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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 05:16 PM Jul 2018

Alabama Boy Scouts hurled racial slurs and threw rocks at Ethiopian troop member

Source: Raw Story


Dominique Jackson
02 JUL 2018 AT 16:24 ET

A Georgia Boy Scout experienced racial bullying while on a camping trip. The boy, who is the son of an Ethiopian immigrant was called the N-word, and had rocks thrown at him by Boy Scout members of another troop.

The 14-year-old boy, who is a member of Scouts Troop 10 from Johns Creek, Georgia was on a week long camping trip in Alabama. Members of Boy Scouts Troop 76 from Vestavia Hills, Ala., were camping next to them and began using racial slurs to bully the young boy.

The mother, who wished not to be identified, confirmed to AL.com that the boys threw rocks at her son.

“It upsets me that this is that boy’s summer camp memory,” said Leanne Potts, a mother whose son belongs to Troop 10.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/alabama-boy-scouts-hurled-racial-slurs-threw-rocks-ethiopian-troop-member/

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Alabama Boy Scouts hurled racial slurs and threw rocks at Ethiopian troop member (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2018 OP
I can't BELIEVE how this "behavior" is becoming the "new normal"-- just because of you-know-who ailsagirl Jul 2018 #1
NormalIZED because of him FiveGoodMen Jul 2018 #2
I know and I just hate it ailsagirl Jul 2018 #4
NO, not just 'certain parts of the country'. There are hateful bigots everywhere. groundloop Jul 2018 #26
You certainly can't compare college students to adolescent boys. virgogal Jul 2018 #27
That is so sad ailsagirl Jul 2018 #40
totally agree MBS Jul 2018 #37
..... ailsagirl Jul 2018 #39
Disgusting The Genealogist Jul 2018 #3
Please...they likely learned it SoCalNative Jul 2018 #12
Of course. Kids learn racism from their parents. nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #13
Probably so The Genealogist Jul 2018 #14
You've got to be carefully taught zipplewrath Jul 2018 #52
What the hell was his Scout Master and troop doing? Floyd R. Turbo Jul 2018 #5
Turning a blind eye Phoenix61 Jul 2018 #7
Had that shit happened to any of my troop-mates there would've been hell to pay! Floyd R. Turbo Jul 2018 #8
No fucking kidding. malthaussen Jul 2018 #44
Awarding points, probably. These kids learn from adults what is acceptable in their social group. nt tblue37 Jul 2018 #51
I went to scout camp in the mid 80s The Genealogist Jul 2018 #16
Charge them all with assault and a hate crime. Solly Mack Jul 2018 #6
WTH are the Boy Scouts becoming Trump/Hitler youth? workinclasszero Jul 2018 #9
Uh, seems like this troop should be removed by the Boy Scouts, TNNurse Jul 2018 #10
Well, their goes that citizenry merit badge. Oh wait, it's Alabama, never mind. dameatball Jul 2018 #11
Could this be the summer camp Laura Ingraham is thinking of? Midnight Writer Jul 2018 #15
Troop 76 Recruiting Poster Floyd R. Turbo Jul 2018 #17
"A Scout is..." regnaD kciN Jul 2018 #18
Troop 76's new anthem? workinclasszero Jul 2018 #19
Is this from a movie? The Swing Kids? (not sure of title) bobbieinok Jul 2018 #29
No. Cabaret. Aristus Jul 2018 #33
Gets a point across though workinclasszero Jul 2018 #34
The whole of Troop 76 need to be tossed out of the Scouts and the Scout Master needs to be fired! Stonepounder Jul 2018 #20
Contact the Chief Scout Executive of the Boy Scouts of America djacq Jul 2018 #24
The ones who participated in the assault definitely need to be bounced out of Scouts. Jedi Guy Jul 2018 #45
Troop 76 from Alabama. Somehow I'm not surprised. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #21
It's the new normal--being able to say and do whatever you want....n/t mtngirl47 Jul 2018 #22
This started with his speech to the boy scouts last year LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #23
So girls in the Boy Scouts is bad but racists are good. dem4decades Jul 2018 #25
Fuck the boy scouts. JI7 Jul 2018 #28
Is there a new... 3catwoman3 Jul 2018 #30
One wonders what kinds of knots Troop 76 learned to tie... N/T Jedi Guy Jul 2018 #46
Scouts were wearing "Make America Great Again" caps dalton99a Jul 2018 #31
I hope those little mother fuckers get booted out of the Scouts for the rest of their fucking, BigDemVoter Jul 2018 #32
How Horrible! Mickju Jul 2018 #35
They should all Rebl2 Jul 2018 #36
Not too proud to be an american.... NOMOGOP Jul 2018 #38
Acorn fall close to the 🌲 dembotoz Jul 2018 #41
wtf? - maybe thery're working toward the new trump/Nazi merrit badge? - n/t Locrian Jul 2018 #42
So much for the Boy Scout Oath. n/t malthaussen Jul 2018 #43
Welcome to Trump's America. Initech Jul 2018 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author SharonClark Jul 2018 #48
To the young Ethiopian-American Boy Scout CRK7376 Jul 2018 #49
Crazy ck4829 Jul 2018 #50

ailsagirl

(22,893 posts)
1. I can't BELIEVE how this "behavior" is becoming the "new normal"-- just because of you-know-who
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 05:18 PM
Jul 2018

