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turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:32 PM Jun 2018

Kansas secretary of state defies court order, won't register eligible voters

Source: Think Progress

“I think ‘immediately’ is kind of open to interpretation,” his office said.

KIRA LERNER JUN 20, 2018, 4:38 PM

Two days after a federal judge overturned his documentary proof-of-citizenship law and ordered him to register eligible voters, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach is openly defying the court’s order.

According to the Topeka Capital Journal, Kobach’s elections director instructed county clerks to continue demanding proof-of-citizenship from anyone registering to vote until they receive written instruction otherwise. A spokeswoman for Kobach said his office is still reviewing the 118-page ruling, which clearly finds the law unconstitutional and orders Kobach to attend six hours of legal classes for violating rules of civil procedure.

Danedri Herbert, the spokesperson for Kobach, said the judge was not clear when she instructed the secretary of state to accept voter registration applications without a document like a passport or birth certificate.

“I think ‘immediately’ is kind of open to interpretation,” Herbert said.

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/kobach-defies-court-voter-id-72f3279dd2a0/



In Monday’s order, she took that discipline to a new level when she ordered him to attend additional continuing legal education classes.


I think she may find him in contempt again.................


November 2018 cannot get here fast enough
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Kansas secretary of state defies court order, won't register eligible voters (Original Post) turbinetree Jun 2018 OP
Lock him up. n/t Still In Wisconsin Jun 2018 #1
And throw away the key...................... turbinetree Jun 2018 #2
Damn right. benfranklin1776 Jun 2018 #25
For Sure DownriverDem Jun 2018 #29
Nahhhh, we will put him MuseRider Jun 2018 #4
Especially if eligible voters are blocked. You can be sure those are mostly Democrats. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #6
Hey, I'm from Wisconsin, I get it. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2018 #14
Sorry, it really sucks MuseRider Jun 2018 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author BadgerMom Jun 2018 #30
Hope contempt of court and a few days in jail may convince... beachbum bob Jun 2018 #3
I would like to see him with a bologna sandwich and orange coveralls on turbinetree Jun 2018 #7
I am terrified that it will end with him in the White House someday. (eom) StevieM Jun 2018 #18
Rule of Law doesn't matter in the end to Fascists. They think the ends justify the means. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #5
That's the main reason we need to get out and vote............ turbinetree Jun 2018 #8
Absolutely +1. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #9
I guess it depends on what your definition of 'immediately" is LiberalArkie Jun 2018 #10
Maybe the federal judge Varaddem Jun 2018 #11
Idiot Gothmog Jun 2018 #12
The Judge is NOT going to be amused by this... Volaris Jun 2018 #23
The coward backed down Gothmog Jun 2018 #34
Knew the judge was going to throw his DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #37
TIRED as hell of these assholes NOT doing their job!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone Jun 2018 #13
LOCK HIM UP MiniMe Jun 2018 #15
Arrest and Rebl2 Jun 2018 #16
This man wants to be president someday. He is even scarier than Trump is. (eom) StevieM Jun 2018 #19
Lock all these mother fuckers up. MrsCoffee Jun 2018 #20
Jesus fucking Christ. progressoid Jun 2018 #21
A little time in Leavenworth for contempt MineralMan Jun 2018 #22
That's not how this works. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2018 #24
in my neck of the woods... noneof_theabove Jun 2018 #26
Hey, They Don't Call This Cretin, KKKris KKKobach for Nothing!! DoctorJoJo Jun 2018 #27
Some things never change... czarjak Jun 2018 #28
Why doesn't Herbert look up the legal definition of "immediately"? csziggy Jun 2018 #31
Kobach has backed down and will obey ruling Gothmog Jun 2018 #32
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2018 #33
Kobach has agreed to get the required CLE training Gothmog Jun 2018 #35
People are now able to register to vote Gothmog Jun 2018 #36
Aaaaaaugh!!! I fucking hate EVERYONE! Codeine Jun 2018 #38
Lock up any workers who obey his order lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #39

benfranklin1776

(6,449 posts)
25. Damn right.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 08:14 PM
Jun 2018

And given his brazen contempt for the rule of law, made especially more egregious given his public position, he’s a menace to society so I consider him a superpredator and thus worthy of 23 hour a day solitary confinement like the true threat to civilized democratic society that he is.

