Christie: GOP shouldn't have to condescend to women

[trailmonkee]

Source: cbs news

(CBS News) A new CBS News poll shows President Obama with a 10-point advantage over Mitt Romney among women, but New Jersey's Republican Gov. Chris Christie said his party shouldn't have to shift its message to win over women voters.

"I think there's a fallacy about having to cater to a particular sector of the electorate," Christie said on "CBS This Morning" Tuesday. "I think its condescending to women to say we have to have a different message for women than we have with men."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57501502/christie-gop-shouldnt-have-to-condescend-to-women/

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Looks like the appointed genius is an idiot too?

[Raine1967]

1. Wow, They aren't even trying anymore....

Everyone knows the worst kept secret of the GOP is that women need to subjacate to men. They used to at least pretend otherwise.

[davidpdx]

2. Keep talking Twinkie

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With that kind of an attitude we'll make sure YOU don't have 4 more years in office.

Edit: My remarks have been revised and updated to make it clear what I meant.

[Stuckinthebush]

5. You made me guffaw

Twinkie!

[davidpdx]

22. I like calling him Crisco Christie as well

There are so many different things to call him.

[Iris]

95. me, too!

[alp227]

70. Isn't this kind of joke as bad as Daniel Tosh's rape joke?

I personally have zero tolerance for any jokes about rape or death.

[davidpdx]

73. I think you misunderstood my intent

I called him fat and said that we would defeat him in the next election. Yes, it's mean spirited. No, it's not as bad as what you are comparing it to.

[alp227]

80. oh i see, you should've included "in office" nt

[Iggy]

88. Christie is totally mean spirited, arrogant, obtuse

If you can't take the same sort of criticism you dole out on a daily basis toward others, then don't do it.

Christie and the GOD party, errrr, the GOP, are constantly judging less fortunate people in a very
personal way. if fatso doesn't want to be criticized, then grow a heart and start having some empathy
for people less fortunate than his dumb ass.

[davidpdx]

94. I think you replied to the wrong post

I was criticizing Christie not praising him.

[still_one]

3. sounds good to me christie. your sexist party has been putting women as second class citizens for

years

[Laurian]

4. Damn, they just can't help it....

They cannot adjust their feelings of male superiority, even in election season. As a woman, I now judge all R's the same - misogynists.

[randr]

6. Said while catering to the American Taliban

[greatauntoftriplets]

7. Ummmm, Christie, you ass...

women are 50 percent of the electorate.

[tavalon]

32. 52%, actually

But only the truly stupid of us would vote for the asswipes that the GOP have become.

[greatauntoftriplets]

51. 52 percent is even better.

[demwing]

79. 52% Ass?

Yeah. I can see that!

[trailmonkee]

8. does this mean that gop platform on abortion applies even if a man gets pregnant by rape?

[RC]

9. But they do have a different message for men, than for women

Christie said on "CBS This Morning" Tuesday. "I think its condescending to women to say we have to have a different message for women than we have with men."

They want to deny needed health care for women. The find excuses for not having equal pay for equal work. And the list goes on.

[Jackpine Radical]

28. I read this to mean that they don't want to have to

cook up a whole separare passel of lies for men and for women and then try to keep each sex from tuning in on the lies designed for the other gender. I can see where that would get kinda complicated.

[warrior1]

10. "I think its condescending to women to say we have to have a different message for women than we hav

Clearly he hasn't been paying attention to the messaging from the gop or he just like the sound of his voice. He's trying to say that they treat us all the same, the same as rich white men or who else because rich white men seem to be able to do any damn thing they want.

[goclark]

19. My view is they are SURE they can steal

the election so they tell us whatever they feel like saying...the fix is in!
What are we doing about suppression? ???
Last time I checked ....Nothing!!!!

[Why Syzygy]

33. If you get a look

at some of the awful photos of Willard that the corporate media has been putting up, it doesn't look like a steal to me.
They are making him look 'ugly'.

[chknltl]

11. These guys are trying to lose the election aren't they.

Well..... let Christie's opinion be tied to the Republican Party and to the Mittster campaign too, then let this all go viral! Further evidence that the GOP has no use for women as members of the electorate who think for themselves.

[Flashmann]

13. These guys are trying to lose the election aren't they.

When you plan to steal another election,and are reasonably sure you'll pull it off,again,what does it matter if some voters are alienated?

[chknltl]

65. in order to steal it via election fraud....

