Nielsen: 'I Haven't Seen Evidence' That Russians Hacked Election To Help Trump
Source: Talking Points Memo
By Kate Riga | July 19, 2018 12:42 pm
In a remarkable break with U.S. intelligence agencies, DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen insisted Thursday that there was no evidence that Russia meddled in the 2016 U.S. election with the express purpose of helping then-candidate Donald Trump win.
At first, Nielsen distinguished between efforts targeted at election infrastructure in the U.S. and other attempts to meddle. I havent seen any evidence that the attempts to interfere in our election infrastructure was to favor a particular political party, she said at the Aspen Institutes Security Forum in Colorado. I think what weve seen on the foreign influence side is they were attempting to intervene and cause chaos on both sides.
She also mentioned that Russia continued to sow discord after Trumps election, citing activity related to the white nationalist rally and attack on counter-protesters in Charlottesville, after which Trump blamed both sides.
When pushed about intelligence agencies findingsin three separate assessments from the intelligence community, Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the Senate Intelligence Committeethat the Russians definitively did hack the election to help Trump win, Nielsen danced around the issue and would not name Trump himself.
Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/nielsen-i-havent-seen-evidence-that-russians-hacked-election-to-help-trump
Nero Mero
(52 posts)She's protecting her boss.
24601
(3,961 posts)I've kept my paper copy for the last 18 months and note that the online version has not been changed.
A few things should be clarified. I'll quote the document verbatim and my comments will follow in brackets. The assessment is a government document with no copyright; therefore, there should be no fair-use limitation. Friday's indictments appear consistent with assessment of GRU involvement (pages ii & iii). The assessment is about 25 pages and is an easy read.
Scope (page i)
"This report includes an analytic assessment drafted and coordinated among The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and The National Security Agency (NSA), which draws on intelligence information collected and disseminated by those three agencies."
[It was misunderstood and reported widely that this was an unanimous assessment by the entire 17-member Intelligence Community. There was an additional non-intelligence assessment by DHS; however, it was not from either DHS' IC elements, their Office of Intelligence and Analysis or from Coast Guard Intelligence.]
"We did not make an assessment of the impact that Russian activities had on the outcome of the 2016 election. The US Intelligence Community is charged with monitoring and assessing the intentions, capabilities, and actions of foreign actors; it does not analyze US political processes or US public opinion."
[No additional comment]
Key Judgments (page ii)
"We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russias goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments."
"We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trumps election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.
"Moscows approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russias understanding of the electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency."
"Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals."
[I believe that NSA's differing confidence is why aspiring to help Trump was not included as Russian Goal in which the first judgment. NSA had moderate confidence, defined in Annex B on page 13 as credibly sourced and plausable. Information cutoff was 29 December 2017.] ]
Key Judgments (page iii)
"Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying."
"We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes."
[No additional comment]
SWBTATTReg
(22,114 posts)This is the only thing rump's cronies know by now.
dalton99a
(81,475 posts)PUTIN: Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the US/Russia relationship back to normal.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)End of story.
madamesilverspurs
(15,801 posts)She makes idiots look smart.
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RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I've been trying to figure out who she reminds me of from history, and I can't quite. But then I'm history-challenged, so there's that.
Possibly Eva Braun. Think if she'd been not a consort but an appointee. I don't think that's a perfect analogy, but --- like I said, I'm coming up empty with the right one.
One thing for sure: SHE IS COMPLICIT as hell in the crimes against humanity of the Trump administration at the border.
dweller
(23,629 posts)😑
mpcamb
(2,870 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,515 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Gitmo will be full of Trump associates
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)MSM... and admit you were taken in by these phonies.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)PaulX2
(2,032 posts)Speaking of evidence.
Marthe48
(16,949 posts)Traitor. Traitor. Traitor.
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)Marthe48
(16,949 posts)Or out of your ass. She had to be hand-picked by putin.
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)She's not smart enough to be considered for any government position higher than what she has.
If she won't believe her lyin' eyes, maybe she will believe Putin - he admitted it on international television!
And she won't acknowledge her contribution to putting little children in cages, separated from parents abruptly, with the barest minimal treatment and care.
Loathsome woman.
Le Gaucher
(1,547 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)"I haven't seen evidence" is not an answer. Just because you haven't seen the evidence doesn't mean that it's not true.
And if you've seen the evidence and you are saying this, you are a liar.
And if you've seen the evidence but don't believe it, you're a fool.
kimbutgar
(21,137 posts)She is a Twitler stooge who will run to him and Nunes and show them what they have. I think she is purposely being kept out the loop.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)or consciously ignoring that which exists and in doing so, miserably failing the duties and obligations of her position.
Saguaro
(79 posts)Perhaps she missed that.
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)Till then, you have to use your brain just a little bit
DarthDem
(5,255 posts)Geez.
BadGimp
(4,015 posts)riversedge
(70,204 posts)area51
(11,908 posts)... if you keep your eyes closed.