DownriverDem

(6,232 posts)
29. For Sure
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 08:34 PM
Jun 2018

He should be thrown in jail. Too many RWNJs are pushing the envelope and need to be called on it.

MuseRider

(34,131 posts)
4. Nahhhh, we will put him
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:38 PM
Jun 2018

in the governor's office. Just wait and see. I would like to think Kansans had learned their lesson but, nah.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
14. Hey, I'm from Wisconsin, I get it.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 06:01 PM
Jun 2018

We've elected a criminal Governor in our three most recent gubernatorial elections. Walker breaks the law? NO PROBLEM! The Republican statehouse will just change the law so whatever he/they did is legal!


MuseRider

(34,131 posts)
17. Sorry, it really sucks
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 06:34 PM
Jun 2018

to be held by the lunatics doesn't it? We used to be a sensible state. Ah well, that little moniker has flown.

Good luck.

Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #1)

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. Hope contempt of court and a few days in jail may convince...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:38 PM
Jun 2018

Him...no bail..No getting out of jail. Be awesome.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
7. I would like to see him with a bologna sandwich and orange coveralls on
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:41 PM
Jun 2018

this is not going to end well for him................he got slapped with one citation

LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
10. I guess it depends on what your definition of 'immediately" is
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jun 2018

I personally believe it means NOW. But some legalistic SOB;s might see things differently.

Varaddem

(432 posts)
11. Maybe the federal judge
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:53 PM
Jun 2018

Can use the word immediately in a sentence To help him with the definition. I mean how quickly he should be in jail. And he should stay in for more than a few days considering that he showed distain for the bench

bluestarone

(17,062 posts)
13. TIRED as hell of these assholes NOT doing their job!!!!!!!!!!
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:59 PM
Jun 2018

Every fucking one of them think they're above the law of the land!!

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
20. Lock all these mother fuckers up.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 07:44 PM
Jun 2018

Let's all go out and make citizen's arrests!

I can't stand it anymore!#$#$@!

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
22. A little time in Leavenworth for contempt
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 07:56 PM
Jun 2018

might clarify his comprehension, I think. An indefinite time would be in order.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,647 posts)
24. That's not how this works.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 08:09 PM
Jun 2018
You may find out that it means "U.S. Marshal, arrest this person and bring them before me immediately."



Openly defying the federal judge who just schooled your sorry ass in a "go back to law school, dimwit" order is NOT a wise move.


noneof_theabove

(410 posts)
26. in my neck of the woods...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 08:14 PM
Jun 2018

growing up my grand-dad often used "post haste".

That blow up the last 3 brains cell of a Rethug.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
31. Why doesn't Herbert look up the legal definition of "immediately"?
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 09:14 PM
Jun 2018

It's easy to do:

What is IMMEDIATELY?

“It is impossible to lay down any hard and fast rule as to what is the meaning of the word ‘immediately’ in all cases. The words ‘forthwith’ and ‘immediately ’ have the same meaning. They are stronger than the expression ‘within a reasonable time.’ and imply prompt, vigorous action, without any delay, and whether there has been such action is a question of fact, having regard to the circumstances of the particular case.” Cockburn, C. J., in Reg. v. Justices of Berkshire, 4 Q. B. Div. 471
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https://thelawdictionary.org/immediately/


Gothmog

(145,631 posts)
35. Kobach has agreed to get the required CLE training
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 11:15 PM
Jun 2018

This amuses me http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article213444484.html

On Monday, a federal judge struck down the state's proof of citizenship voter registration law in a ruling that excoriated Kobach’s conduct in court and ordered him to take additional legal classes. Kobach quickly promised to appeal; his office said the judge had reached an “extreme conclusion.”

He said he believes Judge Julie Robinson’s requirement of additional education is not necessary, though he will comply with it.

“I’m not familiar with any other judge doing such a thing,” Kobach said.
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
38. Aaaaaaugh!!! I fucking hate EVERYONE!
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:58 PM
Jun 2018

This whole goddamned country is being flushed down the fucking toilet. I can’t even react rationally to this constant stream of shit anymore — I’m just permanently enraged.

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