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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:26 PM Jun 2018

GOP Senator on Russian Election Hack: Hey, Everyone Does It

Source: The Daily Beast



Ahead of a congressional trip to Moscow, Richard Shelby of Alabama downplayed the Kremlin’s election interference, saying, ‘We’ve done a lot of things, too.’

ANDREW DESIDERIO
SPENCER ACKERMAN
06.28.18 6:02 PM ET

Shortly before traveling to Moscow with several colleagues, a senior Republican senator all but gave Russia a green light for future interference in U.S. elections.

"Most countries would meddle and play in our domestic elections if they could, and some of them have," the Washington Examiner quoted Sen. Richard Shelby, an Alabama Republican and chairman of the powerful Appropriations Committee, as saying.

"We have to be realistic nations are going to do what is in their next [sic] interest; we’ve done a lot of things too."

Shelby, a former chairman of the Senate’s intelligence committee, is leading a delegation of Republican senators to Russia for nine days to meet with Russian officials. It’s unclear if they will meet with Vladimir Putin or his foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-senator-on-russian-election-hack-hey-everyone-does-it?ref=home

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GOP Senator on Russian Election Hack: Hey, Everyone Does It (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2018 OP
I guess we've finally come full circle htuttle Jun 2018 #1
To;;Collusion is no big deal pbmus Jun 2018 #3
Who needs elections, anyway? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2018 #21
Ri-i-i-ight - none of this matters anyway FakeNoose Jun 2018 #23
Yup - and so what if we are participating? Shelby needs to join Roy Moore lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #25
Oh well, hackers gotta hack, meddlers gotta meddle The Genealogist Jun 2018 #2
OMG. Republican party is rotten and traitorous to it's core. skylucy Jun 2018 #4
Good for you all. Gave me a well needed laugh, the 3 of you doing your thing together as ... SWBTATTReg Jun 2018 #12
Thank you for your kind words! skylucy Jun 2018 #17
Major cool story kimbutgar Jun 2018 #15
Thanks, Kimbutgar. And your Dad was obviously wise and knew what the Trumpster skylucy Jun 2018 #18
My parents are recently departed; I'm glad they didn't have to see this. It would have killed them. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #26
Hey everybody does... ThoughtCriminal Jun 2018 #5
Is this Shelby of "We have bin Laden on the run" fame? Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #6
Whee was your voice when Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #7
Senator Shelby from Alabama leading a delegation of Republican senators to Russia. MelissaB Jun 2018 #8
so how are you going to PROTECT US from such meddling, Sen. Shelby? 0rganism Jun 2018 #9
Hackers gotta hack, investigators gotta PROSECUTE truthisfreedom Jun 2018 #10
He can say what he likes with that big ole "R" after his name. With impunity. yonder Jun 2018 #11
Exactly. If the hacking happened to a repub, and caused them to lose an election, like you ... SWBTATTReg Jun 2018 #13
Going In Before the MidTerm Election, I see MagickMuffin Jun 2018 #14
Let's just drop the word republican and have the [R) mean Russian agent from now on. kimbutgar Jun 2018 #16
Yes, but .... Toorich Jun 2018 #19
Yet if anyone to the left of Mussolini ever pointed out US malfeasance. We were told to love it or Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #20
Russia Invades US. Unopposed. Who cares? Hey, Everyone Does It. Snellius Jun 2018 #22
Probably most Republicans really believe that because they do it all the time. Nitram Jun 2018 #24
So he has no problem that Russia supported Trump because it was in Russia's interest to do so?? Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #27
they wont care qazplm135 Jun 2018 #28

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
1. I guess we've finally come full circle
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:29 PM
Jun 2018

From 'There are no Russia connections'

Through several permutations, until finally we are at

"So what if they hacked our election?"

21. Who needs elections, anyway?
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 03:53 AM
Jun 2018

The time it takes people to vote could be better used making money for the corporation. Political contributions to candidates and PACs could be better used buying back stock and paying dividends. Think of all the money we'll save by not having to buy new nameplates every time a congressman or senator is voted out (that's rare, I know, but it happens).

I know Donnie Two Scoops would sign an EO canceling elections if he thought he could get away with it. He might do it anyway. He's had a lot of "wins" lately, and given the size of Trump's ego and his unpredictable behavior, he'd stop the elections just to piss of the Democrats, and maybe even the Republicans. The Repugs in Congress are too cowed by the Trump's invincible base they'll defend any batshit thing IQ45 does. For the GOP, it's "party over country" every time.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
2. Oh well, hackers gotta hack, meddlers gotta meddle
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:39 PM
Jun 2018

We've messed up other people's elections too.

