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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 11:56 AM Jun 2018

Scorching, long-duration heat wave to roast much of U.S.

Source: Axios

July is typically the hottest month of the year, for both the U.S. and the planet as a whole. However, this year it is going to start off particularly hot across the country, as a dangerous heat wave stretches from Arizona to Maine.

Why it matters: The heat and humidity will combine to create life-threatening conditions in many cities, particularly in the Midwest and Northeast, where heat advisories and excessive heat warnings are in effect.

The cause: A sprawling and unusually intense area of high pressure aloft, also known as a "heat dome," will promote sinking air and sunny, storm-free conditions for areas under its influence.

At the peak of the heat wave between July 1 and the Fourth of July holiday, more than 50% of the lower 48 states are forecast to see high temperatures exceeding 90 degrees Fahrenheit.



Read more: https://www.axios.com/scorching-heat-wave-hits-us-millions-affected-20cda585-2f74-4bd4-8aed-d3826d2c4126.html

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Scorching, long-duration heat wave to roast much of U.S. (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2018 OP
Minneapolis: today's high forecast: 97 deg (and heat index 107) nt progree Jun 2018 #1
welcome to a Texas summer only nationally. Javaman Jun 2018 #2
I was going to say, "Welcome to Phoenix". Coventina Jun 2018 #4
It is the hot nights in Phoenix that sound so terrible, lows averaging 81 for months. braddy Jun 2018 #8
81 if we're lucky. Temps in the 90s overnight are more and more common. Coventina Jun 2018 #10
Having lived in AZ and now living in southern Ontario... Jedi Guy Jun 2018 #31
Gosh, and I thought in desert areas it really cooled off at night. Does it cool off raccoon Jun 2018 #29
Yes, our high night temps are largely due to the heat island effect. Coventina Jun 2018 #33
It usually gets hot around July 4th here in Philly BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #3
So it was artistic license in the musical of the move 1776! treestar Jun 2018 #17
You know BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #19
I lived in Center City Phila and the summers have always been hot and humid. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #27
No doubt about it BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #30
It's 81 degrees here in the tropics. It's been really Cha Jun 2018 #21
It's 78 outside now here BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #23
Shaka! Cha Jun 2018 #24
I've always wondered how they survived this kind of heat back in the day. Jedi Guy Jun 2018 #32
One thing that helped in homes was no insulation and loads of windows...... Bengus81 Jun 2018 #34
I can't speak for the southern areas but here in Philly, the wealthy gentry left the "downtown" BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #36
I've never really been to Philadelphia, and only saw a small part of Pennsylvania. Jedi Guy Jun 2018 #37
You've been all over! BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #38
We are at or below average temps right now in Phoenix dbackjon Jun 2018 #5
In Texas... mbusby Jun 2018 #6
Heat index 106 in Houston today TexasBushwhacker Jun 2018 #20
Could be worse - could be Oman where the temp didn't drop below 108 for more than two straight days dbackjon Jun 2018 #7
In Ottawa, Canada on Sunday, the predicted humidex is 47C 116.6 F nt The_jackalope Jun 2018 #9
Wow! Delphinus Jun 2018 #40
republican lies about the climate are dangerous for America Achilleaze Jun 2018 #11
Early for this... Maxheader Jun 2018 #12
In the meantime, San Deigo and Southern California are experiancing a cooling trend... haele Jun 2018 #13
The longer we have May grey and June gloom the happier I am. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #28
So how are those imprisoned asylum-seekers going to do in their tents/cages? Hekate Jun 2018 #14
My first thought too canetoad Jun 2018 #15
Depends if the AC holds out. Igel Jun 2018 #25
In 20 years, this will be merely average NickB79 Jun 2018 #16
There's no fancy name for this event? EarthFirst Jun 2018 #18
The planet is fine............. Takket Jun 2018 #22
It has only been in the high 90's for a couple of days here(Louisiana)... Ferretherder Jun 2018 #26
We never had spring here in Kansas,it was snowing in the first week of April Bengus81 Jun 2018 #35
Read that the heat index was 104 in the northern Michigan hamlet of Bitely. n/t Julian Englis Jun 2018 #39

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
10. 81 if we're lucky. Temps in the 90s overnight are more and more common.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 12:55 PM
Jun 2018

At some point, this is going to destroy the economy as the climate becomes worse and worse.

Jedi Guy

(3,193 posts)
31. Having lived in AZ and now living in southern Ontario...
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 11:43 AM
Jun 2018

I'd take the desert heat in a heartbeat. The heat isn't what gets me, it's the humidity. After living in Tucson for over 10 years, moving to the Toronto area was a real shock.

As I type this, it feels like 102F outside, and it's not yet noon. I went out to run errands this morning, and even then it was brutal. I really feel bad for folks who have to work outside and/or don't have any kind of air conditioning. I'm going to go around this afternoon and check on some of my elderly neighbors to make sure they're okay and see if they need anything.

raccoon

(31,111 posts)
29. Gosh, and I thought in desert areas it really cooled off at night. Does it cool off
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 05:26 AM
Jun 2018

more in rural areas in AZ? Pavement and concrete holds a lot of heat.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
33. Yes, our high night temps are largely due to the heat island effect.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jun 2018

It does get much cooler in rural areas at night.

