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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 08:56 AM Jul 2018

APNewsBreak: Government reopens probe of Emmett Till slaying

Source: Associated Press



By JAY REEVES
Today

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) — The federal government has reopened its investigation into the slaying of Emmett Till, the black teenager whose brutal killing in Mississippi shocked the world and helped inspire the civil rights movement more than 60 years ago.

The Justice Department told Congress in a report in March it is reinvestigating Till’s slaying in Money, Mississippi, in 1955 after receiving “new information.” The case was closed in 2007 with authorities saying the suspects were dead; a state grand jury didn’t file any new charges.

Deborah Watts, a cousin of Till, said she was unaware the case had been reopened until contacted by The Associated Press on Wednesday.

The federal report, sent annually to lawmakers under a law that bears Till’s name, does not indicate what the new information might be. But it was issued in late March following the publication last year of “The Blood of Emmett Till,” a book that says a key figure in the case acknowledged lying about events preceding the slaying of the 14-year-old youth from Chicago.

The book, by Timothy B. Tyson, quotes a white woman, Carolyn Donham, as acknowledging during a 2008 interview that she wasn’t truthful when she testified that Till grabbed her, whistled and made sexual advances at a store in 1955.

Read more: https://apnews.com/719f1c4c2daf4d72a720d56000ccacda

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APNewsBreak: Government reopens probe of Emmett Till slaying (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2018 OP
I don't see the point in opening an old wound, we all know what happened. Just another waste of tax Meadowoak Jul 2018 #1
Actualy, it is more important ESPECIALLY at this time with the reemergence, and legitimization of still_one Jul 2018 #4
Thank you for this post canetoad Jul 2018 #14
Why, you're in good company! WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2018 #17
I told the story of Emmett Till to two classes of 14 yo African Americans in a charter school. no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #2
I just wrapped up a class on the fifties that included the key events in the civil rights movement.. hedda_foil Jul 2018 #12
Thanks for the video. n/t CanSocDem Jul 2018 #18
You're welcome. hedda_foil Jul 2018 #19
Justice Department? relogic Jul 2018 #3
Which is even more reason why it needs to be reopened, especially in this environment still_one Jul 2018 #5
Depends on relogic Jul 2018 #6
That is my concern as well. Meadowoak Jul 2018 #8
The skepticism I share with you, but the reopening presents an opportunity to remind people who are still_one Jul 2018 #9
And they're going to pardon Muhammad Ali, too! PubliusEnigma Jul 2018 #7
really heaven05 Jul 2018 #10
With this DOJ maxrandb Jul 2018 #11
In J Sessions' courts the new evidence spike jones Jul 2018 #15
And here's the photo of the little sweetie who lied about Emmitt Till Judi Lynn Jul 2018 #13
AP Was There: 2 men acquitted of murder in Emmett Till case Sam Johnson Judi Lynn Jul 2018 #16

Meadowoak

(5,540 posts)
1. I don't see the point in opening an old wound, we all know what happened. Just another waste of tax
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 09:03 AM
Jul 2018

Dollars that should be used re-unifying children with their parents.

still_one

(92,062 posts)
4. Actualy, it is more important ESPECIALLY at this time with the reemergence, and legitimization of
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 09:12 AM
Jul 2018

racism and bigotry that has been going on since trump has occupied the WH, and the dismantling of the Civil Rights and voting rights act of the sixties

Reunification of parents with their children can occur whether this reopening occurs or not. It is NOT an either OR situation, and should not be framed that way




canetoad

(17,137 posts)
14. Thank you for this post
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:19 PM
Jul 2018

Lately I've noticed a contingent on DU that suggest almost everything is less important than the detained children.

The children are important, but so are many other social justice issues, historical or current.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,309 posts)
17. Why, you're in good company!
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:47 PM
Jul 2018

One of the white men who killed Emmett, Roy Bryant, said basically the same thing!

"Emmett Till is dead. I don't know why he just can't stay dead."

no_hypocrisy

(46,041 posts)
2. I told the story of Emmett Till to two classes of 14 yo African Americans in a charter school.
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 09:04 AM
Jul 2018

At 30 minutes without notes. They had no idea who Emmett Till was and his significance.

I pointed at several individuals in the class and stated they were about Till's age and any one of them could have been him in that place and time.

