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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 10:42 PM Jul 2018

A Property Manager Was Fired For Calling The Cops On A Black Man For Wearing Socks In The Pool

Source: Buzzfeed

Camry Porter, a resident of the Riverset Apartments complex in Memphis, Tennessee, posted a video of the July 4th incident on Facebook.

Porter, who goes by Kam on the social media platform, said she was at her building's pool with her boyfriend and two godchildren. Her boyfriend was sitting at the pool's edge, watching the children in the water, with his feet dangling in the water while wearing socks.

A woman, whom Porter said she'd noticed "constantly watching us and whispering amongst her friends" from the time they arrived at the pool, approached them. The property manager, who Porter said was named Erica Walker, told them that socks, hats, and t-shirts were not permitted in the water. She told them she's the property manager and Porter's boyfriend had to take his socks off.

... soon a police officer showed up. Porter said Walker accused her of "disturb[ing] the peace" by recording their interaction.
In the video of the police encounter, the officer appeared to defuse the situation and not take any further action so "everybody's 4th of July is not ruined."

Read more: https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinstein/apartment-manager-fired-called-police-pool-socks-black?bfsplash&utm_term=.dybM5L4yGn#.ikd0kMoDqz



In a Facebook post on Friday, Riverset Apartments said "Ms. Walker was terminated immediately" after they investigated the incident, and that they "do not support discrimination of any kind."
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A Property Manager Was Fired For Calling The Cops On A Black Man For Wearing Socks In The Pool (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jul 2018 OP
Behold the emboldened racist: Scurrilous Jul 2018 #1
look at the smug smirk Takket Jul 2018 #3
There seems to be a "type." Blonde, overweight, and superior. mainer Jul 2018 #17
I'd noticed the same thing re the pattern of overweight women. The superior Joe Chi Minh Jul 2018 #25
Having a little sexism with your outrage? SharonClark Jul 2018 #50
Simple observation. There is only so much you can fantasize into your own personal Joe Chi Minh Jul 2018 #59
Someone down thread called her the JustAnotherGen Jul 2018 #53
Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #46
You might want a post of picture of yourself so we can see if you are SharonClark Jul 2018 #51
you my want to edit your post juxtaposed Jul 2018 #52
The new age of trump nwduke Jul 2018 #2
always been ok hidden but there and many times this blatent but because AllaN01Bear Jul 2018 #4
What better role model than the President of the United States? dalton99a Jul 2018 #41
This is an entirely wrong reason to call cops Bettie Jul 2018 #5
really? heaven05 Jul 2018 #19
I ask people about things I don't understand Bettie Jul 2018 #29
No harm to ask heaven05 Jul 2018 #36
Exactly, I ask about things I find unsual Bettie Jul 2018 #40
Except that it's none of your business or theirs Bob Loblaw Jul 2018 #38
But the hats were ok right? And the tshirts as well...the manager was fired so I would consider Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #30
No, the rules should be enforced on everyone or no one Bettie Jul 2018 #33
He wasn't swimming first of all and she didn't just ask...and I saw all sorts of get ups in the Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #34
Firing her was absolutely the right thing to do Bettie Jul 2018 #35
I agree...good for the apartment complex. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #45
And just good to remind people Bettie Jul 2018 #48
Very true. I am sure the woman involved is shocked that she was fired over Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #49
This shit is going to far...people being profiled simply because they are black, brown, muslim, gay, iluvtennis Jul 2018 #6
I have noticed it is a lot women who are doing the calling (of police). I am not riversedge Jul 2018 #56
Yep. Women. The old stereotype of clutching their pocketbooks if a iluvtennis Jul 2018 #57
Earth to deplorables: Stop acting like a racist asshole in public - your employer might not like it. dalton99a Jul 2018 #7
This is weird on so many levels. Gore1FL Jul 2018 #8
I would think the fiber from socks could mess up the filtration system over time. RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #9
And that would be true. Any fiber that sheds could be a problem. pnwmom Jul 2018 #10
It doesn't mess up the filter at all. This woman is what we call a pool Nazi...and she doesn't Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #31
"They don't mess up the filter at all" RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #42
Not sure why she would care... I also wondered the same thing about wearing socks xor Jul 2018 #11
someone afraid heaven05 Jul 2018 #20
Swim socks? mwooldri Jul 2018 #43
He probably should have been arrested. JohnnyRingo Jul 2018 #12
Appropriate response by cop bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #13
I wouldn't want to swim in a pool that people with socks regularly swim in. Trust Buster Jul 2018 #14
You'd call the police ? If you feel Joe Chi Minh Jul 2018 #15
The OP states that the request was made and ignored. Trust Buster Jul 2018 #16
really heaven05 Jul 2018 #21
Agree on the feet. My children would never be able to get in the community iluvtennis Jul 2018 #58
You have a strange idea of a polite request. Very strange. Moreover, you seem to Joe Chi Minh Jul 2018 #23
Good...and I am glad she was fired. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #32
Sock sweat is the least of your concern in a pool NickB79 Jul 2018 #22
Socks, right. LanternWaste Jul 2018 #55
trump encouraged and enabled heaven05 Jul 2018 #18
Dangling feet in the pool while wearing socks and being black. milestogo Jul 2018 #24
... while registering a discernable pulse without expressing a scintilla of remorse. Joe Chi Minh Jul 2018 #26
Hmmm... Mike Nelson Jul 2018 #27
Maybe the poor guy thinks his feet aren't pretty. SallyHemmings Jul 2018 #28
Maybe the concrete around the pool was hot and he wanted wet socks. panader0 Jul 2018 #37
Bingo!!! Ikeoftheprairie Jul 2018 #39
I was thinking embarrassed about bad-looking toe nails. Lars39 Jul 2018 #54
Nothing like ruining a 4th of July by calling the police for some minor infringement. Hmm. YOHABLO Jul 2018 #44
The ACLU opposes consequences for 911 call abuse IronLionZion Jul 2018 #47
She didn't call the cops over socks. She called them MineralMan Jul 2018 #60

