Bernie Sanders' campaign strategist Tad Devine turns up 16 times in evidence against Paul Manafort

[herding cats]

Source: Raw Story

The chief strategist for the Bernie Sanders campaign was in contact with Paul Manafort and a Russian alleged spy also indicted in the special counsel probe, according to new court filings.

Tad Devine, who helped run the Vermont senator’s Democratic primary campaign, shows up 16 times in a list of nearly 500 evidence exhibits published Wednesday evening by prosecutors in the Manafort case, reported the Washington Post.

The former campaign chairman for President Donald Trump and Devine worked together nearly a decade ago for former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych and his pro-Kremlin Party of Regions, and the pair remained in contact until at least 2014.

According to the new court filing, Manafort and Devine communicated by email through June 2014, about five months before he joined the Sanders campaign that November.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/bernie-sanders-campaign-strategist-tad-devine-turns-16-times-evidence-paul-manafort/

[Mr.Bill]

1. Rut-Roh! n/t

[louis c]

2. Very Interesting

A lot of stuff is now becoming clearer to me.

[FarPoint]

61. It's sad but can't say I didn't feel uncomfortable....

Let's get this exposed as well...

[msongs]

3. rawstory is not a news source nt

[Fullduplexxx]

22. Oh i think i get it

[pnwmom]

42. Usually it's an aggregator but sometimes it publishes its own stories,

which is what happened this time.

They went through the court document and reported on it.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

74. Screaming 'fake news" doesn't make this go away, Donald

It's in the court documents.

[GemDigger]

77. There is this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2014/11/11/tad-devine-signs-on-to-work-with-bernie-sanders-on-potential-2016-run/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.da94dacee854

[kimbutgar]

4. Was Jill stein also in this loop?

[BigmanPigman]

43. Putin used everyone to attack his enemy...HILLARY!

The fucking moron, Bernie, Stein were all tools in her defeat. OOPS! I am wrong. HILLARY was NOT defeated, she WON the popular vote!

[Skid Rogue]

122. 100%

I remember marveling at all the weird Russian connections, on the left and the right, during the election. The tragic thing is, segments of the left fell for the lies against Hillary hook, line and sinker. I feel most sorry for the young liberals. The media attack was so well coordinated that many of them, with less political experience and no true memories of the Clintons, had no real way to sift through the lies. I don't even think it crossed their minds that they were being used.

[BigmanPigman]

124. Other people were influenced by the polls and assumed Hillary would win

so they voted third party or wrote in "Bernie" as a form of protest. I know someone who is a life long Dem and fol.owed the BS polls. BAD IDEA! My dad always taught me to "ignore polls and studies". They are not a litmus test nor are they accurate. Any poll or study can be skewed. A lot of people, including Obama...who has admitted it, made decisions and choices based on polling and assumptions and this is what happens...TRUMP'S DESTRUCTION OF THE COUNTRY!

[WhiteTara]

130. according to a report on vote suppression

could might have won by 14 million more votes.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

5. I'm a Democrat. What's bernie?

[Pachamama]

109. +1000

Good Question

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

118. Just tired of being responsible for him all the time.

Do your thing dude. He caucuses w the Democrats bc he benefits from it as well. Glad he does, but, let's get real about the whole Independent thing.

[dogman]

6. Why leave out Al Gore and John Kerry?

[herding cats]

7. Probably because of this.

Link to tweet

There appears to be more here than what we've been told previously.

[dogman]

9. And he worked on their campaigns also.

Why be selective here?

[JI7]

14. that was before he joined manafort

[dogman]

17. So what?

We are doing conspiracy theory and using guilt by association here. It worked for Limbaugh for years.

[JI7]

19. its not a conspiracy theory that he worked with manafort

[dogman]

21. No, and that is nothing new.

What is the significance of that fact beyond speculation and conspiracy theory.

[Maven]

31. The new information is that he worked with Manafort and Kilimnik through 2014

The same year he joined Bernie's campaign.

