Bernie Sanders Praises Trump-Kim Summit: Overall 'A Positive Step'

[DonViejo]

Source: Mediate



by Josh Feldman | 2:27 pm, June 12th, 2018

The historic meeting between President Trump and Kim Jong Un has been met with cautious optimism and outright skepticism by members of Congress.

Lindsey Graham came down on the side of cautious optimism today, while Bob Corker was a little more skeptical, saying “it is difficult to determine what of concrete nature has occurred.”

Meanwhile, Democrats like Nancy Pelosi have been more critical.

Bernie Sanders said in a statement the meeting was “light on substance,” but still an encouraging step:

Link to tweet

While very light on substance, Trump and Kim Jong Un’s meeting is a positive step in de-escalating tensions and addressing the threat of North Korea’s nuclear weapons. Congress has a key role to play in making sure this is a meaningful process, not just a series of photo ops.

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[George II]

1. Of course...

[JCanete]

5. that was praising? seriously? "more than a series of photo ops". The bar for praise is low.

[More_Cowbell]

14. I think "a positive step" is praise

I'd take it as praise, if someone said it to me.

[JCanete]

26. and not at all tempered by the suggetsion that it remains to be seen if this is just a photo op.

[ehrnst]

187. If Pelosi or Schumer had tweeted this, there would be a feeding frenzy from

many here who support Sanders, that they were being soft on Trump.

[JCanete]

211. maybe, and it wouldn't be any more right. I defended what Feinstein said about Trump, and I'm no big

fan of Feinstein, and I certainly detest Trump. But we can't and shouldn't play the game the the GOP does, that if Trump says the sky is blue then it must be purple. That partisan hackery is embarrassing. Sometimes he's going to do something quite by accident that isn't horrible. We can't pretend in those moments that that action was the wrong one.

[Demsrule86]

144. He put Trump in a positive light while children are being put in concentration camps in

Texas...better to have said nothing. It isn't a positive first step. Trump was played and is doing Putin's bidding. Say what you will but why never a kind word for Democrats from Sen. Sanders but Trump gets the benefit of the doubt from him? I don't understand. But I do know it will be played on every TV station tomorrow especially Fox...and will help Trump sell the Singapore con.

[Cha]

215. Yeah a "positive step".. is praising and ridiculous..

[Cha]

169. This is the "positive step"..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017496021

[betsuni]

170. HA!

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Where can I get a pair of

Dennis Rodman's weeping glasses? How much water does the reservoir hold?

[thucythucy]

3. "Light on substance"?

Trump has agreed to cancel joint US South Korean preparedness drills without one word of warning--let alone consultation--with our allies South Korea or Japan. That sounds pretty fucking substantial to me. He's praised one of the most ruthless regimes in the world, while denigrating our allies (who happen to be democracies).

He did nothing to address the threat of NK's nuclear weapons, while undermining South Korean and Japanese confidence in our value as an ally.

Again, that sounds pretty fucking substantive to me.

[Kittycow]

24. Good way to put it.

[ollie10]

55. Bingo!

[DemocracyMouse]

138. That's what B Sanders meant by "light on substance."

He also snuck in "de-escalate" which is a helpful reinforcement of a peace-making process (such as what United States police forces need/must learn.) We're all in general agreement – along with Sanders. Why "escalate" political divisions among progressives?

[ehrnst]

188. Throwing our ally South Korea under the bus is "light on substance?"

Really?

[volstork]

4. You're not helping.

n/t

[blue cat]

79. Helping what? N/t

[Honeycombe8]

213. Anything. nt

[John Fante]

6. Trump legitimizes Kim, Bernie legitimizes Trump.

All we need is for Van Jones to weep on camera with Rodman and the farce is complete.

[lagomorph777]

22. I'm afraid Bernie's gone too far for me.

I used to like him. Flame away.

[thegoose]

28. Not me (flame you, that is)

I agree with you. First he disses Democracts, then says he'll run as one, then says he'll refuse the party's nomination, then praises Dump (mildly, but you know it makes his Cheeto quiver nevertheless). Nope. Don't need him.

[humbled_opinion]

83. Oh FFS

Haven't learned anything, this is how we got Rump in the first place.

[Cha]

111. "Oh FFS" No it isn't

[lagomorph777]

122. Sure it is. Next time we should meekly accept the Annointed One.

No discussion or difference of opinion within the Democratic Party is acceptable. Many in the party still seem to believe that.

[Cha]

123. Oh yeah.. and it's

not happening.

