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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 08:01 PM Jul 2018

Communist-run Cuba to recognize private property in new constitution

Source: Reuters

HAVANA (Reuters) - Communist-run Cuba will officially recognize private property, something it has long rejected as a vestige of capitalism, under a new constitution that also creates the position of prime minister alongside the president, state media reported on Saturday.

Cuba’s current Soviet-era constitution only recognizes state, cooperative, farmer, personal and joint venture property.

But former President Raul Castro’s market reforms, aimed at trying to boost the economy and make Cuban socialism more sustainable, have prompted hundreds of thousands of Cubans to join the ranks of the island’s self-employed since 2010, in new privately-owned businesses ranging from restaurants to beauty salons.

Ruling Communist Party newspaper Granma published a summary of the new constitution on Saturday, saying a draft it had seen included 224 articles, up from 137 previously.

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cuba-politics/communist-run-cuba-to-recognize-private-property-in-new-constitution-idUSKBN1K4108

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Communist-run Cuba to recognize private property in new constitution (Original Post) jpak Jul 2018 OP
I wonder ... left-of-center2012 Jul 2018 #1
Usually land/housing versus things like clothes/vehicles/furniture. nt NutmegYankee Jul 2018 #2
Any influence from the writings of Hernando de Soto Polar? DorothyG Jul 2018 #3
How does that work? Do you own the property you occupy? redstateblues Jul 2018 #4
Yeah, yeah. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #5
And you've lived there for how long? Mike Rows His Boat Jul 2018 #6
You posting this from Cuba? GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #8
I'm in Miami at the moment. Mike Rows His Boat Jul 2018 #9
I support full relations with Cuba. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #10
So, you're telling me, a Cuban, that I'm confused about Cuba? Mike Rows His Boat Jul 2018 #11
You already told me you are not in Cuba now. But the US. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #12
Internet is expensive, so browsing and idle convos are limited by finances. Mike Rows His Boat Jul 2018 #13
You are ready know I support normalization of relations with Cuba. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #14
Sorry. But you're wrong. Mike Rows His Boat Jul 2018 #15
Cuba's Soviet era constitution??? Mike Rows His Boat Jul 2018 #7

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. Yeah, yeah.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:27 AM
Jul 2018

The Soviet government guaranteed freedom of speech as well.

Don’t get me wrong, I support normalization of relations with Cuba. But that is a shit hole government that oppresses its citizens worse than any other in the New World.

 

Mike Rows His Boat

(389 posts)
6. And you've lived there for how long?
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:10 PM
Jul 2018

I’ve been all over the LatAm and Caribbean nations, I can tell you it’s not.

Btw, I’m Cuban-American.


 

Mike Rows His Boat

(389 posts)
9. I'm in Miami at the moment.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:16 PM
Jul 2018

Do Cubans communicate online? Yes. I skype and Facebook with my friends and relatives every day.

Maybe go there and see for yourself... lots and lots of lies and propaganda heaped miles high can be fully debunked by seeing for yourself.




GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
10. I support full relations with Cuba.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:18 PM
Jul 2018

But do not confuse anything there with liberal politics. They are a police state.

 

Mike Rows His Boat

(389 posts)
11. So, you're telling me, a Cuban, that I'm confused about Cuba?
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:25 PM
Jul 2018

Telling me that I lived in a police state and might not know it?
Ain’t that one dumb-ass hoot.

Glad you support normalization, hopefully you’ll go there to end your confusion.





GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
12. You already told me you are not in Cuba now. But the US.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:39 PM
Jul 2018

I ask once again, could we be having this online discussion if you were I Cuba? If so, please let me know. I will apologize for my statements about Cuba.

And if I were a Cuban and Published either in the press or online something negative about the government would I get a visit from the police? Or some other entity that might as well be the police?

If not and that is totally allowable with Cuba please let me know, and I will apologize.

If neither of those things are possible, then Cuba is a police state.

 

Mike Rows His Boat

(389 posts)
13. Internet is expensive, so browsing and idle convos are limited by finances.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:49 PM
Jul 2018

I’ll post here next time I’m there.
There is a wide range of political discussion in Cuba, and opposition parties are present along with their platform communications.

I don’t want or need any apology. Just would like the Soviet era-like US knee jerking to stop. Normalization with Cuba would help with this phenomenon.

Also, a good measure as to if there’s a police state or not is prison population.
The US stands at #1 in total numbers and percentage of total population.




GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
14. You are ready know I support normalization of relations with Cuba.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:59 PM
Jul 2018

But let’s stop playing games. If you say or publish something the Cuban government does not like you’ll get a visit from the police. If you publicly advocate for change in government you will get a visit from the police. Lots of countries are like this. No need to pretend that Cuba is somehow different. It like all those other countries is a police state.

If you want to start a post about the problems with the US I will probably agree with many of them. But in this country I can say whatever the hell I want and that counts for a lot. And I can work like hell to elect a government to replace the one we have now.

We should have never put the embargo on Cuba. Had we not they would have thrown off the one family banana republic in the name of socialism that they have years ago.

 

Mike Rows His Boat

(389 posts)
15. Sorry. But you're wrong.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:07 PM
Jul 2018

As I said, there’s a wide range of politics in Cuba, including other parties (aka: opposition parties).

Thing is, Cubans overwhelmingly support their style of socialism. Even the annual CIA report admits this. For example That means if a candidate wants to run for elected office on a privatization of the health care system platform they stand zero chance of being nominated let alone winning.

You should go, the you’d realize that you’re not informed at all on this topic.
Not sure why anyone would insist on something they don’t know about.




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