Four years after he said he had stopped working with them.

[RandomAccess]

78. But the insinuation that he did anything wrong, anywhere, ever

(in the absence of information to the contrary, which I've not seen) most certainly IS in the realm of conspiracy theory. And it's pretty unattractive.

But I'm not surprised, given the Bernie hatred that exists and is allowed here at DU.

[SergeStorms]

90. If Bernie were a Democrat...

he'd be protected from the slings and arrows. He's not.

[RandomAccess]

91. I was talking about Devine

[SergeStorms]

92. You were talking about "Bernie hatred"....

I guess I misunderstood then.

[RandomAccess]

95. Yes, but not Bernie himself --

I can see the misunderstanding. The Bernie hatred extends to anyone who ever associated with him or supported him, basically.

[KPN]

104. Right -- Bernie's obviously guilty by association here. Do we even know what Devine is guilty of?

Having worked with Manafort or having done something criminal?

[KPN]

114. But "the emails"! Why does that sound so familiar?

[Wwcd]

119. That broadbursh is simply not true. There are many bernie supporters who are

respected & indeed true in their political beliefs.

They are not hated at all, they are respected.

[George II]

25. Who is making this into a conspiracy theory? All I see are facts that have been presented.

[RandomAccess]

79. You're choosing to ignore all the innuendo?

Go right ahead. Wouldn't want to spoil your nap.

[LanternWaste]

94. Best thing to do is pretend any accurate news story is simply hatred and bias.

Otherwise, we may end up seeing our sacred cows for what they are, regardless of your nap-time.

[Adrahil]

121. Are you not a little bothered that he worked for Yanukovich?

[herding cats]

15. They predate his involvement with Russia and Manafort.

This is an investigation into Russian involvement in the 2016 election and the agents who helped spread their influence here in the US. Devine appears to be linked to that in some capacity in Manaforts investigation.

[dogman]

20. Yes, but if Tad is bad, how does that involve Bernie?

Since their is no real information here, we can speculate forever. Self-reinforcement is fun. T_Rump is addicted to it.

[herding cats]

24. Tad Devine is named by Mueller.

That he worked for Bernie Sanders in the same year as he is mentioned in an investigation into Russian involvement in our elections is a fact. Are the optics bad? Yes, definitely.

That's not speculation. It's a fact that needs to be addressed.

[dogman]

28. By Mueller.

Speculation based solely on optics is a tactic used by T-Rump. This twitter thread is filled with ridiculous, non-productive divisive rhetoric.

[herding cats]

30. This is a DU post, not a twitter thread.

I'm confused. Are you equating Mueller's investigation to Trump's tactics?

[dogman]

33. Right.

Last edited Thu Jul 19, 2018, 05:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Same sentiments on some posts on this thread were on a Twittter link posted earlier. Forgot where I was. I'm not challenging your post but the speculation about what it means.

added: see post #8 for twitter link.

[herding cats]

93. To address late your edit.

I'm sorry, I missed it for a long time.

See this reply to you by me after our exchange here. It covers this part, but I'll expound below.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2114158

I can't understand the head in the sand strategy I keep reading. To me, it's like everyone is so busy fighting amongst themselves they can't think clearly anymore.

Maybe I should be more clear here myself. I'm not fighting with anyone. We just need to be on our toes and smarter in 2018 and beyond. We need to think bigger and broader and be better citizens. We need to accept that we could be vulnerable to interference, too. We are, but I'm not not saying Devine is compromised, because we don't know yet. However, he is a weak link per this evidence he was still involved on some level with Manafort after previous claims he saw Ukraine being influenced by Russia and had removed himself after his 2010 work ended. His surrogates who spread this information weren't being honest. That's something to pay attention to now.

We do know Putin did try to exploit Bernie's campaign to weaken Hillary. That was reported back in February of this year (I think?) in the previous round of indictments. We need to be smart now. Then we need to recognize Putin's dealings and stop it before it destroys us all.