[DemocracyMouse]

143. What does FFS mean!? And stop snipping at Bernie!

Why is everyone picking on a man who has worked ceaselessly to raise the nation's consciousness about the rigged economy? Yes, everyone on the left knew that the 1% has bought out the Republicans (and some Democrats), but B. Sanders aggressively hammers home the message like no other politician since the New Deal.

Pick on a Republican, kids. You're going to drive me to the schnapps....

[Cha]

146. Simmer down.. BS brings it on himself.

[DemocracyMouse]

179. How?

[ehrnst]

194. See the OP. (nt)

[DemocracyMouse]

200. I read it. Bernie Sanders made a clear, balanced statement

I see a lot of anxiety here about Bernie that should be directed at Republicans and Russia (under Putin).

Focus people!

[ehrnst]

203. That same statement coming from Pelosi or Schumer would be

torn apart as appeasment by many of the people who are praising Sanders for it.

Listen to yourself, people!

[ehrnst]

193. If you think Bernie can't handle some criticism here on DU without you scolding people

what does that say about your confidence in his ability to handle being a Senator?

And in all his years as a career politician, he's not as accomplished as relative newcomer Elizabeth Warren.

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/18/us/politics/18warren.html

Yelling and wagging one's finger isn't the same as actually doing something about it.

When a politicians' ambitions swell to the Oval Office, so does the scrutiny in equal measure.

You may want to get used to it.

[Cha]

209. Mahalo, ehrnst.. Well Done!

[treestar]

207. The nation is no more conscious of that than it was before

Bernie temporarily became a Democrat to run for POTUS, lost, and then did not get his followers to vote Democratic to avoid Dufus winning.

[KPN]

154. I dunno. Seems like that statement could be thrown out there by either side in this debate.

[treestar]

206. The anointed one is the one that gets the most votes in the primary process

Yeah, "meek" is not the word for accepting that.

[lagomorph777]

210. I keep seeing posts that imply there should have been no primary process.

...or that people who supported the "other" candidate were doing something wrong. Those posts are offensive.

[StevieM]

190. On a total change of subject, do you know what the first thing I thought was when I read your post?

You know how to properly spell the word "too" when using it in a sentence.

The president of the United States does not.

And to think that people gave Dan Quayle a hard time over misspelling potato.

[lagomorph777]

191. You say "potato" I say "potatoe" - let's call the whole thing off

The whole Trump Administration, that is.

[MrPool]

61. Oh you know Mr Love army

is dying to say again "This is when he became president" again.

[Me.]

73. We Need Goodman To Make It Complete

[sheshe2]

110. Ha Ha

[Cha]

118. Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi is living in the real world..

Link to tweet

Me

[sprinkleeninow]

167. There you go! 👏 eom

[Cha]

168. This is supposedly the "positive step"..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017496021

[NurseJackie]

82. Perfect!

6. Trump legitimizes Kim, Bernie legitimizes Trump.

Perfect! That's exactly right.

[murielm99]

7. Light on substance?

It was a photo op for two narcissistic madmen. It was an attention seeking exercise.

[Cha]

113. Yeah, like there was no freaking "substance" at all.. it was

in the below ZEROS.

[DownriverDem]

8. Still want Bernie?

Wake up people. Bernie is not going to save you.

[thegoose]

32. Try Pirelli's miracle elixir...

[tazkcmo]

37. I never thought

He was going to "save" me anymore than any other politician I've voted for, liked, supported or agreed with. I don't give any politician that much credit.

Having said that, he has done several things I've disagreed with since losing the primary battle to Sec Clinton and this one is a big screw up.

So, no, he nor Sec Clinton, President Obama or any other is going to save me. Yes, he has lost my support and respect now.

[tinrobot]

9. A photo-op where he praises a murdering dictator? Right after slamming Canada?

Not. A. Positive. Step.

Jeezus, Bernie....

[George II]

49. That's highly substantive, but certainly not in a good way.

[oberliner]

10. Alternate headline: Bernie Sanders Criticizes Trump-Kim Summit as "Very Light on Substance"

Demands Congressional involvement in the process.

[pnwmom]

15. Even the best headline you could come up with shows how slight Bernie's criticism was.

And Congress must approve any treaty, so that "demand" is meaningless.

[oberliner]

57. Understood

But I think his statement expressed both his belief that it's positive for them to be talking rather than threatening nuclear war and that the meeting lacked substance.

It certainly was not nearly as critical a statement as the ones from Schumer and Pelosi (and others), that's for sure.