And I emphasized that jury finding "not guilty" to a crime(s) is NOT THE SAME THING AS "INNOCENT". It just means not enough evidence to convict.

The reading materials on this subject were wholly inadequate and I felt the need to educate these students.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
12. I just wrapped up a class on the fifties that included the key events in the civil rights movement..
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:03 PM
Jul 2018

Emmet Till's murder was the fulcrum for much that followed, starting with the Montgomery bus boycott soon afterwards. We spent quite a bit of time on it. My class was for older adults, both white and AA in our Lifelong Learning program, I used David Halberstam's video series "The Fifties," episode titled The Rage Within for that module. It focuses on Emmet Till and the integration of Central High School in Little Rock. Link:https://m.

&t=958s

A black woman educator in my class had the realization she shared with the group that her mother had always said she moved her family from the South to Chicago and refused to even visit her relatives back home because of Emmet Till. My student said she had never understood her mother's attitude until that video. It really hit home with everyone and might work for your young teenagers too. Check it out.

relogic

(155 posts)
3. Justice Department?
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 09:07 AM
Jul 2018

Not too long ago most non-bigoted Americans would have felt relief for such an investigation. Under B Sessions-not so much.

A little birdy asked the esteemed, unjust AT Sessions what he felt about that horrible crime-
“What crime?”

still_one

(92,062 posts)
5. Which is even more reason why it needs to be reopened, especially in this environment
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 09:21 AM
Jul 2018

I have the same skepticism you have, but I think it is important especially based on what has been occurring under trump and the republicans with the dismantling of the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act that has been occurring

relogic

(155 posts)
6. Depends on
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 09:25 AM
Jul 2018

who’s doing the investigating. Just skeptical under the racist, judge inplant system we suffer under currently.

still_one

(92,062 posts)
9. The skepticism I share with you, but the reopening presents an opportunity to remind people who are
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 09:40 AM
Jul 2018

either unaware or forgotten just who bad things were, and a warning to the direction we appear to be heading toward




 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. really
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jul 2018

Sessions will let the KKKlansmen off again or not, which will give the RW a 'talking point' for their ignorant. I'm not fooled. Posthumously, of course. This reopening does not allay my fears of the fascists trying to take over our democracy. GOTV

Judi Lynn

(160,484 posts)
13. And here's the photo of the little sweetie who lied about Emmitt Till
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:11 PM
Jul 2018

and treated him to a night on the town with her rabid, vicious, ultra-imaginative violent racist Klansman husband and his good Klansman pal. As she aged, she must have started discovering her conscience didn't seem to be hidden well enough any more, and her last ditch effort in coming "clean" was done in hope that if there is a hereafter, someone will "go easier" on her at that time, rather than treating her to a similar night on the town in the next world.





One of the Klansmen defendents receives some cordial moments of emotional support.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2957334.1485536449!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/mississippi-whistle-trial.jpg

Klansman suspects, with the wife of one of them, who claimed she was sexually harrassed by the child Till.





Courtroom scene, with Klansman's family of W.A.S.P.s.



Klansmen suspects, celebrating with their wives.









Emmitt Till, before the men gouged out an eye, beat him until he was nearly dead, bound him with barbed wire to a 75
pound machine, and threw him in a river, where he remained until someone discovered what had happened long after he
was dead.

Judi Lynn

(160,484 posts)
16. AP Was There: 2 men acquitted of murder in Emmett Till case Sam Johnson
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:35 PM
Jul 2018

Sam Johnson, The Associated Press Updated 4:55 pm CDT, Thursday, July 12, 2018


SUMNER, Miss. (AP) — The federal government has reopened its investigation of the 1955 slaying of black teen Emmett Till, a case that helped build momentum for the civil rights movement. The move comes a year after a book on the case revealed that a key figure acknowledged lying.

The Associated Press is republishing a version of a report that followed the acquittal of the two men in the Till case. The following AP story is from September 1955.

___

An all-white jury, composed mainly of Delta cotton farmers, acquitted two white storekeepers of the murder of a 14-year-old Chicago Negro boy yesterday, but the half-brother spent the night in the county jail.

Roy Bryant, 24, and John Milam, 36, still face charges of kidnapping Emmett Louis Till from the sharecropper shack in Leflore County where he was vacationing with his uncle, Mose Wright.

More:
https://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/AP-Was-There-2-men-acquitted-of-murder-in-Emmett-13070895.php
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