Most of all, we need to make sure no one with ties to Russia sinks their hooks in any of our candidates. I believe that will be a final death rattle of a Democratic political career now.

tldr version: we need to not be stupid and hire people like Tad Devine who have ties to helping Putin, and we shouldn't waste our time defending people like him. That's Devine's job and he actually knows the debth, and details. We don't. Oh, and we need to stop being tribal to the point we're dancing around and making excuses for Putin's interferences in our democracy.

[Sherman A1]

36. Precisely

but, guilt by association works well for those who choose to accept the tactic. Had he worked for another candidate me thinks there would be nary a peep.

[Wwcd]

38. Lol. Nary a peep from that side, but Woo Boy would the other side be howling!

Works both ways.

[Tarheel_Dem]

48. That's just it, he would never have even been asked "another candidate", so "nary a peep"....

was needed. I'm assuming when you say "another candidate", you mean the Clinton campaign?

[dawg day]

126. Would Clinton have hired him?

Why?

[Tarheel_Dem]

127. No she wouldn't. He would've been vetted, and his associations would have prevented him from EVER..

joining the Clinton campaign.

[KPN]

115. Exactly. A lot to do about nothing. It all

boils down to fealty.

[rainin]

56. That's inconvenient for the Bernie haters.

[George II]

13. That was years earlier.

[dogman]

23. What is the time frame for conspiracy theory?

[George II]

27. Conspiracy theory? How has this suddenly become a conspiracy theory?

[dogman]

29. Read the thread.

Suddenly people find Bernie involved.

[herding cats]

32. Of course they do.

As I said the optics are bad. Actually, they're terrible. This doesn't negate anything, and if anything it creates all the more reason why it needs to be discussed intelligently.

Which doesn't mean dismissing it out of hand as a Trump tactic. This happened. This is real.

[dogman]

35. Not discussing it intelligently.

T-Rump would never do that. To talk intelligently we need to go beyond a Kevin Bacon game. Bernie is not named in these lists. Why shouldn't we look at all of Tad's previous employers?

[herding cats]

37. Bernie is going to be mentioned because his Chief Strategist was mentioned by Mueller

Devine also was apparently still involved with Manafort in 2014, not 2010 as previously claimed. Which removed a layer of deniability. 2014 is the same year he went to work for Bernie. Now Devine is involved in the investigation into the Russians involvement in 2016. This. Looks. Bad.

People are naturally going to connect the dots as they appear. This needs to be addressed not ignored.

[Tarheel_Dem]

54. Buckle up. This is going to get very bumpy for the Sanders campaign. We already know that Russia..

was doing its best to aid all of Hillary's competitors. That's just a fact. What's uncomfortable for you is that the campaign managers for two of those competitors were in business together, and this smells to high heaven of collusion. Tad Devine is probably a Russian asset just like Manafort, and they happened to manage the campaigns of DJT & BS. Hmmmmm......

[dogman]

57. Yes, a great conspiracy theory.

So why can't we extrapolate and tie Gore and Kerry to it?

[Tarheel_Dem]

59. Because Devine lied about when he quit working with Manafort? If it was 2010, why was he still...

invoicing in 2014 when he was managing the Sanders campaign?

[dogman]

62. And Gore lost an election he won, and Kerry lost an election he should have won.

Why? Seems Devine was up to something. Maybe Bernie got to close to the Democratic Party by hiring him?

[Tarheel_Dem]

67. 2000 & 2004. We're talking about 2014. Please try & keep up. n/t

[RandomAccess]

80. I think the invoice was from June while

Devine joined Sanders in November. Read back upthread to make sure I've got that right. But I don't think there was the overlap you suggest.

[pnwmom]

45. Bernie is involved because Devine was in touch with Kilminick, the intelligence officer,

asking for "talking points," just months before he officially hired on with Bernie in November.

And Politico wrote in March 2016 about a campaign brainstorming meeting Devine had had with Bernie and others around March 2014.