[bettyellen]

17. Praises it as a positive step is the point of that sentence- light on substance just qualified it

And will doubtlessly he edited out of the quote by Trump in the ads.

[oberliner]

54. True

Bernie does think it's positive that they are talking to each other rather than threatening nuclear war.

[bettyellen]

99. He says nothing of he secret talks which are terribly concerning.

[NurseJackie]

19. Assumes "substance".

"Very Light on Substance"

Assumes "substance".

[LanternWaste]

23. I s'pose when it comes to headlines, it's all in the spin.

Tertiary headline: "Anyone who thinks Roy Moore will lose the AL special election is delusional..."

I s'pose when it comes to headlines, it's all in the spin.

[oberliner]

53. That's exactly my point

Bernie's tweet can be spun in either of those two different ways (as well as several others, I'm sure).

[John Fante]

76. It doesn't need to be spun in a positive way because Bernie is praising Trump!

[oberliner]

86. Only in the sense that Bernie prefers this to Trump threatening nuclear war

[John Fante]

94. If someone pulled a gun at you in anger, only to think

better of it and put it away, would you then praise them for not shooting you?

[oberliner]

95. Putting the gun away would be a positive step

[John Fante]

97. Oh brother.

[sheshe2]

112. No need to spin.

I take it a face value.

[ehrnst]

182. How about the content of that tweet?

How does one spin that?

[KPN]

158. +1!

[al bupp]

11. This seems like a reasonable statement to me, but let the Bernie bashing continue /nt

[tazkcmo]

30. How?

And up to this statement, I liked him and have said so many times on this site

I don't understand how he could think that either of those douchebags could be trusted by Sen Sanders. Neither has a history of good deeds, honesty or anything remotely considered positive.

[NurseJackie]

34. "let the Bernie bashing continue" --- Nobody is doing that.

This seems like a reasonable statement to me,

It does? Reasonable? Really? OMG!

but let the Bernie bashing continue

Nobody is doing that. GMAFB!

[LanternWaste]

43. I'd pretend criticism is bashing as well.

The oppression of a sacred cow being criticized for a less-than-stellar remark weighs heavy on all our hearts. The next time Sanders' own words are quoted, we should wear sackcloth and cover ourselves in ash.

We paint an enabling, un-thought out statement as pretty as we can (e.g., reasonable) and then dramatically advertise our petulance when our self-fulfilling prophecies come true.

'Sacred cow' is more and more becoming an apropos and accurate observation of far too many people who are otherwise rational.

[emulatorloo]

100. Well said, and the defensiveness and blindness to reality is getting stronger every day

[al bupp]

136. Right, I'm sure my comment was all of what you said

Though after reading it several times, I confess to not really knowing what that might be other than that I'm possibly a Sacred Cow, or Bernie is, or both, it's hard to say. I do know that I've somehow dramatically advertised my petulance, for which I will give you rhetorical points. That's nice turn of a phrase. But what's the self-fulfilling prophesy you refer to? That really mystifies me.

[George II]

52. The meeting gave a murderous dictator legitimacy. That in itself is significant "substance".

[rockfordfile]

56. Why would the guy compliment two dictators?

[al bupp]

133. Where, exactly, was the compliment?

Just asking.

[Blue_Tires]

70. There isn't anything praiseworthy about this bullshit stunt and you damn well know it

[al bupp]

130. He hardly praised anything

He merely said that "de-escalating tensions" was "a positive step", as have many, including Josh Marshall, because it is. The rest of his comment is clearly skeptical. Your outright mis-characterization of it is ridiculous on it face. Sheesh.

[Blue_Tires]

173. Of course the headline says differently, doesn't it??

and that's what most people read, anyway...

[al bupp]

195. One could suppose that some only read the headline

[Blue_Tires]

212. I've worked in news, my man...

I can personally verify that the vast majority of people only read the headline and the first graf of a story...

[al bupp]

214. That's undoubtedly true, sir, but here on DU, one expects more

And pleased to make your acquaintance, though you may disown it once I confess to being a Bruins fan.

[KPN]

159. Exactly! That's why the headline is so obviously bass ackwards or an intentional hit.

[Cha]

116. Of course.. to his fans. In reality it's giving

the fascist asshole trump cover while the fascist asshole is giving the brutal dictator Kim Un cover.

Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi knows what's going on..

Link to tweet

[al bupp]

132. Are we not allowed to agree w/ both statements?

They are not mutually exclusive IMO.

