Trump Defends Russia: 'I'm Not Pro-Russia,' But They Did Help Us Win Wars

[DonViejo]

Source: Talking Points Memo


By Nicole Lafond | July 18, 2018 7:38 am

During a lukewarm interview with Fox News’ Tucker Carlson, recorded just after the press conference with Vladimir Putin on Monday, President Donald Trump argued that he’s “not pro-Russia,” but the country “really helped us” win some wars.

“It’s incredible,” he told Carlson Monday. “You look at World War I and World War II, there was Germany. And in World War II, Russia lost 50 million people and helped us win the war. I was saying to myself the other day, you know, Russia really helped us. I’m not pro-Russia, pro-anybody, I just want to have this country be safe, I don’t want nuclear weapons– even people thinking about it.”

The interview aired on Fox Tuesday night.

In the interview that took place on the heels of the summit with Putin, where Trump received intense backlash for publicly defending Putin’s denial of Russian interference in the 2016 election, Trump also criticized the FBI and former intelligence official John Brennan.

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-not-pro-russia-but-did-help-us

[Botany]

1. "You look at World War I"

Ah, history much Trump. Russia pulled out of WW I after the communists
took over.

Trump is fucking crazy.

[yallerdawg]

22. WW II.

Russia was allied with Nazi Germany until Hitler invaded them.

At the end of the war, Russia more or less occupied Eastern Europe - half of Germany, eventually walled-in Berlin.

We call that "The Cold War" - stable genius.

North Korea was a proxy. Vietnam was a proxy. Russia took us to the brink of nuclear war regaring Cuba.

I would so much like to get a history lesson from the Dotard.

THEN tell me he shouldn't be impeached and removed from office!

[Botany]

28. I just stopped with his WW I bullshit because if I tried to correct the rest of his crap ....

... I couldn't have stopped.

But yes you are very much right in all your other points.



Ribbentrop and Stalin in 1939.

[yallerdawg]

32. I thought we'd tag team this!

We might have some conservative Republicans drop by, and then they'd be saying, "Yeah, but WW II."

[apnu]

41. Nazi Germany and the USSR had a non aggression pact

Not an alliance.

Germany and Italy had an alliance. Germany had to bail Italy out of a debacle in North Africa.

Hitler always intended to attack Russia, but wanted to take all of Europe before that. He changed his mind because he thought the Russians were preparing to break the NAP and decided to attack first. But Italy screwed up its bit in North Africa and Germany diverted resources to bail them out, setting a bad time table for their Russian offensive. That's why they attacked in late summer and didn't have winter uniforms and other logistical issues (like oil) for their troops.

Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were ideologically opposed to each other. Though both were authoritarian dictatorships, they came from such different places there is no way they could ever be allies.

[dalton99a]

2. Nothing but trash talk for America, and nothing but praise for Russia

throughout his whole life

Go to Russia and stay there, goddamn traitor

[PatSeg]

3. I love seeing Trump on the defense

He looks nervous and insecure. He knows he is in trouble.

[Whiskeytide]

37. I don't think he knows ... or at least ...

... he's having trouble understanding it. I get the feeling he thought his summit was a roaring success, and that he came off great. But his advisers are yelling at him that it was awful, Newt criticized him, and even Fox stammered around a bit. He's walking it back - weakly - because they are hair-on-fire insisting he do so, but I still get a sense that it's bewildering to him.

[PatSeg]

43. I think he became overly confident

It seemed he could do or say anything and nothing stuck to him. Now he has very few people coming to his defense and the old tricks aren't working anymore. I think he looks very insecure and I can just imagine the tantrums that are going on behind closed doors.

[unblock]

4. "i'm not pro-russia but they're among the very few people i refuse under any circumstance to insult"

"all americans except rich white christian able-bodied straight male republicans, i'll insult, and all foreigners, except for russians are also fair game. but i'm not pro-russia because apparently that doesn't poll well."