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
1. Behold the emboldened racist:
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 11:03 PM
Jul 2018
?downsize=715 &output-format=auto&output-quality=auto

Now thankfully unemployed.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
3. look at the smug smirk
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 12:01 AM
Jul 2018

she's enjoying every second of this...............

wearing sox in the pool... while black

mainer

(12,022 posts)
17. There seems to be a "type." Blonde, overweight, and superior.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:00 AM
Jul 2018

That "type" seems to crop up again and again among those making these calls.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
25. I'd noticed the same thing re the pattern of overweight women. The superior
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:07 AM
Jul 2018

attitude goes without saying, though 'arrogant' is more like it.

As for hair-colour thiough, there seem to be more blondes in Edinburgh than in Scandinavia, so I wouldn't set too much store on that. One day, perhapos, you'll have an offence as we do, in the UK, of wasting police time. As for the artificial fibre thing, I think it might take a couple more ice-ages before a filter got clogged up by them.

JustAnotherGen

(31,817 posts)
53. Someone down thread called her the
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jul 2018

Pool Nazi.

That evokes a lot without getting slammed for telling the truth.

Response to Scurrilous (Reply #1)

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
51. You might want a post of picture of yourself so we can see if you are
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:42 PM
Jul 2018

not ugly, not fat, and not white, and 10 years old.

The sexism runs deep on DU.

AllaN01Bear

(18,187 posts)
4. always been ok hidden but there and many times this blatent but because
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 12:13 AM
Jul 2018

of dear leader its now acceptable. hem

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
5. This is an entirely wrong reason to call cops
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 12:17 AM
Jul 2018

but I have to admit, I'd have asked them what's up with wearing socks in the pool.

I've never seen anyone do that, white, black, or otherwise.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
29. I ask people about things I don't understand
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:37 AM
Jul 2018

and I usually get an answer. I'm polite and friendly, but sometimes humans do things that confuse me, so I ask.

No harm in asking.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
36. No harm to ask
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:46 AM
Jul 2018

the foul comes when missy or massa don't get compliance or are ignored from and by those insolent, uppity, pesky brown people, I think.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
40. Exactly, I ask about things I find unsual
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:27 AM
Jul 2018

odd or whatever.

If the person says "yeah, I don't want to discuss it" I leave it, but usually they'll tell me why they do the thing.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
38. Except that it's none of your business or theirs
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:58 AM
Jul 2018

Maybe he's got tattoos on his feet from his youth that he now regrets that say "F**k Whitey" and he doesn't want to offend anyone. Maybe he's got some really nasty looking toenails that drug manufacturers' marketing people have convinced him he should be ashamed of. Maybe he's missing a few toes and he knows that makes people uncomfortable. Why is it anyone's business other than his own that he's decided to leave his feet covered in the pool?

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
30. But the hats were ok right? And the tshirts as well...the manager was fired so I would consider
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:51 AM
Jul 2018

carefully how one addresses such an issue...every person who has engaged in this sort of what I consider racist behavior has lost their jobs...good riddance. The tolerance level for POC is way lower than for white people...the video showed that some were partying with what appeared to be alcohol...a clear and serious violation of the rules. This was also ignored. There are video of this incident.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
33. No, the rules should be enforced on everyone or no one
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:54 AM
Jul 2018

I'm just saying that I, personally, would ask someone (anyone) wearing socks in a pool why. It's just unusual enough that I'd ask.