[Cha]

134. BS is giving cover to trump

Link to tweet

[al bupp]

139. So, possibly "de-escalating tensions" is BS

If so, OK, you win, never mind nuance. For me, I'm happy that for the moment, at least both of these lunatics' fingers appear to be off the nuclear trigger. Not that I think it's likely to last long. Yes, it was a stunt. I think the "photo-op" part of the comment in question kinda goes along w/ that, don't you?

[Cha]

142. Yeah, BS is giving cover to the Dictators who

are doing nothing but shitting on their countries.

Thank goodness Democratic Leaders understand that..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[KPN]

160. Good question. But apparently not. Stop asking questions and fall in line.

[al bupp]

197. Yes, and all the while remembering that it's the other guys who march in detestable lock-step

[NurseJackie]

12. Sure, Bernie! A photo-op that legitimizes a muderous tyrant is a "positive step".

[Hortensis]

13. When a journalist yelled a question at Kim Jong Un,

will NK dismantle its nukes, Kim didn't say anything but looked at him and laughed.

[sheshe2]

114. Seems to me the laugh said it all.

not.

[Cha]

135. Mahalo for the report, Hortensis..

[Blue_Tires]

16. Jesus... He just can't stop praising his boy Donnie, can he?

[sprinkleeninow]

38. Somebody please hold me down....😬

I can abide no longer regarding him.

💙🇺🇸🌊

[NurseJackie]

18. Sen. Schumer was more astute: "We've legitimized a brutal dictator who's starved his own people."

Sen. Schumer was more astute: "We've legitimized a brutal dictator who's starved his own people." I'm glad that at least ONE of our fine Senators is willing to be HONEST and TRUTHFUL and to criticize Trump and this administration. All I'm saying here is that it serves NO good purpose for anyone to flatter Trump by characterizing the meeting as "a positive step."

Link to tweet

Sen. Schumer:

"It is worrisome, very worrisome that this joint statement is so imprecise. What the US has gained is vague and unverifiable at best. What North Korea has gained however is tangible and lasting ... We've legitimized a brutal dictator who's starved his own people."
10:58 AM - Jun 12, 2018

[betsuni]

75. +1

[Cha]

120. Nancy Pelosi is lving in the real world, too..

Link to tweet

Mahalo for Senator Schumer reality based statement, Jackie!

Link to tweet

[awesomerwb1]

20. Sanders just made me $10

I bet a friend he would say something like that.

Some GOP traitors more critical of the meeting's results than Bernie. Shocker

[Cha]

137. Really?

Wow. I didn't think about him one or another.

But now that I see it.. it pisses me off.

[MrsCoffee]

21. Of course he did.

[EricMaundry]

25. Bernie is looking more and more like Jill Stein every day

[Wwcd]

40. From his NO Vote on Magnitsky to THIS.., just pulls another layer off Sander's mask

Am so damned grateful I'm a Democrat.
Thank you Sen Schumer.


Wtf .
Am fed up with the charade.
How he railled against Clinton's Iraq war vote and here he is.
First his stunning NO to Russia Sanctions & now this.
No need to pretend any further. WE ALL FKING SEE WHO YOU ARE.



"We've legitimized a brutal dictator who's starved his own people."

[orangecrush]

67. THIS!!!

[George II]

88. Don't forget he was one of only two Senators to vote against Russia sanctions.

[Wwcd]

91. WHY would he vote against sanctioning Russia?

Glad to see so many allied nations also seeing the urgency of Magnitsky & making it law in their own countries.

What would motivate anyone of power to give Russia a pass on sanctions for the murderous will of Vladimer Putin.

Who the f does that?

[George II]

104. From what I read (can't verify 100% since it was in the big, bad, corporate media)....

He proposed to include Iran sanctions in the Russia sanctions bill, then voted against it because it would jeopardize the Iran nuclear deal. Of course, trump has cancelled the Iran nuclear deal so that's moot.

[Wwcd]

109. Did he honestly think trump would carry thru with the Iran deal?

Like he thought trump went to NK to negotiate peace?

And we're spose to put our faith in him as leader of the USA?
We have more solid thinking choices within the Dem Party.
Dang

[Cha]

115. This is exactly what Al Sharpton was talking about when he stated..

Donald Trump is on course to be re-elected in 2020 because those in the current crop of potential Democratic presidential candidates are “too tame to deal with an untamed opponent,” one of the party’s key power-brokers has said.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210704251

WWcd

[Wwcd]

151. Then its time to weed the crop! Eh Cha!

[Cha]

162. Hey, Wwcd!

AbsoFrickingLutely!

[sprinkleeninow]

155. 👍🥂

💙🇺🇸🌊
out the loiterers!