[louis c]

5. What a fucking dope

We helped Russia. Germany never invaded us, we went to Europe to defeat Fascism there and in the Pacific.

We helped save Russia, not the other way around.

By the way, if Trump was an adult in 1939 and 1940, there is no doubt he would have been part of the original "American First" movement. As a matter of fact, there is little doubt that Fred Trump Sr. was allied with that group.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. A small caveat. Germany declared war on us three days after we declared war on Japan.

[louis c]

20. I know that...

...but they never invaded us, as I said.

[exboyfil]

33. They did sink our merchant ships with abandon

and sent saboteurs to the US.

[louis c]

34. Quite different than Russia

[ProfessorGAC]

42. As I'm Sure You Recall, Louis. . .

. . .Stalin spent a couple years practically begging FDR and Churchill to create a second front. His anger after the war was because it took so long.

So, yeah, we helped the USSR by taking the time to plan the logistics of an invasion more overwhelming and better supplied than the Germans could resist.

They didn't join to the war to help us. We joined the war to help them!

[ProudMNDemocrat]

6. Trump was told that....He did not think that up on his own.....

Trump does NOT READ.....

Ìt is correct that the then Soviet Union under Stalin, was a tentative ally of Britain and the US during WWII. But, they had domination plans once the war was over.

During WWI, Tsarist Russia was undergoing an upheaval that paved the way for Lenin to take over. Russia had problems of their own and were fighting to stay alive.

[hedda_foil]

12. I agree. Putin must have told him this in their private meeting. All Russian talking poiNts.

[CountAllVotes]

7. Keep spewing your useless crap

Its duck and cover time, just like in those old school days when we hid under our desks to avoid that nuclear bomb that is enroute.

[C_U_L8R]

8. How's Syria going, Spanknuts?

And how about Afghanistan? How about all the other proxy battles currently brewing? And the threats to neighboring countries?

[BumRushDaShow]

9. "Russia lost 50 million people and helped us win the war"

The Nazis had plowed through Europe and set their sites on Russia. I.e., it was an INVASION of their territory that they repelled.

[ck4829]

10. And that means what...?

Other countries were on the side we were on in World War I and World War II.

Iran had our back when we went into Afghanistan... and Bush repaid them by saying they were part of the Axis of Evil.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

11. He thought to himself...

as if the man is so introspective about anything or anybody other than himself. he's not "pro anybody" including America. His 2 hour seminar w putin really gave him a better understanding of russian history. ahem. Why is this man still in office? We need to think what the gop would do of Pres Obama did this...then do exactly that. He's a gd traitor to this country and that's not just some word to make him look bad. This whole saga needs o end. We have more than enough evidence. Mueller GD it, let's GO dude. Let's GO.
By the time Mueller pulls the damn trigger on these goons, it'll just be polemics bc the country will already be compromised and rent asunder. Imagine all the russians that are being installed everyday in America, under the radar. We are going down the drain.
My question to repub voters...what in the world do you think is in all of this for you?

[Mc Mike]

13. Genius. I wonder why those dopey lefties didn't use that line

with HUAC and tailgunner Joe.

[relogic]

14. "Russia really helped us."

Yeah, I know. They keep helping us by helping your party win elections and helping us helping your KGB buddy subvert our democracy. The redundancy is maddening.

[Moostache]

15. The penalty for treason is death by hanging.

Trump is a traitor and what he did on Monday was TREASON, full stop.

We should not be debating semantics and a poor grasp on history...we should be debating whether or not the framers intended for execution of treasonous bastards to be public or private events.

We should be discussing whether or not a cabinet appointed by a treasonous Commander in Chief may remain in office once the head of the criminal cabal is removed from office.

We should be sweating down Turtle and Munster in a black site, demanding that they turn over everything on everyone in the GOP conspiracy.

This is tragic. This is historic. The fact that we sit by idly while it goes unpunished in broad daylight is why this is a failed state...