BumRushDaShow

(129,106 posts)
19. You know
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 05:49 PM
Jun 2018

I was a freshman in high school during the bicentennial and I believe the teacher of one of my classes ("Poetry" ) took us to see that musical here. It's been so long ago but I believe it did run here at the Forrest theater back in the spring of 1976. It would make sense since the play was about the events here.

Supposedly it was "hot as hell" INSIDE the state house and adjoining buildings though...

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
27. I lived in Center City Phila and the summers have always been hot and humid.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 03:35 AM
Jun 2018

Phila is full of brick buildings which suck up the heat and hold onto it. Indep Hall didn't have a/c and if those men had to wear wigs and layers of clothing which was the norm, than I expect they were "Hot as Hell".

BumRushDaShow

(129,106 posts)
30. No doubt about it
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 06:05 AM
Jun 2018

Back then, they also wore all natural fibers (obviously) - cotton and/or wool... But then that area of the city (Olde City) is just a few blocks from the Delaware River and back then, the river came pretty close to being at Front Street (& via a canal along Dock Street). There was no such thing as Delaware Ave. (let alone I-95) because that strip was underwater and only came about after river dredging a couple centuries later. I remember in the '70s (I was in high school) when they were constructing that "final" portion of I-95 that runs along there and it's so much different there even during my lifetime - with Penn's Landing, etc). So there were some "breezes" off the river and even a now-gone island that was in the middle of the river that people there would go to by ferry back then, in order to cool off. Plus many of them had "summer" homes in the "suburbs" (now NW Philly - including Germantown, Mt. Airy and Chestnut Hill), which are at a higher elevation and much "cooler" (relatively) in summer.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
21. It's 81 degrees here in the tropics. It's been really
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 09:06 PM
Jun 2018

cool this spring and summer so far.

BRDS lol@1776 in the '70s

Jedi Guy

(3,193 posts)
32. I've always wondered how they survived this kind of heat back in the day.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 11:48 AM
Jun 2018

It's so easy to take things like electric fans and air conditioning for granted, even though they're pretty recent innovations. Imagine this kind of heat combined with the kind of clothing they wore back then. Multiple layers of cotton and/or wool, and decorum at the time prohibited wearing the short sleeved shirts or shorts. Women in particular suffered awfully, I'm sure.

I remember when I visited Tombstone, AZ with my wife about ten years ago. It was in the mid 90s, and there were people wearing historically appropriate clothing for that time period. I couldn't understand how they didn't drop dead of heat stroke in five minutes flat.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
34. One thing that helped in homes was no insulation and loads of windows......
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jun 2018

along with 10-11 foot ceilings in some homes. I'm always surprised when I open up my backyard storage shed on a 95d day,it feels like it's 75 in there because it can't trap the heat like a fully insulated home.

Or like my dad who was born in 1923 used to say,if you never felt the effects of air conditioning then you didn't know what you were missing out on. We're all wimps compared to people back then who had to deal with brutal summers.

BumRushDaShow

(129,106 posts)
36. I can't speak for the southern areas but here in Philly, the wealthy gentry left the "downtown"
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:53 PM
Jun 2018

and "summered" in the cooler, hilly rural areas of southeast PA (mostly within what is currently the city limits but not so back then). Many of the houses then (a few are still around here and there) were built specifically to deal with the weather including the heat - where some had strategically-placed breezeways and all had plenty of windows to open, as well as having cool "root cellars".

In general, even though the "Olde City" part of Philly had quite a few brick/mortar buildings (homes/stores) then, they didn't have black asphalt streets or multi-story skyscrapers to consolidate the heat. lol The streets were either cobblestone or dirt or brick. The roofs were not asphalt shingles but clay tiles or slate or even wood. They were also close to the river and when the wealthy fled the heat, the "peasants" fled to the river or the wooded parks that William Penn had setup here some 300 years ago (that are still here).

But as a note - people eventually get acclimatized to wherever they are although obviously you rarely heard about those who suffered heat stroke or exhaustion which they probably did.

When I was in Egypt about 25 years ago, I was there the last week of July and into August, eventually trekking through towns along the Nile with desert on both sides, from the north of the country to the south. When we were in Edfu, the temp had reached 125F (but only 10% humidity). The guides and folks in the town had everything covered from head to toe - but all cotton. You know it's hot when you are feeling your skin burn. I remember seeing a long sinewy dog lying in the thin shade of a lampost. It was the most fascinating but obviously self-preserving thing I had seen given the spot we were at didn't have trees or much vegetation. But the one thing that Egypt did back then after they built that Aswan dam, was to put up an entire electric grid, from the south to the north. You could go along a bumpy dusty road and find a vendor with an electric refrigerator chest selling bottled water almost in the middle of nowhere.