[Cha]

164. Aloha, sprinkleen

[sprinkleeninow]

166. Aloha, Cha!

💙🇺🇸🌊
out the despoilers!

[R B Garr]

198. Excellent, Wwcd!

It’s all pretty obvious!

Where’s Tad Devine?

[Wwcd]

204. He's off electioneering another country into fascist chaos, got his $10million pay off and slithered

off until 2020

My best guess.
Think Manafort's gonna flip on his bff from the good old days in the Ukraine?

[R B Garr]

205. Oh, that $10 million! Still so many questions...

I would bet there is something that will shake loose from the Manafort debacle.... Devine would definitely know some work-arounds of the U.S. election system, which was part of his value to the Manafort foreign team, no doubt.

[R B Garr]

199. Totally!

We should be able to talk about that whole aspect of this...

[tazkcmo]

27. Too far.

He has just lost me. Never again will I support him in any way. Ever. The dumbest thing I have ever seen him say.

[brush]

29. God! Will he ever learn. Just say nothing, better yet, echo Sen. Schumer

"We've legitimized a brutal dictator who's starved his own people."

[SWBTATTReg]

31. I don't Sanders' optimism is warrented...

rump took no notes, had no documentation, claims he remembers everything that happened. Really?

This is not the way to run a meeting between two former adversaries that many thousands died on both sides in the Korean conflict. All we have is rump's word since he only went in w/ a translator. That's it.

Congress has already shown it is worthless in getting anything done, and I don't expect anything here to get done either, as a check to rump's possible promises to NK, or anything else. Like Corker said, it's difficult to see if anything was done of substance, and I agree.

Bunch of hot air if you ask me, on both sides.

[Lil Missy]

33. Is this Borowitz? Or the Onion??

[greatauntoftriplets]

35. Hitler probably loved his country, too.

[Adrahil]

36. My surprised face

[Hoyt]

39. Sanders is right on this. It sure beats trump thumping his chest threatening to nuke Rocket Man and

millions of innocent people

Calm might not last long, but I'm not going to hope Kim fires a nuke so we can say trump is a failure. Heck, we all know he's a failure even if he does a few reasonable things.

[Wwcd]

42. OMFG. Defend This Charade???

This Is Who Bernie Sanders Is.

Gddammit

[Hoyt]

47. I think I have a record of Sanders opposition, including 10 or so hidden posts. But he is right on

this. We don't all have to be like GOPers criticizing everything for political reasons, including things that are in the right direction. That's one of the character flaws that got us in this "gddamm" mess.

[Wwcd]

59. He should stick to domestic then because THIS is a just another of his many statements that

leaves him wide open to interpretation.

Nothing about Trump's meetup with NK should be applauded in any way.
It is a stupid & disgusting way to nomalize the humanitarian ineptness of both Kim & Trump.

Maybe he'll followup in a few days once he feels the blow back of his thumbs up.
Maybe he's got Weaver frantically writing a more palatable version as we speak.

TOO DAMN LATE.

[Me.]

74. As I Said Above

HA Goodman

[Wwcd]

77. Yes. H.A. Goodman

[NurseJackie]

51. I love you, Hoyt... but I think you missed the mark on this one.

It sure beats trump thumping his chest threatening to nuke Rocket Man

Using this kind of rationalizing and relativism, one could also argue how "positive" it is that a convicted child rapist is now only being accused of kidnapping.

but I'm not going to hope Kim fires a nuke so we can say trump is a failure.

I don't believe that ANYONE here is hoping for that.

Senator Schumer's response and analysis is the only correct one. "Trump has legitimized a brutal dictator who's starved his own people" (and murdered his own family members). This wasn't a "step in the right direction" it was a misstep... it was a mistake.

[Hoyt]

58. Just a few months ago, we were bashing trump for threatening war with NK, and rightly so.

Now, he has at least taken another tack. So, now, some folks are going to bash him for not going to war or, at least, meeting with a twin tyrant to avoid a war and take a few photos.

[Wwcd]

60. He's unpredictable. THATS THE PROBLEM.

Next week Trump will do a 180 leaving all who hung their political career on a madman twisting their words back into something sorta believable again.


He just aligned himself with McConnel, Cotton & the rest of Trump's lackeys ffs.

I now have no doubt who sanders stands with.

I''ll applaud Sen Schumer on this one.

[Hoyt]

62. Do not disagree. At least in this instance, his unpredictableness may have helped reduce tensions

if only for a short time.