The Romney campaign, in order to keep the Tea Party and the right wing bigots/racists energized have pissed on Blacks, Hispanics, the elderly and women.

It is true that the GOP is perpetrating election fraud via voter disenfranchisement but that is only one form of election fraud they are using. They are also counting on rigging the ballot tabulators (diebold and etc.), in key areas.

In order to steal an election via this kind of fraud, they have to get it somewhat close. Had GW Bush pushed away the women votes exactly like this Al Gore would have won by a margin insurmountable by the election fraud used back then.

This time around We The People are much much more aware of the GOP election fraud tactics. They are mobilizing to get the disenfranchised re-enfranchised wherever they can.

The Obama administration is also pushing back where it can too. (Yes we wish it were more but to say it is not doing enough is to suggest that President Obama plans on losing the election!).

Proof that the Romney campaign is concerned will come after the RNC is over. They will then try to recoup those they pushed away starting with the women vote. Personally I think they have done too much damage there.

Overall, this election should be an overwhelming landslide for President Obama imho. The GOP and their handlers will be cheating their asses off in order to keep it close. Even though they will likely lose, by keeping things close they seek to keep up the illusion of a nation almost evenly divided. Otherwise, as many predict, a landslide loss by the GOP will cause a cascade effect that fragments the party into two or more factions, emasculating it as a political force for decades to come.

[malthaussen]

12. Exactly what the Ohio SOS said in re black voters.

Anybody notice?

-- Mal

[ProfessionalLeftist]

14. Well they don't mind having different pay for men than women, why not a different message

Hmm?

They don't mind having different laws for women than men, why not a different message? I don't see nearly as many laws telling MEN what they can or cannot do with their reproductive organs or their bodies.

Isn't it interesting that these Republicans are willing to put a lot of effort into CONTROLLING women, but very little into COMMUNICATING with them?

I think so.

[sarcasmo]

15. Keep talking crazy, keep losing elections.

[MrsMuir]

16. How are "women's" issues different from "men's" issues?

Don't men love and care for the women in their lives? Don't men care about being able to plan how many children they will have?
Wouldn't a man care if his wife or girlfriend can get a safe abortion if the two of them face a pregnancy that the two of them don't want for whatever reason (rape, health of the mother, or other reason that the two of them have come to agree on)?

[djean111]

29. Not all of them, no.

Just look at all the abandoned children and raped women.
A man can care, but it is not his body.

[leftynyc]

30. When the pubs start trying

to legislate and control the reproduction lives of men, we'll have this silly conversation. Until then newbie, sit back and read - you may actually learn something.

[alittlelark]

77. How are they different, let me count the ways....

I got to about 40...

[Vietnameravet]

17. He's right

We should not have a different message to woman than we have to men. Next time a man is raped and gets pregnant we should deny him an abortion as well.

There now isn't that fair!!

[DavidL]

18. But Christie, dear, you have a lousy message for...

BOTH men and women!

[Did I Just Type This]

20. This would make a hilarious documentary, if...

this were taking place in another country. It is now condescending to listen to a woman's view on her own health and well being? The republicans have gone well beyond "out of touch". They are now entering the "bat shit crazy" zone. Any woman that votes for these ass clowns is a traitor to her own gender and to the overall benefit of all man kind.

[barbtries]

21. that's no surprise.

he looks like the epitome of patriarchy to me. and he's a fucking bully and proud of it. ugh.

[tsuki]

23. You go, Christie. Spread that message. I know two

Republican women who are voting Gary Johnson because they have granddaughters.

[tclambert]

24. That part where he talked about catering left out a few words.

"I think there's a fallacy about having to cater to a particular sector of the electorate, who aren't rich."

(Hey, I coulda gone for the fat joke, what with him talking about catering.)

[newfie11]

25. How in the hell does his wife tolerate this shit

He would have been long gone in my life!

[dballance]

26. Go for it GOP Dough Boy. Insulting the electorate is a prize for GOP idiots.

[CTyankee]

27. keep it up, christie, and you'll find your fat ass in a Dem campaign commercial...

at your snarling worst...I hope the Dems do a BRUTAL takedown of this guy...

[Iggy]

31. ANY Photos of Christie's Wife out There?

Is she a big, fat tub of goo like him??

if not, she's probably on him re: losing weight... fat men generally don't like being told to lose
weight by their wives... thus the need to blurt his latest crap out-- basically saying "we rich
white guys aren't going to be bossed around by women"...

