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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 09:57 AM Jun 2018

Big Majority Don't Want to Overturn Roe v. Wade

Source: PoliticalWire


June 29, 2018 at 8:05 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

A new Kaiser Family Foundation poll poll finds that 67% of the American public do not want the Supreme Court to overturn the 1973 landmark Roe v. Wade decision that established women’s constitutional right to abortion.”

“The poll finds a slim majority (53%) of Republicans would like to see Roe v. Wade overturned, while large majorities of Democrats (81%) and independents (73%) would not. Similar shares of women (68%) and men (65%) want Roe v. Wade to stand, but among women of reproductive age, three-quarters (74%) want Roe v. Wade to stand.”

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Read more: https://politicalwire.com/2018/06/29/big-majority-dont-want-to-overturn-roe-v-wade/

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Big Majority Don't Want to Overturn Roe v. Wade (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2018 OP
majority doesn't want toddlers in cages either and yet....... dembotoz Jun 2018 #1
Or Trump in the Oval Office. And yet...... Golden Raisin Jun 2018 #16
It doesn't matter DownriverDem Jun 2018 #17
Exactly. Plus, the S.Ct. doesn't decide cases according to the popular view. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #34
Bingo workinclasszero Jun 2018 #20
A big majority wanted expanded background checks on gun purchases as well NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #35
Of course, the will of the people has long not meant anything. Blue_Adept Jun 2018 #2
Upwards of 90% support gun restrictions on no-fly list members...and we get nothing Moostache Jun 2018 #37
I give that one to my NRA friends. And they'll all say they support a ban! 7962 Jun 2018 #38
They know the facts about abortion. Archae Jun 2018 #3
Many remember the coat hangers and/or horrible stories and deaths. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2018 #4
Many are going to see this first hand workinclasszero Jun 2018 #21
Then they should have voted that way. Lochloosa Jun 2018 #5
They did. ck4829 Jun 2018 #7
That majority has no power in DC right now. LonePirate Jun 2018 #6
Not to be snarky but this matters how exactly? nt efhmc Jun 2018 #8
A more honest comment would be to acknowledge you want to say the OP isn't important. Judi Lynn Jun 2018 #47
Well it is a little bit f**king too late. Just wait, there will be a lot more things they won't still_one Jun 2018 #9
Too bad that ship sailed. leftofcool Jun 2018 #10
Would overturning this cause riots coast to coast? Lucky Luciano Jun 2018 #11
Coast-to-coast rioting? Hope so. (nt) Paladin Jun 2018 #13
No. It would probably just be left to each state to decide. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2018 #23
you gotta know that they will pass laws in those anti-abortion states lapfog_1 Jun 2018 #32
Who would ever know? People travel from state to state all the time. 7962 Jun 2018 #40
To bad the only majority that really matters on this issue is the majority on the supreme court standingtall Jun 2018 #12
Big majority of Americans never took a high school civics class FakeNoose Jun 2018 #14
Glass half full - The Blue Tsunami grows with every atrocity... CapnSteve Jun 2018 #15
A big majority didn't vote for Twitler. muntrv Jun 2018 #18
This poll was taken before A. Kennedy's retirement was announced progree Jun 2018 #19
Then they should have thought of it earlier. malthaussen Jun 2018 #22
Just putting this out there OnlinePoker Jun 2018 #24
I think they'd be told that they don't belong here FiveGoodMen Jun 2018 #28
They would be in violation of the TOS. GulfCoast66 Jun 2018 #45
GOP doesn't care. They want to rule, not govern. n/t Beartracks Jun 2018 #25
Then "Big Majority" should have fucking voted to protect it. But they didn't. Squinch Jun 2018 #26
Voter opinions are not a deciding factor in SCOTUS rulings. They know that. ehrnst Jun 2018 #27
The big picture SCVDem Jun 2018 #29
HuffPo points out... yallerdawg Jun 2018 #30
So the Republicans in marginal seats will just be careful to not ask the SC nominee directly muriel_volestrangler Jun 2018 #31
Even if the majority of the American people say this in a poll Ohiogal Jun 2018 #33
All this is nothing compared to Hillary's dangerous emails world wide wally Jun 2018 #36
The ruling class will always have access hibbing Jun 2018 #39
And people in Iran don't want a lot of shit get the red out Jun 2018 #41
But are those the majorities in Red or Blue states? Snellius Jun 2018 #42
A big majority voted for HRC over Trump too DBoon Jun 2018 #43
Overturning Roe vs Wade will be like Prohibiton REDUX! KCDebbie Jun 2018 #44
Grounds for impeachment Politicub Jun 2018 #46