Look, as far as I am concerned, if trump enacted healthcare for everyone, dramtically reduced income inequality, a guaranteed income, strict gun control, bolstered our safety nets, and more, I'd still detest him as a racist, misogynist, lying, greedy, bigoted white wing fool who pandered to ignorant white wing voters.

As to Sanders, he helped elect trump as far as I am concerned.

But, that doesn't change the fact that reducing nuclear tensions in Korea is the right thing to do.

[dustyscamp]

90. It definitely was the right move, but unfortunately we have the wrong person doing that job.

[brush]

126. You do know he appeased Kim by agreeing to stop the joint military...

exercises with South Korea, right?

He coughed that up for free to Kim and got nothing in return and Sanders praises it.

Neville Chamberlain is smiling down on them both now.

[Hoyt]

127. So. Not much for military maneuvers for intimidation whether by Russia, China, or us.

War is not necessary at this point, and I’m surprised at Democrats suddenly becoming hawkish.

[brush]

129. Come on. Is that really swooshing over your head? That's a bargaining point...

to negotiate with Kim to agreed to something—say verification of destruction of nuke test sites.

Does this really have to be explained? And it just came out trump also agreed to stop the sanctions without getting anything for it.

Nothing hawkish about knowing how to negotiate what's already in existence in exchange for what you want.

You don't just give key things away.

[Hoyt]

131. I think you miss the fact that this was not a negotiating summit. It was to arrive at

an agreement in principle with a country that has been isolated for over 50 years.

Christ, no President or Dictator sits down and hammers out a detailed agreement. Obama didn’t get into the weeds with the Iran agreement, Paris Accord, TPP, etc. That will take months, maybe years.

But at least the nukes aren’t about to fly right this minute.

[brush]

141. Of course it'll take months so why give away two key bargaining...

chips for nothing in return?

He's weakened our position before negotiations even start.

Not smart.

[Hoyt]

149. OK, I really don't care if we -- the USA, screw trump -- gave away things to draw

NK out. Christ, I’m a trump despiser too, but I don’t want to destabilize the world to make trump look like a fool. He does a good enough job of that. On this matter, I’m glad he softened his position. We didn’t give up a damn thing that matters.

[brush]

150. That's one way of looking at it. Another is he foolishly gave away two key bargain chips that he...

could've gotten something from NK for. North Korea gave away nothing and got two things from trump. And it it was just a preliminary meeting why is trump coughing up things already?

I hate to think what he else he gave away in the one-on-one with Kim with no one else to witness, and what else he'll give away in future negotiations

Not smart.

You really trust this bozo to not get fleeced again?

[Hoyt]

157. I trust that trump will have to think twice about threatening NK after this. I think that's good

and we didn’t lose anything.


I also think, even with a few points for the “summit,” trump — and us — is still a loser over the past few days for his performance in Canada, announcing admin would not defend pre-existing condition aspect of ACA, etc.

I am hopeful a Democrat will get elected in 2020 and take relationship with NK to next level, including human rights.

[kcr]

180. Sorry, but it isn't reasonable to prop up and legitimize a cruel dictator

It isn't the only alternative choice to threatening a nuclear war with him. This is nuts.

[Hoyt]

189. Fine, support continuation of hostilities. Personally, I've seen enough of that junk.

I think we, SK, NK and the rest of the world will be better off this way --

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/world/asia/north-korea-south-kim-jong-un.html


I do wish we had someone other than trump as our Prez involved in this, but he's what we've got right now. I prefer the trump who is not threatening “fire and fury,” to the trump who is. That's not supporting trump or Little Kim.

[Schedule]

41. No wonder Biden is beating him in all polls

but remember, he's not a Democrat.

[Wwcd]

45. Well if there was any question of his Party alignment,

THIS statement & his NO on Russian Sanctions vote, Magnitsky, clearly proves where he stands.

[njhoneybadger]

44. Bernie doesn't criticize tRump as much as he criticizes the Democratic Party.

[LenaBaby61]

46. For 5 people I know who were BIG Bernie supporters, but had begun waffling on supporting him ....

They're no longer waffling on supporting him as of today.

They tell me that with his statement today praising (They said praising) the meeting between tRump & Kim Jong Un, they're no longer Bernie supporters. They said that they're "done." I haven't spoken to my other Bernie supporting friends as of yet, but probably will soon to hear what their take on Bernie's comment about tRumputin's & Kim Jong Un's "meeting."

[emulatorloo]

103. I'm sure this is the last straw for many more. 2016 Bernie primary supporter here

he lost me long ago. I no longer think he has the temperament or judgement to be President. This is just another confirmation of that.