[jsr]

34. Here:

[SunSeeker]

50. Wow. She must really be, um, fearless...and sturdy.

[AtheistCrusader]

54. Thanks for all the fat jokes guys.

'preciate it.

Why don't you stick to his abhorrent politics, and leave the playground fat jokes at the door?

[alp227]

71. +1, if Chris squared were a democrat,

All those fat jokes posts would be hidden. Astonishing how authoritarian bigotry has seeped into our side.

[Iggy]

86. CORRECT.. and let's face it:

the GOP totally believes in tearing people down for the "bad choices" they made in life-- as IF it's
soooo easy to always know what to do-- at every moment in one's life.

Christie being grossly obese is fair game IMHO. he made a choice which happens to be very
obvious.

[Iggy]

85. I Generally Would Agree

however, clownservatives have no mercy or empathy.. so why should I?

aren't they constantly judging every single poor person in our nation-- stating they are ALL that
way simply due to the "poor/bad" choices they made in life?

if Christie is a glutton, he is grossly overweight- not due to a health issue, then IMHO that is fair
game for criticism. he has made a very poor choice-- to be fat. that's wrong.

[goclark]

55. How much does Chrispy weight?!

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I could take off a few lbs. myself but he is way up there.


It takes a lot of energy to do his job ~

If that is his wife, she must be a really special lady to endure that evil man.

[BlueStreak]

35. He's absolutely right. That is Romney's problem on EVERYTHING

He has a different message for every audience -- often varying by 180 degrees. He will say anything.

The GOP's "woman problem", however, isn't an issue of mixed messages. The "woman problem" is that millions of women are seeing through the messaging.

[Heather MC]

36. Translation: Girls are Icky and I don't want to talk to them!!!!!

[CanonRay]

37. The GOP message is "Get back to the kitchen"

[abelenkpe]

38. Why would any self respecting woman vote republican?

"I think its condescending to women to say we have to have a different message for women than we have with men."


Yeah keep thinking that. Women love the idea that men want to regulate their uterus by denying them abortions even in cases of rape and incest, tell them not to use birth control, teach them only abstinence, favor letting insurance companies charge women more, then make it impossible for the poor women who live in such a world to support the kids they are forced to have by not supporting a women's right to equal pay for equal work. Women get it. Republicans hate them. You don't need to condesend to us. you've already alienated most.

[Zambero]

39. OK, Hand over those contraceptives, NOW!

Wow conservatives, that feels so RIGHT! Let's try another one: "OK, non-legitimate rape whiners, cue up and pay up for that invasive ultrasound procedure you've brought upon yourself". Just one more! "Get back to work, don't forget the coffee, and stop whining about being underpaid!". Hey, it's just GREAT not being condescending to women!

[AlbertCat]

40. a particular sector of the electorate

That's, what? a 51% sector of the electorate. Nah... they don't need them!

[christx30]

44. He's doing a

really great job energizing the electorate to getting out there and voting on election day. I can't wait to cast my vote for any D on the ballot. I'm terrified of those guys and I want as many of them unemployed as possible.
I think voting for them would be condescending. It gives the message that no matter how stupid you are, you'll get my vote. They should practice vocal abstinence. Shut up and you won't screw yourself.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

41. WooHoo!!! You tell 'em Chris!

You CAN dig your way out of that hole! Shovel faster!

[JDPriestly]

42. Republicans should put Chris Christie in charge of outreach to women because well

. . . . he's so goodlookin'. Don'cha thaink?

[DallasNE]

43. Actually

The Romney people focus group tested messaging found that the line about "nobody asks me for my birth certificate" and people on welfare are Obama's "base" played equally well with both white males and white females. It also rips off the scab showing Romney is running an openly racist campaign and what an ugly, disgusting creature Romeny really is.

[trailmonkee]

58. a nasty bunch indeed

[iemitsu]

64. and what ugly disgusting people who vote republican are.

both men and women evidently.

[KarenS]

45. and this woman doesn't want them to condescend,,,,

Just be who you are gentlemen, just be who you are.

[krispos42]

46. He does realize that men don't have uteri, correct?

I mean, I know he's a Repube, but he's not THAT dumb... is he?

[Sparkly]

52. They have fallacies.

[wordpix]

63. fallacial tubes, right?

[Sparkly]

67. Like phalluses? Fallacies?

Well, I thought it was funny.

