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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:30 PM Jun 2018

DNC to reject fossil fuel company donations

Source: The Hill

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) will no longer accept campaign donations from fossil fuel companies.

The DNC's resolution, first introduced by Christine Pelosi, a member of the committee and the daughter of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was introduced as a way to connect with grassroots voters and emphasize the party's stance on environmentalism.

"Climate change caused by the burning of fossil fuels represents an existential threat to civilization, and Democrats committed in our 2016 Platform to curbing the effects of climate change, protecting America’s natural resources, and ensuring the quality of our air, water, and land for current and future generations," read the text of the resolution, which passed over the weekend and was provided to The Hill by the DNC.

The decision follows in the footsteps of a previous one made under former President Obama to ban all corporate PAC donations to the DNC.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/391933-dnc-to-reject-fossil-fuel-company-donations

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DNC to reject fossil fuel company donations (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2018 OP
Oooh, shit be gettin' real... Wounded Bear Jun 2018 #1
Kick and Reced! ehrnst Jun 2018 #2
This makes me proud again, to be a Democrat Maraya1969 Jun 2018 #3
Thank you, DNC. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #4
I wonder it contributions from BP solar or Shell solar will be accepted? LiberalArkie Jun 2018 #5
If they are, those who hate the DNC will be accusing them of being in bed with fossil fuel... ehrnst Jun 2018 #6
A smart and fairly safe move by the DNC. Paladin Jun 2018 #7
Also, fossil fuels are a sinking ship economically (let alone politically). lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #21
It is time to get all corporate money out of politics SkatmanRoth Jun 2018 #8
What is your definition of "corporate money?" ehrnst Jun 2018 #9
I am talking about non-human sources of money used to influnce elections SkatmanRoth Jun 2018 #10
So unions are corporate money, then. And 501(c)(4)s, because they're non-human. ehrnst Jun 2018 #11
Unions are people represented by Union leadership SkatmanRoth Jun 2018 #15
So when a union Super PAC (527) donates millions to a candidate, that is not "corporate" money. ehrnst Jun 2018 #16
You are effervescing with concern about my opinion on corporate money in politics SkatmanRoth Jun 2018 #18
I just wanted to clarify what thoughts you had ehrnst Jun 2018 #20
Great! Equinox Moon Jun 2018 #12
Excellent! Donations were only tokens anyway, Hortensis Jun 2018 #13
That previous decision to ban all corporate PAC donations was rescinded. Jim Lane Jun 2018 #14
While the symbolism is nice, maybe it would make more sense to take their money and donate it Vinca Jun 2018 #17
Good.. who needs to take stupid, dangerous, antiquated, Cha Jun 2018 #19
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
6. If they are, those who hate the DNC will be accusing them of being in bed with fossil fuel...
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 06:23 PM
Jun 2018

context be damned...because it feeds the narrative that supports certain candidates.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
7. A smart and fairly safe move by the DNC.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jun 2018

Fairly safe, because fossil fuels money has been overwhelmingly directed at Republicans rather than Democrats, for many years.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. Also, fossil fuels are a sinking ship economically (let alone politically).
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:08 AM
Jun 2018

No need to tie the fate of the Party to that mess.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
9. What is your definition of "corporate money?"
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 06:48 PM
Jun 2018

Organizations like 501(c)(4)s, that can accept dark money from donors, that endorse candidates?

Like the money that funds ads run by SuperPacs against a particular candidates' opponents?

The practice of counting the donations of individuals (over $50) as donations from the industry they work in?

Donations from Unions?

Can you be specific?

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
10. I am talking about non-human sources of money used to influnce elections
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 06:59 PM
Jun 2018

If the money does not come from a living person, it should not be used to elect a politician.

When business managers direct funds from the business to an election, the desired outcome is that of the business, not the citizens.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. So unions are corporate money, then. And 501(c)(4)s, because they're non-human.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 07:09 PM
Jun 2018

And if there is no money changing hands - like when a runs ads against a candidates' opponent?

That's dirty money, too, right?

Just trying to get your definition clear.

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
15. Unions are people represented by Union leadership
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 05:16 AM
Jun 2018

Unions are people representing people. Union funding election efforts are designed to further the interests of Union membership.

Not For Profit groups are just money furthering an interest.

Dirty money? Like when concerned groups spend huge amounts of money from unknown sources to oppose a particular issue (when this opposition is transparently designed to SUPPORT a candidate)? Like when candidates who support Chamber of Commerce written legislation benefit from 501's that provide ' information to voters ' that trashes their opponent?

Push the big money away and it might clear up a little.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
16. So when a union Super PAC (527) donates millions to a candidate, that is not "corporate" money.
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 06:47 AM
Jun 2018

Last edited Wed Jun 13, 2018, 07:36 AM - Edit history (3)

And you seem to be OK with "non-human" sources so long as they don't represent an industry. Like the United Mine Workers?

Or donations from the National Education Association, AFL-CIO, The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, and American Federation of Teachers?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/12/labor-unions-launch-50-million-super-pac/84282910/

And I'm still not clear if you think 501(c)(4) PACs are "corporate money." They don't represent people, but issues.

Can you clarify?

When I talk about SuperPacs running ads, I'm talking about those that that spend millions to run attack ads, to support a particular candidate by running attack ads on the position of their opponents - using their favored candidates' own talking points.

Do you think that the candidates who benefit should report that as a donation?

Do you also think that a $25,000 dollar donation from a wealthy donor should be turned down by a candidate? Is that candidate tainted?

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
18. You are effervescing with concern about my opinion on corporate money in politics
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:43 PM
Jun 2018

What is your point ehrnst?

Or are you just using me to practice your debate tactics for use in another venue?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
20. I just wanted to clarify what thoughts you had
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:55 AM
Jun 2018

the topic of "corporate money in politics" what that involved, the defintion, and what the implications were, after hearing what seemed to be changing defintions.

I have my answer.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Excellent! Donations were only tokens anyway,
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 09:10 PM
Jun 2018

compared to the Republican Party, but refusing their courtesy donations is a big statement.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
14. That previous decision to ban all corporate PAC donations was rescinded.
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 03:16 AM
Jun 2018

The article notes: "The decision follows in the footsteps of a previous one made under former President Obama to ban all corporate PAC donations to the DNC."

What it omits is that Debbie Wasserman Schultz subsequently engineered a reversal of that ban.

Last year there was an attempt to reinstate the ban, but it failed: "DNC Members Vote Down Corporate Money Ban". I don't remember reading of any further action on the subject. If the 2017 vote was the last word, then the DNC is now back in the business of accepting corporate PAC donations, except for any that may be covered by the new fossil-fuel policy.

Vinca

(50,279 posts)
17. While the symbolism is nice, maybe it would make more sense to take their money and donate it
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 07:04 AM
Jun 2018

to climate change research. A fool and his money . . .

Cha

(297,323 posts)
19. Good.. who needs to take stupid, dangerous, antiquated,
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:00 PM
Jun 2018

trump asshole supported, fossil fuels' $$$$$$$?

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