[Anon-C]

48. Totally did NOT see that one coming.

[all american girl]

50. dear god, bernie white trump voters aren't into you, so just stop it.

bernie, is being bernie, trying to get the white trump voters with this...not happening, man, just stop. This was only a photo-op, these "war game" are just typical military exercises...what's next, stop the the exercises in Japan and Australia? trump, and it seems bernie, will give anything to a dictator...unbelievable.

[Wwcd]

65. Post of the Day.

"dear god, bernie white trump voters aren't into you, so just stop it"



Says it all doesn't it

[all american girl]

98. Thank you...now I will be blushing

[Thekaspervote]

63. Bernie does not need to and should not being weighing in on this issue

[oberliner]

64. He is right now the most likely person to be the Democratic nominee in the next election

So, I think he should be weighing in.

[Wwcd]

69. Haaahaaa. He is the LAST person to be the Dem nominee.

He is despised within the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party has great well educated, & brilliant statespersons who's policy records puts bernie to shame.

He can go wherever he wants but it won't be the Dem Party.

Bye bernie & good riddance

[oberliner]

72. The top 15 Democratic presidential hopefuls for 2020, ranked (Washington Post)

1. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders

Another list; another Bernie at the top. Until he signals he may not run or gets into real trouble, Sanders has the best chance. But that doesn't mean he's got great odds. Given that we could see 15 or even 20 serious candidates, I don't see the front-runner having any more than a 20-25 percent chance of winning. And if things started today, that's where I'd put Sanders. (Previous: 1)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/03/23/the-top-15-democratic-presidential-candidates-for-2020-ranked-2/?utm_term=.8fe628cc87ea

[Wwcd]

81. Thats a big fat heap of bull being shoved down the throats of US voters.

"Money & Media"...there it is.
Bernie is not the image he's been marketed to be.

He will never be the Dem nominee. Why would we select him when we have many loyal proud qualified Dems of our own to choose from?
His charade is revealing itself & he's not even an afterthought when it comes to Dem candidates for 2020.

Its over for bernie. Face it whenever you're ready.

It's best to just add you to Ignore because I'm not the one to guide you to the reality of bernie sanders.
Today was the final straw for many who may have given him some credibility.


"This is what sanders claimed a positive step"??
"Trump coddled a tyrant and abdicated American ideals with his praise. He weakened America’s standing in the Pacific and accomplished nothing"



Bye

[oberliner]

84. I'm not saying I think he should be the nominee

I'm just saying he is considered the most likely by many at this point.

He did have a pretty good showing last time around.

That said, your points are well taken.

[Gothmog]

93. Great post

[sheshe2]

117. Brava Bella.

[brer cat]

147. +++++

I am a Democrat.

[ehrnst]

174. K&R

[mcar]

175. Love your sign!

[Wwcd]

176. Thanks mcar

[DavidDvorkin]

105. That's an opinion piece, not a poll.

[oberliner]

106. Here's a poll

BIDEN & SANDERS LEAD DEMOCRATIC FIELD

https://cola.unh.edu/sites/cola.unh.edu/files/research_publications/gsp2018_winter_primary21518.pdf

This one has Biden-Sanders as 1-2.

[DavidDvorkin]

107. Four problems with that poll

First, it's old.

Second, it shows Biden jumping into a significant lead over Sanders.

Third, it shows Sanders slipping badly.

Forth, respondents had to choose from a limited list of names, which may well not correspond to who will be in the primaries when they start.

That poll does not at all support the idea that Sanders is likely to be the nominee.

[oberliner]

108. Fair enough

"Most likely to be the nominee" is a bit much. I should have just said "one of the leading candidate for the nomination."

[sprinkleeninow]

152. Fifth, sixth.....

Um...

Got carried away. 🙄

💙🇺🇸🌊
out the loiterers!

[lapucelle]

184. And the poll is limited to NH residents.

"These findings are based on the latest Granite State Poll, conducted by the University of New Hampshire Survey Center. Five hundred and twenty-three (523) randomly selected New Hampshire adults were interviewed by landline and cellular telephone between January 28 and February 10, 2018."

[DavidDvorkin]

192. I didn't even notice that

So Sanders slipping to a weak second place in that poll is really bad news for him.

[NurseJackie]

80. Ha!! :-D

64. He is right now the most likely person to be the Democratic nominee in the next election

[oberliner]

85. Just going off the WaPo article I posted and various politics betting markets

Bernie is either listed as the most likely or, at the very least, one of the top three.