[pink-o]

74. Me too!

[6502]

47. "2 + 2 = 5"...

doubleplusungood.

[valerief]

48. Do they have this election tied up in a bow or what? It sure seems it by their arrogance. nt

[Jennicut]

49. It's condescending for women to be treated like second class citizens

per the Repubs views on birth control, abortion, rape, etc.

[Kingofalldems]

53. Hey Gov---Have another donut

[Myrina]

56. "I think there's a fallacy about having to cater to a particular sector of the electorate,"

... but it's totally ok to pander to the talibornagain racist millionaire loonies.

[siligut]

57. Pulling out all the stops

Blatantly behaving badly, not even attempting to hide it anymore.

[kimbutgar]

59. Wait until they start calling for Women to lose their voting rights because they can't be trusted to

vote. I hope Fat boy Chris's words are used against him someday. What a jerk!

[sinkingfeeling]

60. Really? Tell me is that belly on you really a pregnancy?

[jeff47]

61. Here's the thing: You aren't supposed to have a different message for women

Women are rejecting the Republican platform. That doesn't mean you have a different message for women. That means your platform needs to change.

[wordpix]

62. no, don't cater to women by giving them choice and adhering to Roe v. Wade

which is the law of the land right now

[Odd Won Out]

66. How ironic. Christie is a Jedi Knight of condescension

The next time I hear him speak without being condescending will be the first.

[tartan2]

68. spoken by a true blue white man!!!

[alp227]

69. What's up with those right wing dimbulbs with repeating names?

Gov. Chris Christie
Erick Erickson, RedState.com editor and CNN contributor
Lars Larson, RW radio host from Portland, Oregon with both a local and national show
Hugh Hewitt, radio host with the fundie Salem Radio Network
Peter Peterson, Secretary of Commerce under Nixon and austerity advocate

[CrispyQ]

72. Madison Avenue is laughing their ass off! --nt

[sofa king]

75. Condescension is assumed.

[Xipe Totec]

76. Christie, take your fallacy and stick it where the sun don't shine nt

[orpupilofnature57]

78. It wold be Honest to say to women. " you have three functions "

Serve, please and obey men.

[liberalmuse]

81. This reminds me of a story...

I heard from a lady once. Her husband used to tell her she had to vote Republican because if she didn't, her vote would cancel his vote out. Guess how she voted when she got into the booth? I'd love to see a lot of 'subjugated' 'Republican' women do the same and have a feeling many will.

[davidn3600]

90. That is a rare occurrence

The reality of the matter is that not all women are feminists. And it's silly to pretend that they are. Women like Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, or Nikki Haley are not going into the voting booth and secretly voting for Obama. I can assure you that is not going to happen. Let's be realistic.

[newspeak]

93. well, you're right about that

there are women who hate their own sex. A good book to read is "the secret of Joy". it's about girl circumcision in africa. In the book, it is women performing the painful procedure on girls, sometimes with nothing but a piece of broken glass. women who sew them up so that they can't enjoy sex-only men are supposed to have that honor.

Sometimes, we have some women who act all tough, like one of the boys; because they want to be one of the boys. Then, you have some women who only want to go through life with someone else in charge or want to be taken care of; and some women have just been bullied, abused at an early age to just accept their "place."

and, if that's the way they think, it's fine by me; as long as they don't attempt to thrust their beliefs on me or any females in my family.

So, we're "feminists" because we believe in human rights. I see, jane adams must also have been a "feminist."

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

82. Looks like Christie has a fat head to match his body.

Let me make it simple for you Blubbo. Your party is trying to supress women's reproductive rights. Furthermore many men like myself support those rights.

[muntrv]

83. Another reminder as to why I call him Eric Cartman.

[sakabatou]

84. Should've told the RNC that decades ago.

[Ken Burch]

87. At this point, the Republiban has the same message for everybody:

"If you're not in the 1%, we'd rather see you dead".

[trailmonkee]

91. I thought you were going to say:

Fuck You!

[Monk06]

89. That 'particular sector of the electorate' is half the population of the country not some special

interest group.

It's boors like Christie and Akins et al who are going to make it easy for Obama in the home streach.

They really do have contempt for women not just women's issues and their shouting it to the world in this convention.

It's Texas Holdem and the TeaFascists are betting their whole roll.

[Lucy Goosey]

92. Well, I do find Ann Romney pretty fucking condescending

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...but I know that's not what Christie is saying.