuana operations in states where they are legal.

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Read more: https://www.pressherald.com/2018/06/08/trump-says-he-probably-will-support-bill-to-protect-states-that-have-legalized-marijuana/



I bet he said this just to piss off Sessions...
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Trump says he 'probably' will support bill to protect states that have legalized marijuana (Original Post) jpak Jun 2018 OP
It's a losing issue for them The Mouth Jun 2018 #1
They only give a fuck about "State's Rights" when it concerns a "right" to discriminate Major Nikon Jun 2018 #7
Politicians and people in general only care about 'State's Rights' The Mouth Jun 2018 #15
"States' Rights" didn't become a rallying cry till the Civil Rights Era Major Nikon Jun 2018 #18
Yep. The Mouth Jun 2018 #19
That too didn't come into fashion until much later Major Nikon Jun 2018 #20
Michigan DownriverDem Jun 2018 #2
All he's doing here is sticking his thumb in Jeff Sessions' eye Still In Wisconsin Jun 2018 #3
Sounds like a Trump reason to me. Doesn't care how his actions affect others... C Moon Jun 2018 #5
For conservatives the smart play they have ignored is to back these cannabis state's rights issues TeamPooka Jun 2018 #4
He also said he would support raising the gun purchase age to 21 NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #6
"probably" "we'll see" C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #8
Exactly! He's shaking down the liquor, pharma, and tobacco. Dave Starsky Jun 2018 #23
We'll see... Maybe later... Wouldn't you like to know? Hekate Jun 2018 #9
My dad was the opposite, "We'll see" and "We'll think about it" usually meant he would LeftInTX Jun 2018 #16
Which means nothing, duforsure Jun 2018 #10
What ever comes out of his mouth is meaningless CanonRay Jun 2018 #11
He changes his mind ever other second. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #12
So now he locks down the Republicans who want to smoke pot legally vote... marble falls Jun 2018 #13
I think it's to remove motivation from some millennial voters. n/t Calista241 Jun 2018 #14
Ignore him... LeftInTX Jun 2018 #17
Isn't this already pointless since recreational weed is already legal in many states? ansible Jun 2018 #21
It's going to take more than this to steal the Filthy Hippie vote from the Democrats jmowreader Jun 2018 #22
Oh bullshit! hatrack Jun 2018 #24

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
1. It's a losing issue for them
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jun 2018

and even some pretty conservative Republicans realize it's a 'State's Rights' issue.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. They only give a fuck about "State's Rights" when it concerns a "right" to discriminate
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:34 PM
Jun 2018

If it puts them in a hypocritical position to say no and the bill passes, so much the better. Might as well use their fucked up ideology against them.

If this bill passes, it will be a tipping point for cannabis legalization. The remaining states will fall like dominoes.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
15. Politicians and people in general only care about 'State's Rights'
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jun 2018

When it's to the advantage of their ideological agenda, regardless of ideology.

Cuts both ways, although generally more in our favor than theirs, although they are too stupid to see that often. But sometimes the other way. Cannabis, reproductive choice, guns, marriage equality, all end up being effected by how one views where one views the 10th amendment (and which rights are implicit in the others) verses the 'General Welfare' clause.

Conservatives are quick as hell to leverage the power of the federal government to hammer states on cannabis, corporate personhood and anything else that suits their agenda and to hell with the 10th, we liberals are pretty quick to defend State's rights when it comes to cannabis, restricting the ownership of guns and the application of the Full Faith and Credit clause in regards to marriage equality. In general it tilts our way; as you say, best to use their own ideology against them. But one should be aware that the very same part of the constitution that requires a marriage in one state to be honored in every other state ('full faith and credit') can also come back on Democrats (not that YOU aren't aware, I mean the rhetorical 'one')

Here's hoping that, as a California resident in an area that will benefit greatly from full legalization, the Republicans actually do something right for once.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
18. "States' Rights" didn't become a rallying cry till the Civil Rights Era
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 05:19 PM
Jun 2018

It’s basically bigoted codespeak for “fuck you” to all protected classes after the Southern states tried unsuccessfully to repudiate federal Civil Rights laws.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
19. Yep.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 05:31 PM
Jun 2018

As you wisely said upthread: use their own evil against 'em. Although I'd also argue that 'State's Rights' became a post war excuse for the South's revolt as a deflection from slavery (utter bullshit, of course, look at any of the writings of the Southern leaders, it was ALL about owning slaves, but after they lost they claimed it was about SR). If they want to use 'States Rights', damnit, so can we. And enumerated Constitutional rights trump States Rights, so the arc of things will eventually bend somewhat towards us (I hope).

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
20. That too didn't come into fashion until much later
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 05:42 PM
Jun 2018

During the Civil Rights Era neo-confederates started the historical revisionism that the Civil War was really fought over “States’ Rights” and not slavery. The opposite is actually true. One of the justifications the Southern states used for secession was the Northern states’ right to free slaves from the South once they were inside their jurisdiction.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
2. Michigan
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jun 2018

Who would trust trump on anything he says? Michigan has legal medical marijuana. It was just approved that we will be voting on recreational marijuana in November. And thanks to Voters not Politicians we will get to vote on using a committee to draw district lines. Michigan is hugely gerrymandered. These two issues will motivate a lot of left leaning voters come November. So hoping we can make a change.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
3. All he's doing here is sticking his thumb in Jeff Sessions' eye
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:17 PM
Jun 2018

As the article says, Sessions has been on an anti-weed campaign his whole career. Therefore, Trump does this.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
5. Sounds like a Trump reason to me. Doesn't care how his actions affect others...
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jun 2018

only how they affect him, and/or if they get him his vengeance.

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
4. For conservatives the smart play they have ignored is to back these cannabis state's rights issues
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jun 2018

to help their arguments about abortion.
But they don't realize arguing against it weakens their argument for states rights anti abortion stuff.
They just cant' let their "we know best for you" judgemental attitude go.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
23. Exactly! He's shaking down the liquor, pharma, and tobacco.
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 12:02 AM
Jun 2018

He's basically into open protection rackets now.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
9. We'll see... Maybe later... Wouldn't you like to know?
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jun 2018

My Dad used to tell us kids, "I'll give it my thoughtful consideration." Took me years to figure out he meant the same thing as W. C. Fields' "Go away kid, ya bother me."

Trump is just a much nastier version of that.

LeftInTX

(25,371 posts)
16. My dad was the opposite, "We'll see" and "We'll think about it" usually meant he would
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 05:10 PM
Jun 2018

Usually there were some strings attached instead of a blanket, "Yes".

"Think about it" usually meant drawing up a plan with both parties involved (Kids and parents)

I had a good father...

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
10. Which means nothing,
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 02:08 PM
Jun 2018

He said lots of positive things about the DACA kids to, so this is just another scam. He'll demand something , probably something bad for everyone except himself. This could be just another PR campaign to gain support when Mueller exposes him, and for votes. His words can't be trusted for anything. Let him sign the Senators bill then. He won't. Just another ploy .

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
12. He changes his mind ever other second.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 02:43 PM
Jun 2018

He is insane and saying "unpredictable" is like calling lies "alternative facts". I will believe it when I see it.

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
13. So now he locks down the Republicans who want to smoke pot legally vote...
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 03:02 PM
Jun 2018

you know, Libertarians. The people who'd rather not vote than vote Democratic.

At the same time, I'm glad he's considering it at all.

I wouldn't bet either way.

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