[Initech]

16. Trump don't know much about HISTORY

Trump don't know much about BIOLOGY...

Come to think of it, he doesn't really know much of anything!

[R Merm]

18. The only truth in that statement is.

"I’m not ..., pro-anybody", he is not pro-anybody other then himself. That includes his family who he would sell out in a second if it could save his ass.

[bucolic_frolic]

19. Trump has a simpleton's take on history

Czarist Russia, and later Soviet Union's motives and treaties in both wars were complex. Czarist Russia was undergoing revolution, from Czar to White Russians to the Kerensky government, and despair. Citizens, as they usually do, wanted war to end. Germany permitted Lenin to pass through the war zone and return to Russia on a sealed train. Presumably Germany did this to help defeat Russia. Stalin had treaties with Hitler, but was he hedging Soviet unpreparedness for war, or simply waiting for opportunity? We supplied Stalin's Russia with materiel, it was good for the economy. Stalin waited years for the second front, and suffered major losses of life. I consider this summary painting with a broad brush.

Trump's 'helped us win some wars' is like a pre-school watercolor.

[turbinetree]

21. Yepper there sexual predator..........your Pro Traitor and Pro Treason.....................

Shit for brains, shit is more intelligent than you........................

[heaven05]

23. A true idiot

we have as a potus....shame, shame, shame....geez

[MrModerate]

24. It is true that Stalin primarily used his troops to slow down German bullets . . .

Taking horrific casualties, because he couldn't think of anything else.

But it's not true to say "they helped us win the war," any more than it's correct to say that "we helped them win" by saving their bacon with our arms shipments in the period directly after Hitler invaded.

[Norbert]

25. By trumps logic al Qaeda must be okay too

After they were on our side in Afghanistan during the 1980s. Let's not have an insignificant thing like 9/11 get in the way. SMH

[Historic NY]

26. Russia wasn't much help after the Reds knocked off Tsar Nicholas

in fact they withdrew from their Allies in Oct 1917 after they killed the Tsar and civil war broke out in Russia. Stalin was a conniving SOB who didn't care if his soldiers were out front with spears. In fact some were. He killed off many of his own people. Russia helped itself with our industrial might and cash. In fact they never repaid the lend-lease debts, once the USSR went under we were left holding a $674 million dollar debt w/o interest on an estimated 1.3 billion dollar loan.

[Ponietz]

27. Pestilent Dump flashes gang sign to YKW at G20

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Loser, Inc. is the world’s most dangerous criminal organization

[BootinUp]

29. The truth is we really don't have to do much

Of anything besides get our own house in order. This fucker is doing himself in.

[IronLionZion]

30. Trump also believes Nazis are not so bad

even though after WWII, the Drumpf family told everyone they were Swedish to avoid the anti-German sentiment in the US at the time.

Indeed, USA helped save Russia from likely extinction. Russian military back then was in bad shape.

Germany didn't stand much of a chance fighting on 2 fronts, so they were spread too thin. Russia would have lost badly without the USA opening up a western front on D-Day.

[truthisfreedom]

31. Low information revisionist historian teaches his base nonsense.

Smh.

[PSPS]

35. Yes, such a "help" that only Truman kept us from marching into Moscow after Germany was flattened.

[Maxheader]

36. Genius

talks like a gomer...

[SpankMe]

38. "I'm not pro-Dr. Mengele, but he did cure my athelete's foot one time." n/t

[Javaman]

39. the man is a fucking moron. nt

[neohippie]

40. I guess he forgets more recent events

Russia is actively funding and aiding the Taliban in Afghanistan

Russian mercenaries attacked US forces in Syria

Russia has forces in the Ukraine working against our interests there too

Russia has helped countries like North Korea evade US sanctions

Russia is working against US interests helping Iran

Russia has violated a Nuclear treaty with the US with its work on intermediate range missiles

[aka-chmeee]

44. True enough!

Certainly more than Donald or any member of his family has ever done.