Anyone for lunch?

A foreign nation fucked around with a US election, and this is the reaction from a goddamned US senator. Screw you, traitor.

skylucy

(3,740 posts)
4. OMG. Republican party is rotten and traitorous to it's core.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:43 PM
Jun 2018

I feel kind of bad today because I ranted to my 91 year old father (a proud veteran of the Korean War) that our country---our democracy---is in deep trouble and that we are living through horrific times that I fear might not end well. He and my mom detest Trump but Dad is a sunny, optimistic person (Might be why he is still quite self sufficient, just passed his drivers license test, etc.) He feels that good will win out and Trump and the Repugs will get theirs in the end. I hope I didn't over do it with my rant and cause him even more upset about what is going on. Before I left, Dad, Mom and I all flipped the bird at Trump speaking on TV. My mother, always the gracious lady, never swore or gave the finger to anyone for 89 years...but she makes an exception for Trump.

SWBTATTReg

(22,158 posts)
12. Good for you all. Gave me a well needed laugh, the 3 of you doing your thing together as ...
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 08:30 PM
Jun 2018

families should do, and I really enjoyed it. Best to all of you!!

kimbutgar

(21,185 posts)
15. Major cool story
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 09:09 PM
Jun 2018

You’re lucky you have your parents still alive and politically active.

Both of my parents are gone but I can just imagine them being outraged by Twitler.. And I remember my Dad saying, “ Twitler was a phony jackass” in the 90’s.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,048 posts)
5. Hey everybody does...
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:51 PM
Jun 2018

... that... thing...that... totally didn't happen... and is fake news... that...everybody does...all...the time... except we didn't do...uh...ever.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
6. Is this Shelby of "We have bin Laden on the run" fame?
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:54 PM
Jun 2018

So, he comes from a trip from the Middle East right before we get hit on 9/11, and now he's talking up Russia and dismissing the kind of election meddling that starts wars in other countries?

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
7. Whee was your voice when
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:54 PM
Jun 2018

"We did a lot of things too?" Bullshit. You protect the decisions your country makes in keeping us secure. Unreal.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
8. Senator Shelby from Alabama leading a delegation of Republican senators to Russia.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:57 PM
Jun 2018

Hey, everybody does it.

0rganism

(23,968 posts)
9. so how are you going to PROTECT US from such meddling, Sen. Shelby?
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 08:11 PM
Jun 2018

any sane representative of our federal government who isn't in CYA mode should be prepared to answer such questions or comments regarding Russian interference in our presidential election with a detailed response concerning countermeasures, not some "everyone's doing it" bullshit.

yonder

(9,671 posts)
11. He can say what he likes with that big ole "R" after his name. With impunity.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 08:23 PM
Jun 2018

No problemo. Hide behind it all day long.

As we know, it would be a different story with a Democrat. The hearing would've started by now and within a week some unfortunate soul would have been removed from office. A quick trial, guilty verdict would result followed by a frog march to the local federal pen.

Hyperbole? Sure, but right now that's what it's looking like from my POV.

SWBTATTReg

(22,158 posts)
13. Exactly. If the hacking happened to a repub, and caused them to lose an election, like you ...
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 08:32 PM
Jun 2018

say here, I guarantee you they (repubs) would have been all up in everyone's faces, screaming and yelling.

Hypocrites, all of them.

Toorich

(391 posts)
19. Yes, but ....
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:06 PM
Jun 2018

..... he wears a little bitty flag on his lapel and stands for the Nat'l anthem.
And he believes millionaires and billionaires need tax relief.
He's a goddamned bona fide reThug and that's all you need to know. Selah!

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,505 posts)
20. Yet if anyone to the left of Mussolini ever pointed out US malfeasance. We were told to love it or
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:11 PM
Jun 2018

leave it, blah, blah, blah. These motherfuckers have the consistency of pudding.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
22. Russia Invades US. Unopposed. Who cares? Hey, Everyone Does It.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 06:12 AM
Jun 2018

The Republican Party stands for nothing anymore. If they ever really did. Except holding on to power. Even when democracy gets in their way. They are as morally and ideologically bankrupt as the Soviet Union before its fall.

Freethinker65

(10,047 posts)
27. So he has no problem that Russia supported Trump because it was in Russia's interest to do so??
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 03:48 PM
Jun 2018

Aren't these the same people that told us Russia was pure evil and we should be scared for our lives from exKGB Putin just a few years ago? And now they gladly go to meet with Russia officials?

So why was is in Russia's best interest to have Trump elected, Mr. Shelby?

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