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appalachiablue

(41,105 posts)
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:10 PM Jul 2018

Manafort Loses Bid To Stay In 'VIP' Jail, Could Face Evidence From 1980s

Source: Reuters

U.S. President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort may face evidence at trial about alleged wrongdoing in the 1980s and lost a bid to stay at a jail where he said he was being treated like a "VIP," court papers on Wednesday showed.

The developments came as Manafort gets closer to two trials where he will defend himself against a number of charges ranging from bank fraud to failing to register as a foreign agent for lobbying work for pro-Russia politicians in Ukraine.

Manafort's prosecution arose out of U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into possible collusion between Russia and Trump's 2016 presidential campaign. One trial is set for July 25 in Alexandria, Virginia, and the second case in Washington, D.C., has a Sept. 17 trial date.

Judge T.S. Ellis, who is overseeing the Alexandria case, ordered a hearing for Tuesday to weigh motions by Manafort to move the first trial to a more Trump-friendly area of Virginia and to postpone it until after the Washington trial was done...More..


Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manafort-loses-bid-to-stay-in-vip-jail-could-face-evidence-from-1980s/ar-AAzWPbx

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Manafort Loses Bid To Stay In 'VIP' Jail, Could Face Evidence From 1980s (Original Post) appalachiablue Jul 2018 OP
Do you think SCVDem Jul 2018 #1
How is evidence from the 1980s relevant? House of Roberts Jul 2018 #2
He couldn't be prosecuted for most things that old Yonnie3 Jul 2018 #4
Thanks. That's what I needed to hear. House of Roberts Jul 2018 #5
You are welcome. I was going to read it anyways. Yonnie3 Jul 2018 #8
This & more in the article. The professionals involved know the regs. for sure. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #6
Best line, from Judge - gotta read EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2018 #3
That was the best! summer_in_TX Jul 2018 #7
Sssssmackdown! NBachers Jul 2018 #10
I want to see his mug shot .............................. turbinetree Jul 2018 #9
He got caught trying to play a judge. JohnnyRingo Jul 2018 #11
Pardon me for asking, but why are there VIP jails? flibbitygiblets Jul 2018 #12
Info., Manafort term 'VIP" for the Northern Neck, Warsaw, Va. jail. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #13
thanks, I read the article; still wondering why there are private cells with nicer accommodations flibbitygiblets Jul 2018 #14
The DC judge wrote an order on her own DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #15

Yonnie3

(17,422 posts)
4. He couldn't be prosecuted for most things that old
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:33 PM
Jul 2018

the article says

The evidence would be used to show that Manafort had knowledge about the disclosure rules under FARA and that it was not a simple mistake that he did not register for his work for pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine.

Yonnie3

(17,422 posts)
8. You are welcome. I was going to read it anyways.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:43 PM
Jul 2018

It was at the very end of the story.

I seem to recall there are no statute of limitations on tax fraud. I was hoping for that.

appalachiablue

(41,105 posts)
6. This & more in the article. The professionals involved know the regs. for sure.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:40 PM
Jul 2018

'Also on Wednesday, Mueller's office filed a motion in the Washington case notifying the court of its intent to present evidence at trial about a Justice Department inspection into Manafort's lobbying activities in the 1980's. According to the motion, the inspection found eighteen instances of lobbying and public relations activities that should have been disclosed to the Justice Department under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), among other allegations'...

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
3. Best line, from Judge - gotta read
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:33 PM
Jul 2018

The Alexandria jail had experience with high-profile defendants "including foreign and domestic terrorists, spies and traitors," Ellis wrote.

summer_in_TX

(2,713 posts)
7. That was the best!
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:42 PM
Jul 2018

Wonder how he delivered that line, don't you? ('Course it'd be bad for his reputation as a judge if any hint of sarcasm or schadenfreude crept into his tone of voice.)

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
11. He got caught trying to play a judge.
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:53 AM
Jul 2018

It's his lawyers fault really. They tried to stretch the case for a bogus reason and the judge called them on it.

Judges can be evil when a lawyer treats them like they'e stupid, and don't believe him when he says "it's confusing", or he "doesn't understand".

Are these the best sharks Manafort can afford? He better hope Trump is still around for that pardon.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
14. thanks, I read the article; still wondering why there are private cells with nicer accommodations
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:29 AM
Jul 2018

for some. How is that allowed? Do you get a nicer jail cell if you offer to pay more, or is it based on some kind of celebrity status, or does your lawyer negotiate that it's needed for security reasons??

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
15. The DC judge wrote an order on her own
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 04:32 AM
Jul 2018

authority that Manafort be afforded a fair opportunity to prepare his own defense while in jail so far away from his lawyers. This was, I'm sure, to avoid (assuming Manafort's convicted) using "ineffective counsel" as grounds for appeal.

I doubt she intented the jail to give him the equivalent of 5-star prison accomodations.

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