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)
17. It doesn't matter
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 10:55 AM
Jun 2018

We are being controlled by the minority. Why in hell didn't folks listen to us about voting for Hillary? Besides the candidate, you vote for what the party stands for. We will be suffering for a long time.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. Exactly. Plus, the S.Ct. doesn't decide cases according to the popular view.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:26 PM
Jun 2018

It decides cases based on the laws, the Consitution, rights of citizens, interpretation, preceding case decisions, etc.

And what the voters on the right SAY they want is different from what they DO. If they vote for candidates whose goal is to wipe out choice, that is what those voters WANT, despite what they say in a poll.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
20. Bingo
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 11:30 AM
Jun 2018

It doesn't mean shit what the people want in this country and hasn't for a long time.

Majorities want legal pot, affordable or single payer health care, decent paying minimum wage jobs, clean air and water, the rich to pay their fair share in taxes, no babies locked up in cages by Trump's ICE etc.

And guess what? The fucking GOP government doesn't give a DAMN!

Trump and Pence WILL DELIVER to their fanatic religious right the death of Roe, count on that!

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
37. Upwards of 90% support gun restrictions on no-fly list members...and we get nothing
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jun 2018

The owners of this country, the 15-20 mega-rich clans that inter-marry and rule us from on high, they don't care wtf the public wants...we get what they allow and no more.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
38. I give that one to my NRA friends. And they'll all say they support a ban!
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:40 PM
Jun 2018

I tell them to tell it to the damn NRA

Archae

(46,337 posts)
3. They know the facts about abortion.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 10:00 AM
Jun 2018

Especially the fact that the biggest mouths screaming that they are "pro-life" have had their mistresses get abortions when they got knocked up.

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
47. A more honest comment would be to acknowledge you want to say the OP isn't important.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 02:31 PM
Jun 2018

Clearly it has importance to the majority of people in this country who believe women's choices about their own lives are not to be overriden by people who want to interfere.

still_one

(92,222 posts)
9. Well it is a little bit f**king too late. Just wait, there will be a lot more things they won't
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 10:13 AM
Jun 2018

the SC to overturn.

Funny how among some, it isn't a issue until they realize this will actually hurt them.

I guess we will see in November just how serious the voters are




JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
23. No. It would probably just be left to each state to decide.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 11:59 AM
Jun 2018

The only women directly affected will be those without the means to travel to states (or countries) where it's legal.

So, no reason to riot coast-to-coast.

Trump's mistresses, the mistresses of well-to-do evangelicals, they're covered because they can travel.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
32. you gotta know that they will pass laws in those anti-abortion states
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:24 PM
Jun 2018

to make it illegal to travel to another state or country for the purpose of having an abortion.

And I predict they are going to pass laws to punish women who obtain abortions... even women who live in states where it is legal to have an abortion. If those women move or travel to those states, they can be expected to be arrested for their "illegal" acts.

Remember that the anti-abortion nut jobs believe that abortion is murder, and the guilty parties are both the women who have them and the doctors that perform them.

The President they elected has stated this in an interview with Chris Matthews.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
40. Who would ever know? People travel from state to state all the time.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:44 PM
Jun 2018

I dont see how Texas could "catch" someone going to New Mexico? Medical info is protected, so a clinic wouldn't release that info.
Youre right about Trump, although he rarely really knows what hes saying when he says it

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
14. Big majority of Americans never took a high school civics class
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 10:41 AM
Jun 2018

...or if they took one, they weren't paying attention. That's why we're back to square one now. The GOP is playing with fire and they're going to burn it all down.