[NurseJackie]

87. That's more amusing the the "world's most popular politician" claim.

Bernie is either listed as the most likely or, at the very least, one of the top three.

That's more amusing the the "world's most popular politician" claim.

politics betting markets

Interesting.

[oberliner]

92. They usually list Bernie, Biden, Kamala Harris, and Elizabeth Warren as the frontrunners

Newsom and Landrieu also have decent odds.

[Wwcd]

89. K & R

[kcr]

183. No way. People don't want 4 more years of Trump.

He didn't win the first time, when no one thought Trump was going to win. What on earth makes you think he's going to get it this time? If he runs he's going to get stomped in the primary. Wishful thinking won't' make it so. Sorry.

[Cha]

165. Yeah, really. There is that.. especially with that

"weigh in".

[Cold War Spook]

66. This was more than a photo op.

Trump probably already has his architects working on whether he should put up condos or Trump towers on North Korea's beaches.

[Wwcd]

71. Wonder what Nat Sec he traded for the real estate deal

Ya it was a "positive step" if you have a share of the Trump profits.

Ya hear that bern?

Makes ya wonder.

[sheshe2]

119. Here ya go

[shanny]

68. translation, "Better than a war."

[R B Garr]

201. LOL, no. More like, Look at me, Trump voters!

Stomping on Democrats and siding with the guy who is getting attention that I would like for myself.

[Mike Nelson]

78. Sounds like...

… he's counting on luring some Trump votes for 2020. In my opinion, the Kim/Trump meeting was negative. Any "tensions" they eased were self-created. The meeting was repulsive, considering Kim's atrocities - and Bernie should have stated such.

[emulatorloo]

96. Pandering to Trump voters.

And that’s the most positive thing I can say about this.

[sheshe2]

121. Exactly, emulatorloo.

[Cha]

124. Whomever advised him

on that didn't take the pulse of the room.

This is too serious to be giving trump cover for a photo op meet with the vicious dictator Un.. no matter what the reason.

[R B Garr]

202. Totally! That's it. nt

[Thomas Hurt]

101. A first meeting with a US President that ended in status quo...

and a really nice photo op for the amoral pig in WH.

Not sure how that is positive or historic.

[brush]

128. It's not just a "status quo". trump agreed to stop the military exercises...

with South Korea without any reciprocal agreedment from Kim.

He coughed that up for nothing—the great negotiator my ass.

[all american girl]

102. bernie is trying to get white trump dude...as always

can you all realize he really has never cared about anyone but people who are him...can I now be angry about it. He is/was never caring about people like us-women, POC, LGBTQ, disabled, etc...

[Owl]

125. Absolutely totally agree

[Cha]

140. Yeah, it's always nice to give the asshole trump cover

who's giving the brutal dictator in NK cover.

Link to tweet

[TomCADem]

148. Between Trade Policy, Immigration and North Korea - Trump and Sanders ...

... are starting to see eye to eye, particularly on issues that seem to promote the U.S. as an isolationist, disengaged country.

[Wwcd]

153. + a million. K n R

There are quite a few more similarities as to politics & political alignment.

[YOHABLO]

145. Trump is going to milk this shit from here to 2020. 'See how great I am'

[SHRED]

156. Zzz zzz.....

[KPN]

161. "Praises Summit"? Now there's an intentional misrepresentation if ever there was one.

[madaboutharry]

163. I wish he would go away.

I am sick of him.

[Baclava]

186. AND TAKE ALL HIS BERNIE OR BUST BOTS WITH HIM

[truthisfreedom]

171. I think it's going to go bad. I think it's going to go wrong

And I think Bernie thinks so too.

[PubliusEnigma]

172. Bernie knows where his bread is buttered.

He's a glorified Jill Stein.

[itsrobert]

177. Bernie likes photo ops too.

Remember his staff aranging an invite to a Vatican conference and then Bernie flew his extended family to Rome in hopes of getting a meeting with the Pope? Still don't know who paid for the stunt.

[ehrnst]

178. Imagine if Pelosi or Schumer had tweeted this. The fur would fly.... (nt)

[kennetha]

181. Foreign Policy was never really Bernie's strong suit.

[Maven]

185. LOL, irrelevant sidelined Bernie has windbag envy.

Trying so hard to be relevant to (white) voters. Sad.

[sandensea]

196. It would be - if it weren't just a political ploy by Cheeto to help with the midterms.

I hope I'm wrong about that - but with Cheeto, one can usually just assume the worst.

[lunamagica]

208. He thinks he's going to get the teumpers behind him. What a disaster