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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:09 AM Jul 2018

Obama: Those in power are trying to 'undermine every institution or norm that gives democracy...

Source: The Hill



Obama: Those in power are trying to 'undermine every institution or norm that gives democracy meaning'

BY JACQUELINE THOMSEN - 07/17/18 11:03 AM EDT

Former President Obama on Tuesday appeared to offer a wide-ranging rebuke of President Trump, saying that “those in power seek to undermine every institution or norm that gives democracy meaning."

Obama, delivering the 2018 Nelson Mandela Annual Lecture in Johannesburg, warned that “strongman politics are ascending suddenly, whereby elections, some pretense of democracy, are maintained, the form of it.” He referenced “strange and uncertain” times, saying that “each day’s news cycle is bringing more head-spinning and disturbing headlines.”

One of his most direct criticisms toward Trump administration was over the withdrawal from the Paris climate deal, saying that he can't "find common ground" with people who claim that climate change is a hoax, "when almost all the world’s scientists say it is." And he also spoke about leaders who "completely make stuff up" in another apparent jab at Trump, saying that facts need to be upheld in order for democracy to thrive.

"We see the utter loss of shame in political leaders when they’re caught in a lie and they just double down and lie some more," Obama said, warning that the undermining of facts and reality could "be democracy's undoing."

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/news/397410-obama-those-in-power-are-trying-to-undermine-every-institution-or-norm-that

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Obama: Those in power are trying to 'undermine every institution or norm that gives democracy... (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2018 OP
The sound of a REAL president Blue Owl Jul 2018 #1
Wonderful and sad to hear a real statesman mcar Jul 2018 #2
I only wish elmac Jul 2018 #3
+1. The situation was way too dangerous to be treated politely. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2018 #4
we haven't lived in a true Democracy since the 80's elmac Jul 2018 #7
Run by oligarchs... pbmus Jul 2018 #8
THE LION KING Sunlei Jul 2018 #6
goddamn I miss him JuJuYoshida Jul 2018 #9
And he also spoke about leaders who "completely make stuff up" tHAT BE TRUMPY. riversedge Jul 2018 #10
 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
3. I only wish
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 11:32 AM
Jul 2018

President Obama would have told the turtle to go to hell and announce that Russia was interfering with the elections before the elections. Now, any statement made, any anger shown by any good leaders will not change the fact that putin owns ameriKa.

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elmac

(4,642 posts)
7. we haven't lived in a true Democracy since the 80's
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:09 PM
Jul 2018

and now we are solidly a fascist capitalist society.

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