Dry heat is a bit easier to deal with - just add some humidity to it, then evaporate it, and finally circulate everything with a fan, essentially pulling the heat out via that moisture... which is what they tend to do with cooling in AZ, i.e., the "swamp cooler", which can drop the temp indoors 20 - 30 degrees. Unfortunately you can't do that when you have the humid slop that won't let you sweat. That's when people just sit and fan themselves if there is no AC - you are NOT running around like people expect you to do in America nowadays.

Jedi Guy

(3,193 posts)
37. I've never really been to Philadelphia, and only saw a small part of Pennsylvania.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jun 2018

I landed there 20 years ago when I flew out to visit a lady friend who lived in Scranton, but didn't get a chance to really explore the city much. It was the middle of summer, hotter than the hinges of hell, and I recall sweating buckets while everyone else was just kinda lightly perspiring. I kept asking how the hell they survived this kind of humidity. Then I discovered why basements are a thing.

Of course, the reverse was true when friends visited me in AZ. I was used to the dry heat, so I thought it was amusing the way my friends guzzled water like they'd just trekked through the Sahara. They were mystified that I was wearing jeans instead of shorts, and an undershirt beneath my t-shirt.

You're right, though, that people do get acclimatized eventually. I grew up in Ocean Springs, MS, so it was always humid. I moved to AZ in my late teens, and for the first year or two, the lack of humidity was troublesome. I was in the shower once, and when I opened my eyes after washing my hair, I was shocked to see blood in the water. Turned out it was so dry that the inside of my nose cracked and bled. That freaked me right the hell out, let me tell you, but I did eventually get used to it.

Now here I am in southern Ontario, and it seems like my body is stubbornly refusing to adjust back to the humidity. I dread the summers. Like today, for instance... I got all my running around done as early as I could, and now I'm holed up in the house with the curtains drawn and the A/C going for all it's worth.

I know Philly is getting the heat wave just like we are here in Hamilton, so I hope you're staying cool! Thank you for the history lesson about Philly and its environs. Hopefully someday I'll get the chance to visit again. There's so much history, and I adore things like that! If I ever do find myself heading out that way, I might hit you up for a list of places that'd be neat to visit since you're clearly quite a historian!

BumRushDaShow

(129,106 posts)
38. You've been all over!
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:56 PM
Jun 2018


I was just up in Niagara Falls (on the Canadian side) a few years ago in the middle of July. Yes it was hot hot hot. But at least those gigantic falls were nearby and the lake does help a bit to moderate some of the temps (although they produce the nightmarish "lake effect snow" too). So wasn't that far from you back then while traversing that hilly little town. Have also been to Windsor probably 20 years ago (popped over from Detroit). Of course nowadays it would be a nightmare at the border (it was getting to that point even a few years ago... )

My poor city often gets shafted in favor of Boston or NY. I used to work in that historic area and going out to lunch one day, remember hearing some tourists whose kid asked his Mom where the Constitution was drafted and signed, and whether it was in Boston.... and she said yes (this is while they were literally a few blocks away from where it WAS drafted & signed).



But... at least we won the Super Bowl!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
20. Heat index 106 in Houston today
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jun 2018

What's bad for me is that the heat means more ozone pollution which just wipes me out.

haele

(12,660 posts)
13. In the meantime, San Deigo and Southern California are experiancing a cooling trend...
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 03:13 PM
Jun 2018

Currently in the mid/low 70's. We'll start getting warmer by the end of the next week that might get us up into the high 80's, low 90's along the coast and inland valleys. Mountains and Deserts are higher by 10 - 20 degrees, but they're still within average expected temperatures.
Of course, this doesn't help the long term drought situation, but at least the burden on the grid isn't critical yet.

Thank you, Pacific Ocean.

Haele

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
28. The longer we have May grey and June gloom the happier I am.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 03:43 AM
Jun 2018

I am allergic to bug bites and for the past 3 years they have been feasting on me. Last hear I had over 300 bites and I still have the scars. Others have noticed it too. Even Bill Maher mentioned it on his show tonight. Climate change is bringing more insects and many carry diseases and the moron has been restricting their research and has eliminated most of the staff in the fields of Science and Weather.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
25. Depends if the AC holds out.
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jun 2018

I, for one, wasn't aware there were such things as "air conditioned tents."

Then I saw the pictures. There are such things as air conditioned tents.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
16. In 20 years, this will be merely average
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 04:49 PM
Jun 2018

Wait until the heat and humidity get up in the 130's or better, and see deaths by the thousands.

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
26. It has only been in the high 90's for a couple of days here(Louisiana)...
Fri Jun 29, 2018, 11:50 PM
Jun 2018

...but the humidity - above 60% - makes it feel like the minute you walk out your door, in the morning, a person greets you and says, 'welcome to Louisiana', and wraps a wool blanket around you.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
35. We never had spring here in Kansas,it was snowing in the first week of April
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:26 PM
Jun 2018

and remained cool yet I was running the AC for the first time on May 2nd--at least 2-3 weeks early. Our May in Wichita was the second hottest since 1880 and the high temps have ran 10-15d above average starting on month three tomorrow. While we haven't broken any records that I know of it's just hot (95-99 each day) and many days dew points in the high 60s to low 70's. The next day is like the one before.

I'd rather have it 105 every day and low humidity............


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