I wonder how many lady-friends' abortions has Cheeto personally paid for? That would be an interesting statistic. Not that it's anybody's business, but it would demonstrate how little concern he has for the Pro-Lifers.



progree

(10,909 posts)
19. This poll was taken before A. Kennedy's retirement was announced
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 11:29 AM
Jun 2018

Polls come out more pro-choice when there's recent news of a real threat to abortion rights (as that makes it more of a "real" issue than a philosophical/rhetorical issue to some people), so I would expect a poll taken soon after the A. Kennedy retirement news to be even more pro-choice than this.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
22. Then they should have thought of it earlier.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 11:51 AM
Jun 2018

How many of that 67% didn't bother to vote to head off the upcoming train wreck? Will they bother to vote now?

-- Mal

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
24. Just putting this out there
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:03 PM
Jun 2018

What do you think would be the reaction on DU if the 16% of Democrats who want it overturned (according to the survey) would start posting that opinion here?

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
28. I think they'd be told that they don't belong here
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:11 PM
Jun 2018

Fuck the 'Big Tent' we need to stand for something!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
45. They would be in violation of the TOS.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 01:50 PM
Jun 2018

The Democratic Party supports the right of all Americans to make their own health choices including when to terminate a pregnancy. States it in our platform.

The republicans state otherwise in theirs. So if someone, even a democrat make an anti-Roe comment on DU they are posting republican talking points and their post would be hidden.

They are welcome to post on other subjects and as long as they are members of the Democratic Party and only vote for democrats they are welcome here. But I doubt you will see m(any)

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
27. Voter opinions are not a deciding factor in SCOTUS rulings. They know that.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jun 2018

That's why the GOP wants this SCOTUS seat so badly.

They can secure the laws that they pass now.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
29. The big picture
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jun 2018

First ban abortion.
Next remove maternity leave.
Then any aid for women with children is removed.

Now a woman taking time off is fired and a white male takes her job. Women are powerless once again. They need to rely on a man.

Mission accomplished!

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
30. HuffPo points out...
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:20 PM
Jun 2018

in 2020 - if we take it all! - we can stuff the court, 11, 13, 15 - whatever we want!

Under FDR, just the threat alone straightened out the Supreme Court - stopped ruling against the New Deal!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
31. So the Republicans in marginal seats will just be careful to not ask the SC nominee directly
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jun 2018

"will you vote to overturn Roe v. Wade?" That way, they can just say "I voted for a judge who'd be true to the Constitution blah blah blah", and let the Supreme Court take the heat, who don't have to give a toss what voters think. The states where Republicans have comfortable majorities will ban abortion and get away with it.

Ohiogal

(32,008 posts)
33. Even if the majority of the American people say this in a poll
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:25 PM
Jun 2018

Doesn't mean the fascists and theocrats won't try to ram their ideology down our throats anyway.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
39. The ruling class will always have access
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:43 PM
Jun 2018

Like many have said, it does not matter anymore what the majority of citizens want. The ruling class will always have access to clean and safe abortion.

Peace

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
41. And people in Iran don't want a lot of shit
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 01:30 PM
Jun 2018

But that's not how religiously controlled governments work, you take whatever shit they give you, no choice.

DBoon

(22,369 posts)
43. A big majority voted for HRC over Trump too
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 01:35 PM
Jun 2018

sorry, but the majority does not matter anymore

A dictator listens only to himself and his loyal supporters, not to anyone else

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
46. Grounds for impeachment
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jun 2018

Any judge that concurs with an opinion repealing Roe is committing bad behavior against the body autonomy and right to privacy of women. For this reason, he could be impeached and forcibly removed from the bench.


Article 3 [of the constitution] mentions good behavior of judges, without defining it. According to the Congress.org website, produced by CQ-Roll Call Group, this is taken to mean that the reasons for impeachment of a federal judge aren't limited to criminal acts.

Source: https://legalbeagle.com/6596992-rules-removing-supreme-court-justice.html
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