Immigration Poll Finds Deep Divide Over Trump's Agenda

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Source: npr




July 16, 20185:00 AM ET


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Many of President Trump's immigration policies are deeply unpopular, including recent efforts to deter illegal immigration by separating migrant families at the border, according to a new NPR-Ipsos poll.

But Americans are polarized in their attitudes about immigrants and the U.S. system for admitting them, the polls shows, with Republicans much more likely to support the president's policies, including the travel ban, the border wall, and changes to legal immigration.

"There's such stark differences between Democrats and Republicans on these issues, just worlds apart," said pollster Chris Jackson, a vice president with Ipsos Public Affairs, which conducted the poll.

And Trump's base remains on the president's side. They are "very much behind him, which gives some of the strength to what he's doing," Jackson said.
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Read more: https://www.npr.org/2018/07/16/628849355/immigration-poll-finds-deep-divide-over-trumps-agenda

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[beachbum bob]

1. Years of propaganda to make Americans afraid and fearful has worked

at least on republicans who by their very nature lack critical thinking and intelllectural curiosity. I have dozens of conservative friends and I only know 2 that ever traveled overseas...the fear controls and fear is the easy emotion to manipulate.

No debate will convince these people otherwise.

[BumRushDaShow]

2. "And Trump's base remains on the president's side. They are 'very much behind him'"

His "base" represents no more than about 35% of the population. The other 65% of the population is NOT his "base".

The RW-infested NPR keeps trying to make it seem like there are equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans so the country is "divided" (equally).

[The Mouth]

3. It's not the percentage of the population that matters, though

it's the percentage that come out and VOTE. 35 percent who WILL go to the polls (especially in EC heavy states) beats 70 percent who don't.

[BumRushDaShow]

4. There was an interesting study about this

http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2017/06/why-are-millions-of-citizens-not-registered-to-vote#0-overview

Basically, that, per the above link (at least as of 2014) 21% of those eligible to vote didn't register to vote. Meaning that the other almost 80% WERE registered. And as we have seen in the past couple Presidential elections, upwards of around 60+% who were registered, DID vote.

So when you are talking about a "base" of 35%, that is assuming those who are registered vote, which is STILL less than the 60%.

The issue as we have seen both in 2000 and 2016, was the EC and how to effectively flip an election when one sides loses by almost 3,000,000 votes. I.e., the popular vote WAS there for Ds but not spread across the states that it needed to be because of the rules of the EC.

[The Mouth]

5. Yes

I think of elections and the EC much as a chess game. You could checkmate me and win even if I had twice as many pieces. The rules of the contest are known by all parties going in.

The Electoral College was designed at its outset to equalize the advantages between populous and sparsely populated states, and being that 38 states would need to vote to get rid of it, and 32 of those would lose influence, it's a part of the contest for my lifetime at least.


231,556,622 eligible voters

46.9% didn't vote
25.6% voted for Clinton
25.5% voted for Trump
1.7% voted for Johnson

Swing states:
36.5% didn't vote
30.9% Trump
29.9% Clinton
1.9% Johnson
0.5% Stein
0.4% Others

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8265143/almost-half-eligible-voters-did-not-vote-election-2016/