I grew up in a university town, where people from lots of different countries attended the college. I never thought anything about it-- sure, there were differences among us but it was interesting, not threatening. WTF

This is so disturbing

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
2. NormalIZED because of him
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 05:24 PM
Jul 2018

Now they say it out loud.

But it looks like the underlying attitude has been around much longer.

(and never went out of style in certain parts of the country)

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
26. NO, not just 'certain parts of the country'. There are hateful bigots everywhere.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 06:58 PM
Jul 2018

I currently live in the south, and have also lived in the north. Sadly I've witnessed bigotry everywhere I've been, it's not just concentrated in one part of the country.

It's clear that bigots are showing their asses much more freely now that one of their own occupies the White House.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
27. You certainly can't compare college students to adolescent boys.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 07:05 PM
Jul 2018

MY daughter took a rock to the head in a similar situation,a day camp,when she was 12----she still has the scar and she is in her 50s.

It was racial,it was nasty,and it was a loooong time ago.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
37. totally agree
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 08:47 PM
Jul 2018

the opposite of what a leader should be doing. Great leaders - REAL leaders – lift people up to their higher selves.
You-know-who does the opposite: he brings out the worst in our citizens, and debases everyone who is associated with him.
The worst of the worst.
I can't believe that ~40% of our citizens STILL approve of the "job" he is doing. It should be 4%.

Yes, disturbing, for sure.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
3. Disgusting
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 05:25 PM
Jul 2018

. Their parents should be ashamed and nipthat unacceptable behavior in the bud. And someone from a council office should be reviewing this. Kick these little hatemoners out of the organization.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
14. Probably so
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 05:51 PM
Jul 2018

And I'm sure there were probably high fives from some moms and dads upon learning of junior's antics. They should still be ashamed

I guess scouts has changed a lot since I was in and I suppose every troop is different. Most of the boys in my troop were misfits like I was. We didn't act like this. My dad was scout master and he'd have knocked me one had I behaved this way.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
52. You've got to be carefully taught
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jul 2018


You've got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You've got to be taught
From year to year,
It's got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.

You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff'rent shade,
You've got to be carefully taught

tblue37

(65,273 posts)
51. Awarding points, probably. These kids learn from adults what is acceptable in their social group. nt
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jul 2018

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
16. I went to scout camp in the mid 80s
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 05:55 PM
Jul 2018

Three different years. There was a lot of free time without adults around. We went to caves and hiked around the camp. There were organized activities, but nobody went to everyhing.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
10. Uh, seems like this troop should be removed by the Boy Scouts,
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 05:42 PM
Jul 2018

they are missing some basics of the program.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
18. "A Scout is..."
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 06:05 PM
Jul 2018

"...Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, Reverent...and Racist."

Aristus

(66,310 posts)
33. No. Cabaret.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 07:49 PM
Jul 2018

I used to think this was a Hitler Youth anthem. Turns out it was written specifically for the stage musical, by a Jewish songwriter, no less.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
34. Gets a point across though
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 08:01 PM
Jul 2018

I think Trumps America is well on the path to a fascist theocratic dictatorship.

Maybe Herr Trump will achieve his dream of being president for life after all.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
20. The whole of Troop 76 need to be tossed out of the Scouts and the Scout Master needs to be fired!
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 06:21 PM
Jul 2018

I am terrified for my kids, my grandkids and my (brand new) great-grandkid! I don't think we going to make it to the next Congress and even if we do, unless we get both the House and the Senate, it won't do us much good.

Sorry, feeling pessimistic today.

djacq

(1,633 posts)
24. Contact the Chief Scout Executive of the Boy Scouts of America
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 06:49 PM
Jul 2018

[link:https://twitter.com/bsachief?lang=en|

If that doesn't work;

National Service Center
Mailing Address: PO Box 152079, Irving, TX 75015-2079

Physical Address: 1325 W. Walnut Hill Lane, Irving, TX 75038

Office Phone: 972-580-2000

Questions or comments: MyScouting@scouting.org

Media inquiries: PR@scouting.org


Demand a Response!

