Divers make headway in search for 13 trapped in Thai cave
Source: Straights Times
Divers make headway in search for 13 trapped in Thai cave
A Thai worker pumping water out of a cave complex to reduce water levels during the rescue effort for a missing football team
at the flooded Tham Luang cave in northern Thailand last Saturday. The 12 boys and their coach have not been heard from
since they ventured into the cave on June 23 and were trapped by heavy rain.PHOTO: EPA-EFE
PUBLISHED 30 MIN AGO
MAE SAI (Thailand) Rescue divers inched closer to a spot in a flooded cave where 12 boys and their football coach are believed to be located, after days of bad weather hampered the gruelling search.
The children, aged 11 to 16, and their 25-year-old assistant coach have not been heard from since they ventured into the recesses of the Tham Luang cave in northern Thailand on June 23 and were trapped by heavy rain.
The clouds parted yesterday and, with the help of water pumps, divers were able to establish a forward operating base inside the twisting chambers, raising hopes that the "Boars", as the football team is known, could be located soon.
"Today is a bright day for me and our team. We have sunlight today, roads are easily walkable," Mr Narongsak Osottanakorne, governor of Chiang Rai province, told reporters yesterday afternoon.
Read more: https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/divers-make-headway-in-search-for-13-trapped-in-thai-cave
Lucky Luciano
(11,248 posts)God awful tragedy otherwise.
NBachers
(17,082 posts)oasis
(49,332 posts)oasis
(49,332 posts)A short 10 second video showed the weary, but alert group. All are safely at home by now.
Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)It would have taken some kind of effort to keep focused, and calm throughout.
What a wonderful discovery they had all made it through, back to their lives. With help!
TexasBushwhacker
(20,148 posts)The water level has been going down, but it's supposed to rain more soon. It looks like they are going to have to SCUBA their way out.
oasis
(49,332 posts)has got to be at hand.
oasis
(49,332 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)Published 7:10 p.m. ET July 3, 2018
It took 10 days to find the 13 members of a youth soccer team trapped in a cave in Northern Thailand. The rescue could take 10 times longer.
The soccer team, 12 boys age 11 to 16, and their 25-year old coach, Ekaphol Chantadee Wong, were exploring the Tham Luang Nang Non cave, a popular tourist attraction, in Chiang Rai, a forest park near the Myanmar border.
On June 23 the boys entered the cave, which runs six miles beneath a mountain. Its passages alternate between wide and extremely narrow. In some areas, only one person at a time can squeeze through.
The boys had visited the cave before and were there on a team outing. It began to rain while they were inside and they were trapped inside by rising floodwater.
More:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/07/03/thai-cave-rescue-illustrated-look/755782002/
oasis
(49,332 posts)All we can do is hope and pray for every soul to see the light of day again, no matter how long it takes.
Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)Updated 2:47 pm CDT, Wednesday, July 4, 2018
MAE SAI, Thailand (AP) The Latest on the search for 12 boys and their soccer coach in a cave in northern Thailand (all times local):
1:05 p.m.
The Thai official overseeing the rescue operation of a soccer team trapped in a flooded cave says the boys and their coach may not all be extracted at the same time depending on their health.
Chiang Rai provincial Gov. Narongsak Osatanakorn said Wednesday that "all 13 may not come out at the same time. If the condition is right and if that person is ready 100 percent, he can come out."
He said authorities will evaluate their readiness each day and if there is any risk will not proceed.
More:
https://www.chron.com/news/world/article/The-Latest-Trapped-Thai-team-practices-with-13048468.php
Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)Tassanee Vejpongsa, Associated Press
Updated 10:54 am CDT, Wednesday, July 4, 2018
MAE SAI, Thailand (AP) Their skinny faces illuminated by a flashlight, the Thai soccer teammates stranded for nearly two weeks in a partly flooded cave said in a video released Wednesday that they were healthy, as heavy rains forecast for later this week threatened to complicate plans to safely extract the boys.
The 12 boys and their coach are seen in the video sitting with Thai navy SEALs in the dark cave. The boys, many wrapped in foil warming blankets, take turns introducing themselves, pressing their hands together in a traditional Thai greeting and saying their names and that they are healthy.
The video, lasting about a minute, was recorded sometime Tuesday and was posted on the navy SEAL Facebook page Wednesday morning. The navy later released two more videos of the boys.
The boys, aged 11-16, and their 25-year-old coach disappeared after they went exploring in the Tham Luang Nang Non cave in northern Chiang Rai province after a soccer game June 23. The teammates, who were trapped inside when heavy rains flooded the cave, were found by rescue divers Monday night during a desperate search that drew assistance from experts around the globe.
More:
https://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Soccer-players-speaking-from-Thai-cave-say-they-13048302.php
Lars39
(26,107 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)By BEN TRACY CBS NEWS July 4, 2018, 6:38 PM
CHIANG RAI, Thailand -- It's been more than a week since 12 boys and their soccer coach got trapped inside a flooded cave. Rescue crews have brought them food and medicine, but it's still too dangerous to bring them out.
Video of the boys from inside the cave shows them flashing peace signs and smiling. One by one, they look at the camera and say they're in good health.
But outside the cave, rescuers are struggling to come up with a plan to bring the boys out safely. The local governor says the children are being given a crash course in swimming. They have tried on dive masks that would allow them to breathe underwater if rescuers decide to attempt what would be a very dangerous and long swim through a dark and narrow cave.
"If you don't know how to swim and you are in very black environment that could potentially kill you inside a cave, it's not a good environment to learn in," said Claus Rasmusen, a volunteer cave diver.
More:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thailand-cave-rescue-latest-updates-today-boys-swimming-crash-course-2018-07-04/
Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)Kate Lyons
Wed 4 Jul 2018 22.47 EDT
22:46
Boys may be able to walk out
Michael Safi Michael Safi
Rescuers are now able to enter the cave and make it as far as chamber three about 1.5km into the cave network without scuba gear.
The water has been reduced by 40% so we can enter the cave without any diving equipment, said Poonsak Woongsatngiem, a rescue official with Thailand Interior Ministry.
Officials have warned that chamber three still has water reaching up to the roof of the cave and so the focus is now on draining chamber three and the 2.5km passage from chamber three to where the boys are currently sheltering.
The so-called chamber three is still in crucial stage. We want to drain water as much as we can, said Poonsak. However, I couldnt estimate the depth. It varies because some areas may be deeper. We target the water in the third chamber to reduce to the point that no diving equipment is needed, like to the waistline, so one can wear just life jackets and walk out.
More:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/05/thailand-cave-rescue-thai-free-boys-football-soccer-team-monsoon-rain-live
Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)By Clare Wilson
Rescuers are trying to help get out the twelve boys and their football coach stranded in a flooded cave system in Thailand before the waters rise more. One option is to teach them to scuba dive from scratch but its not an easy prospect.
Has anything like this been done before?
There have been a few similar style rescues, although over much shorter distances. For instance in 1992 two men were taken through 200 meters of flooded passages in Sleets Gill Cave in Yorkshire in the UK. There has been nothing approaching this level of difficulty, though, nor with people so young as this.
How hard is it normally to learn cave diving?
Cave diving is known for being one of the worlds most dangerous sports. It combines the risks of two separate activities, caving and scuba diving, which each carry significant risks. In the UK under-18s arent even allowed to learn cave diving.
There are frequent deaths of experienced cave divers, usually due to people running out of air after getting lost because the waters have become cloudy with silt kicked up from the cave floor. Here there is a known exit route with a guide rope, but the boys and their coach will still need to learn how to use the scuba equipment and swim through dark narrow passageways without panicking.
More:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2173560-can-trapped-thai-boys-be-rescued-by-learning-to-scuba-dive/?cmpid=ILC|NSNS|2018_webpush&utm_medium=ILC&utm_source=NSNS&utm_campaign=webpush-Roost-Thaicavescuba
coti
(4,612 posts)It sounds like one of the primary concerns is the possibility that a child will panic during an escape dive and end up drowning. Medication could be used in a couple of different approaches to help the children escape. An anti-anxiety med could help keep them calm during a dive, hopefully that they've also practiced a good amount for. Another, somewhat crazier, but depending on the circumstances possibly even safer, possibility would be to knock them out with an appropriate medication, and, with the children breathing with a full-face mask that could not come off, the pro divers could pull them through the water like a sack of potatoes behind them.
It sounds like the kids are already practicing using the scuba gear. That's good. It may also help for them to desensitize themselves through successive approximation/gradually getting themselves comfortable with the idea of squeezing through those openings with no visibility.
coti
(4,612 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)By JONATHAN VIGLIOTTI CBS NEWS July 5, 2018, 6:55 PM
LONDON -- Their flashlights broke nine days of darkness -- and their distinct British accents broke the silence. John Volanthen and his partner Rick Stanton were the first to reach the 12 boys trapped in a cave in Thailand.
Out of their wetsuits, Volanthen is an IT consultant and Stanton is a retired firefighter. But both are known around the world for their self-taught hobby.
They're considered among the best cave divers on the planet, nicknamed the "A-team." It's a skill Volanthen once compared to space travel.
More:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meet-the-british-a-team-helping-the-thai-military-craft-a-plan-to-save-boys-trapped-in-cave/
Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)But they don't have much time.
ROSIE PERPER, BUSINESS INSIDER
6 JUL 2018
Authorities have been able to drain some of the water from the cave where a Thai soccer team has been trapped for 12 days, which may allow the team to avoid using diving equipment and almost walk out.
Rescuers can now enter the cave up until the third chamber located about 1.5 kilometers (1 mile) from the cave's entrance without using scuba gear, Poonsak Woongsatngiem, a rescue official with Thailand's Interior Ministry, told reporters on Thursday.
There are 20 pumps currently draining floodwaters from the cave and water levels have been reduced about 40 percent in some areas.
But challenges still remain with 2.5 kilometers of the tunnel full with water and heavy monsoon rain expected this weekend.
More:
https://www.sciencealert.com/water-pumping-drain-could-rescue-the-trapped-boys-from-thailand-s-cave-without-any-diving-monsoon
Judi Lynn
(160,451 posts)Updated 1:01 pm CDT, Friday, July 6, 2018
MAE SAI, Thailand (AP) The Latest on the rescue of 12 boys and their soccer coach in a cave in northern Thailand (all times local):
12:30 a.m. (Saturday)
Authorities in Thailand say that they will not immediately attempt an underwater evacuation of 12 schoolboys who have been trapped in a cave for almost two weeks because they have not learned adequate diving skills in the few days since searchers reached the area where they are sheltering.
The official in immediate charge of the operation, Gov. Narongsak Osatanakorn, indicated strongly at a midnight news conference that if heavy rains started and appeared to be causing flooded areas in the cave to rise again, they would try to take the boys out with divers right away.
Thai officials had been leaning in their public statements toward a quick underwater evacuation because of fear that access to the cave could soon close again because of seasonal monsoon rains expected this weekend. However, cave rescue specialists have cautioned against that approach except as a last resort, because of the dangers it poses.
More:
https://www.chron.com/news/world/article/The-Latest-Croatia-World-Cup-squad-offers-Thai-13054162.php
SharonAnn
(13,771 posts)Spelunking (caving) is dangerous even when there's little chance of water.