It has nothing to do with the cops or the rules, just curiosity at what seems to me to be an odd behavior.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
34. He wasn't swimming first of all and she didn't just ask...and I saw all sorts of get ups in the
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:18 AM
Jul 2018

water when I viewed the video... I disagree completely. The racist like this woman use the rules to torment POC and it needs to stop...firing her was a good move.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
35. Firing her was absolutely the right thing to do
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:19 AM
Jul 2018

maybe if enough people get fired for being racist assholes they'll stop doing it.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
48. And just good to remind people
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:09 PM
Jul 2018

that there are still acceptable standards of behavior, no matter how some of our government officials would suggest otherwise.

Not that those who truly need that message will ever understand it.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
49. Very true. I am sure the woman involved is shocked that she was fired over
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:39 PM
Jul 2018

the treatment of a POC. Trump says it is OK...probably waiting for his promised funds to defend herself...she is one of the 'good people' like in Charlottesville (sarcasm).

iluvtennis

(19,852 posts)
6. This shit is going to far...people being profiled simply because they are black, brown, muslim, gay,
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 12:26 AM
Jul 2018

etc. What a sad state of affairs that has created under Trump. Sickening

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
56. I have noticed it is a lot women who are doing the calling (of police). I am not
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 05:57 PM
Jul 2018

keeping tabs but seems most are women-

iluvtennis

(19,852 posts)
57. Yep. Women. The old stereotype of clutching their pocketbooks if a
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 06:38 PM
Jul 2018

Black man was walking by on the streets oe entered an elevator. Now with Trump
They can be explicit and say shit like they did in the Jim Crow times

Gore1FL

(21,130 posts)
8. This is weird on so many levels.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 01:31 AM
Jul 2018

Who cares if someone is wearing socks in in a pool.
Who wears socks in a pool?

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
9. I would think the fiber from socks could mess up the filtration system over time.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 01:41 AM
Jul 2018

Same with t-shirts and regular pants and shorts, if everyone gets away with it.

Just tell them not to do it. Pretty simple.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
10. And that would be true. Any fiber that sheds could be a problem.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 01:59 AM
Jul 2018

The issue, though, was the the manager was only enforcing the rule against the black couple.

From the OP article:

Porter told BuzzFeed News she didn't have a problem with Walker asking her boyfriend to take his socks off, but the fact that the rule was not enforced for others at the pool hurt and made her feel like she was being discriminated against.

"She said nothing to the other people that [were] not in proper pool attire but chose to say something only to us, the only black family out there," Porter said in the video.

When Porter asked her for identification that she was indeed the property manager, she said Walker told her, "I’m not about to go back and forward with you. You all need to leave.”

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
31. It doesn't mess up the filter at all. This woman is what we call a pool Nazi...and she doesn't
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:52 AM
Jul 2018

like people of color.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
42. "They don't mess up the filter at all"
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jul 2018

Is that the truth or are you just policing discussion?

A poster asked why that might be a rule and as someone who was once told I can’t wear a T-shirt in a particular pool once I was attempting to answer the possibility because for some reason a lot of pools have these dress codes about extemporaneous clothing.

xor

(1,204 posts)
11. Not sure why she would care... I also wondered the same thing about wearing socks
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 02:01 AM
Jul 2018

but then after a little bit of thought, I realized as a kid I used to wear a t-shirt in the pool because I was self-conscious about taking my shirt off. So perhaps the guy in question has some problems with his feet that make him self-conscious...or maybe he just likes the feeling of wet socks (weird, but whatever) Either way, I fail to see the actual harm that could be had by wearing socks in the pool.

This is just mean bullying and perhaps racially motivated behavior. She's gone from her position as a property manager there. So, maybe she learned not to be a hateful and awful person.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
20. someone afraid
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:34 AM
Jul 2018

of athletes foot? Don't like sandals? A sore foot, muscle or bone? Hell I don't know but, guaranteed in THIS situation, a white person, more than likely, would get a pass with some quietly laughing at an 'eccentricity'. Once these becky's have to start paying financial remuneration to the local police forces for these nuisance calls, they will drop off, I think.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
43. Swim socks?
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 01:47 PM
Jul 2018

They are a thing. Our local water park actually recommends them to be worn in the big wave pool.