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
45. The ones who participated in the assault definitely need to be bounced out of Scouts.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 01:57 PM
Jul 2018

The ones who weren't involved should be reassigned to other troops as appropriate and Troop 76 disbanded. The kids who weren't involved, but just had the misfortune to be in the troop with these little assclowns, should be permitted to continue participating in the Scouts, in my opinion. It's unfair to punish the entire group unless the entire group took part in the assault.

Whether he was actively involved or just turned a blind eye, the Scoutmaster should be formally censured by the national organization, stripped of any commendations he's received, and then bounced out of Scouts as well. He was supposed to be acting as a role model for these kids, and he clearly failed miserably. He was also supposed to be supervising these kids, so at the absolute bare minimum he was negligent.

Apart from consequences in the Boy Scouts, the kids who took part in this incident should face criminal charges as appropriate. I'd say assault at the very least, potentially assault with a deadly weapon, since thrown rocks can kill. Then there are potential hate crimes and civil rights issues.

It's beyond depressing that we've reached a place where children are committing assault and hate crimes, but here we are. I don't blame you for feeling pessimistic. But as my dad says, "Where there's life, there's hope of change." Keep your chin up, if not for your own sake, then for your kids, grandkids and new great-grandkid. We'll get through this together, as Americans!

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
21. Troop 76 from Alabama. Somehow I'm not surprised.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 06:36 PM
Jul 2018

Even with the rest of the union to help it along, Alabama has got a wheel in the ditch.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,168 posts)
23. This started with his speech to the boy scouts last year
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 06:41 PM
Jul 2018

In which he bragged about a rich friends sexual predilections, and disparaged the former AA President. He made it clear to any of the bullies, or indoctrinated children of Trump voters, that its OK to be a bully, to be a racist.

dalton99a

(81,428 posts)
31. Scouts were wearing "Make America Great Again" caps
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 07:28 PM
Jul 2018
https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2018/06/alabama_boy_scouts_bully_son_o.html

AL.com met in person with the teen who was bullied in Alpharetta this week, and spoke to his mother. They asked not to be named, but the mother confirmed that rocks were thrown and her son was called a racial epithet.

Some Scouts - not the ones from Alabama - were wearing "Make America Great Again" caps at the camp, she said. President Donald Trump campaigned on that slogan and often used harsh rhetoric against immigrants.

Dr. Rob Spiegel, a Birmingham physician who is the scoutmaster for Troop 76, affiliated with Liberty Crossings United Methodist Church, said the mid-June incident at Camp Woodruff is being overblown.

"Things happen at camp," Spiegel said. "There's a lot of misinformation."

He denied that members of Troop 76 threw rocks at a black Boy Scout from Troop 10.

"The rocks are not accurate," Spiegel said.

Spiegel said he spoke to the Boy Scout who was allegedly bullied. "I talked to that child," he said.

Asked if Scouts from Troop 76 had used the 'N-word," Spiegel declined to confirm or deny that allegation.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
32. I hope those little mother fuckers get booted out of the Scouts for the rest of their fucking,
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 07:43 PM
Jul 2018

worthless lives. In any case, they have to live in Alabama which is pretty severe punishment in my book. Sorry to any liberal, nice Alabamians.

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

CRK7376

(2,199 posts)
49. To the young Ethiopian-American Boy Scout
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 09:41 AM
Jul 2018

from an old Eagle Scout, "I'm sorry for your camp experience." Unfortunately we have racists in the BSA and troops and troop leaders can be stupid from time to time. Oftentimes, the boys tend to emulate their adult leaders and older Scouts. In this case the Alabama troop was offensive and contrary to all we try to teach and lead young men and now young women to become, how we teach about good citizenship and to "help other people at all times". The troop I grew up in would not have tolerated this behavior or attitude. The troop my two Eagle Scout sons grew up in would have defended the young Ethiopian-American Scout. My eldest son was picked on at his first summer camp by some kids from another troop and the older boys in our troop defended Zach and the bullying stopped. They didn't include our Scoutmasters, but the adults knew our kids had protected and took up for my son. Maybe not a perfect solution, but it turned out ok for my son.

Much of our current lack of civility in America is a direct result of President Trumps words, and actions. He has allowed the racists to spout utter trash and loathing on a constant basis for any and all people that are different. What President Trump spoke at last summers Nation Jamboree was horrific, embarassing and not at all in step with the meanings, values, and standards we in the BSA hold. He has no morals or redeemable values. He is trying to burn down our nation one day at a time. He will not succeed, because there are good men and women across our nation that will eventually beat this disgusting human being. Take heart young Ethiopian-American Scout, not all Scouts and Scout Troops are racist. You are welcomed to my North Carolina troop anytime.

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