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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 07:49 PM Jun 2018

Trump again calls for readmitting Russia to G7, blames Obama for Crimea's annexation

Source: MSN/CNN

President Donald Trump on Saturday doubled down on his call for Russia to be readmitted into the G7 and blamed his predecessor for Russia's aggression in Crimea.

"I think it would be an asset to have Russia back in," Trump said during an impromptu press conference at the summit. "I think it would be good for the world. I think it would be good for Russia. I think it would be good the United States. I think it would be good for all of the countries of the current G7. I think the G8 would be better."

Russia was suspended from the group -- then known as the G8 -- in 2014 after the majority of member countries allied against its annexation of Crimea. It was the first violation of a European country's borders since World War II.

Trump suggested that Russia be allowed back into the global group despite their continued occupation of Crimea.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-again-calls-for-readmitting-russia-to-g7-blames-obama-for-crimeas-annexation/ar-AAyqPAX?li=BBnb7Kz



Who knew that President Obama, not Putin, had ordered the annexation of Crimea? I guess Putin must have some really nasty s^%t on Trump.
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Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
1. There's a blue water navy base there..
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 08:06 PM
Jun 2018

Russia would have gone to war with the world to stop them. YOU do it dt. Let's see how far you get ya h'onyock.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
3. OK, Donald.... Show us how tough you are. Make Putin give it back.
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 08:14 PM
Jun 2018

"He allowed Russia to take Crimea. I may have had a much different attitude."

OK, Donald.... Show us how tough you are.

Make Putin give it back.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
4. OK, orange boy....
Sat Jun 9, 2018, 08:45 PM
Jun 2018

Send a couple carrier strike groups into the Black Sea and kick them out. I dare you, you orange shithead. I double dog dare you.

blue-wave

(4,353 posts)
7. Pee-Pee Tape or Not
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 08:30 AM
Jun 2018

They are attempting to gather as many goodies for Uncle Vlad before Donnie's play time in the White House is up. They know time is running out and therefore of the essence. The tide is turning. Thank you Mr. Mueller.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
8. Russia annexing Crimea isn't anyone's fault
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 01:16 PM
Jun 2018

Crimea historically has never had strong ties to the Ukraine.

It was an outpost where Greek, Roman and Byzantine colonies traded with the people of the Steppes. As the Byzantines receded, it became a land of the Mongols and Tatars (Cossacks). Eventually Russia took it from the Turks a couple of hundred years ago and it became a major naval base (Sevastopol). Russians started moving in to mix with the Cossacks.

In the 1950's the Soviets attached the peninsula to Ukraine for administrative ease. Who cares what province it was in. It was all the USSR. That change didn't make it any more Ukrainian than it had been before. Today the population of the Crimea is only about 2 million. Of that amount about two thirds are Russian, about 15 % are Ukrainian and 15 % are Tatars.

There is no way that Russia was going to give up Crimea to Ukraine without a fight. It's incredibly important to Russia as home to the Black Sea fleet and the majority of the population, many former military are Russian.

It isn't anyone's fault that Russia took Crimea.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
9. So, Russia Accidentally Invaded Crimea?
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 02:38 PM
Jun 2018

What you offer is a history lesson and a justification. That does not mean that Russia had no choice in the manner or that its military did not get involved. It is sort of like justifying a US preemptive attack on Iran or North Korea:

"There is no way that (the US) was going to give up (Iranian oil) to (competitors) without a fight. It's incredibly important to (Trump's backers)."

So, there you go. A preemptive attack on Iran to take its oil would not be Trump's fault because it is incredibly important to him. If you really, really want it, then it is okay.

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
11. The Russians have tried to suggest that they were just supporting the Crimean people's
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 03:56 PM
Jun 2018

desire to be part of Russia. When it came to the popular revolution in Ukraine against a pro-Russian despot, Russia wasn't quite so concerned with what the people wanted.

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
12. Yupster, Crimea wasn't Russia's to "give up." Russia and Ukraine signed the Treaty on Friendship,
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 04:02 PM
Jun 2018

Cooperation, and Partnership in 1997. It fixed the principle of strategic partnership, the recognition of the inviolability of existing borders, respect for territorial integrity and mutual commitment not to use its territory to harm the security of each other. You should avoid repeating Russian lies and disinformation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian–Ukrainian_Friendship_Treaty

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