Too many kids wore a rubber sock at the swimming pool when I was a kid. Supposedly they had verrucas or something similar.

bucolic_frolic

(43,145 posts)
13. Appropriate response by cop
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:47 AM
Jul 2018

to be commended. Police do have discretionary powers, and training, and are supposed to use sound judgment. I keep hoping the worst is behind us, that reason and reasonableness will assert itself. I really do hope we are there.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
15. You'd call the police ? If you feel
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:15 AM
Jul 2018

so strongly about the 'danger' of socks in a communal swimming pool, and you were the property manager, don't you think that a courteous request should at least be your first recourse, with a brief explanation of your reason ?

iluvtennis

(19,852 posts)
58. Agree on the feet. My children would never be able to get in the community
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 06:45 PM
Jul 2018

Pool if their were feet inspectors.

Besides who cares, once feet / swimsuits / socks come in contact with the cholorine, its all goodness anyway

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
23. You have a strange idea of a polite request. Very strange. Moreover, you seem to
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:49 AM
Jul 2018

consider the lead up to the bigoted martinet's dictat, her watching the man and his family from the moment they appeared and evidently talking about them within a group of presumably like-minded souls*, reflected no racial hatred. Perhaps theyw ere talking about knittng and it was just a coincidence they were all looking at them at the same time.

Is it my imagination or do those pasty-faced, melanin-challenged, poorly-athletically-endowed, anti-black militia types mostly reside in the South ?

*God's judgment may not be far off, and it seems most unlikely that God will look upon blind race hatred with a merciful heart. To despise people on the basis of their colour is to despise God's sense of beauty and his workmanship. It could scarcely be more flagantly blasphemous.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
22. Sock sweat is the least of your concern in a pool
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:39 AM
Jul 2018

You know how much armpit sweat and kiddy piss is in that water? And heaven forbid a toddler in a crap-filled swim diaper gets in.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
18. trump encouraged and enabled
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:27 AM
Jul 2018

this unreasoning and ignorant hate. Yeah. Fired. Good. All these situations are showing me what I've known since my first personal run-in with a white racist in 1967 while training to protect the red, white and so blue. People like this make it plain that racism and hate of POC will ALWAYS be with US. In more or less varying intensity. During intense era's of open racist hate, we can fight, hide, deny, tune out the consequence, turn a blind eye or VOTE FOR anti-facist-anti racist Democratic Party candidates. And do our damnedest to marginalize and drive the trump white nationalists back into the toilets from whence they came.

Oh, the four that came after me so long ago? The biggest one suffered injury, one was hurt. Two others ran and were my friends for the duration of training. Not blowing my horn, just showing that violence is sometimes necessary when dealing with hateful people.

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
27. Hmmm...
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:14 AM
Jul 2018

… I would wonder if the person was trying to hide a foot condition, although people wear shirts in pools... There are worse things that could be hidden under a bathing suit!

SallyHemmings

(1,821 posts)
28. Maybe the poor guy thinks his feet aren't pretty.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:17 AM
Jul 2018

The nonsense was always there but finally the racists are suffering consequences..

panader0

(25,816 posts)
37. Maybe the concrete around the pool was hot and he wanted wet socks.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:55 AM
Jul 2018

I know I've nearly burnt my feet at pools before.

 

Ikeoftheprairie

(7 posts)
39. Bingo!!!
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:11 AM
Jul 2018

Exactly what I was thinking! I don't care for public pools but there is footwear specifically made for pools, hot cement, non-slip, etc. Maybe he just didn't have a pair of those and just used his socks. Lol, socks are probably way down the list of nasties that go into a public pool. At least it sounds like the police acted properly. Not sure if she should have been fired unless she has a history of this type of behavior. Some people, when they get a little bit of authority, go way overboard with it.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
44. Nothing like ruining a 4th of July by calling the police for some minor infringement. Hmm.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 03:19 PM
Jul 2018

I get the socks in the pool thing. It's kind of gross. But no wearing of hats or t-shirts? Sometimes people want to protect themselves from the sun.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
47. The ACLU opposes consequences for 911 call abuse
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:53 PM
Jul 2018

to avoid discouraging people from calling 911.

Good that the socks were not mistaken for a weapon.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
60. She didn't call the cops over socks. She called them
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 01:06 PM
Jul 2018

because a black man didn't "respect her athouritay." And there's the problem in a nutshell. She was offended by a person of color who had his sock feet in the pool water. So, she puffed herself up to look as big as possible and ordered him not to do that. He didn't comply, so she called the police. He was in violation of the law that says that black men have to do what white women tell them to do.

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