[dogman]

60. So what exactly is your theory?

[pnwmom]

63. My theory is that Manafort's trial will start next week and we'll know more.

I personally doubt Bernie was complicit, but it's harder for me to believe Devine was in the dark. He was the one who sent the email asking the Russian, Kliminick, for "talking points" between a March 2014 pre-campaign meeting with Bernie and getting hired officially in November.

If Devine is involved, then his Old Towne Media company is probably getting looked at. Devine made a lot of money during the campaign through there.

[dogman]

66. Agreed.

But Devine was involved in other failed Democratic Presidential campaigns. If he is corrupt, how corrupt is he? And if it's guilt by association, we have to remember he was a long time Democratic operative, so that seems a slippery slope.

[pnwmom]

70. He was involved with them in 2000 and 2004, prior to getting mixed up

with the Putin bunch, which seems to have started in 2006.

And yeah, it's a slippery slope, but we can't ignore it if/when it happens on our side of the hill.

[Cha]

52. Just a buzzword to try

anything to protect you know who.

[pnwmom]

44. Because 2000 and 2004 were both BEFORE 2006, the first time

Devine seems to have worked for the Ukrainian.

[QC]

98. That doesn't serve the purpose of rehashing the 2016 campaign. n/t

[bettyellen]

101. They're not too relevant here- did they work w Manafort too?

Or Russian spies?

[Gothmog]

8. From the Hoarse Whisperer

Link to tweet

[George II]

10. Not just "in contact", they worked together for years, and communicated most recently in 2014.

Devine Mulvey Longabaugh, mentioned several times in the exhibit list (including invoices to Manafort) was the 9th highest recipient of funds from the Sanders campaign (about $5.2M)

[csziggy]

11. Washington Post story that was the source for this RawStory post

Special counsel has nearly 500 pieces of evidence for Paul Manafort trial
by Rachel Weiner July 19 at 11:50 AM

Pictures of Paul Manafort’s homes, cars, $21,000 watch and high-end clothing may be displayed for jurors at his trial beginning in Alexandria federal court next week, according to a list of nearly 500 potential exhibits published by prosecutors Wednesday evening.

<SNIP>

There will also be email communication between Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, and Tad Devine, a Democratic consultant who worked for the same Ukrainian politician.

It is the work Manafort did for Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and his political party that is at the center of the criminal charges against him in both Alexandria and D.C. federal court.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/special-counsel-has-nearly-500-pieces-of-evidence-for-paul-manafort-trial/2018/07/19/31686cb2-8b68-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.75e63b6d5a98

The New York Post has even more information on the Manafort-Devine linkage:

Evidence against Manafort includes emails to Bernie’s top strategist

By Bob Fredericks
July 19, 2018 | 3:16pm

Special counsel Robert Mueller has released a list of 500 potential exhibits for Paul Manafort’s upcoming trial, including photos of his homes, cars, a pricey watch — and emails between Manafort and Tad Devine, Bernie Sanders’ top strategist in the presidential campaign.

Devine, a veteran political strategist, worked for Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and his pro-Kremlin Party of Regions at the time, as did Manafort, the Washington Post reported.

Their email exchanges continued until the spring of 2014, and Devine went to work for Sanders later that year.

Devine — who worked for Sanders in the 1990s and also worked as an aide to Al Gore, John Kerry and Michael Dukakis on their campaigns — also communicated with Rick Gates, who pleaded guilty to conspiracy and making false statements in the Mueller probe, according to the filing.

His name appears 16 times in the documents.

More: https://nypost.com/2018/07/19/evidence-against-manafort-includes-emails-to-bernies-top-strategist/

[Anon-C]

12. I'm trying not to say I told you so.

[erronis]

16. Political operatives (or analysts/pundits/whatever) are probably the slimiest critters

After the congressional ones. And even worse than new/old car salespeople (new and old ones.)

When a politician chooses an operative he/she is knowingly entering into a relationship that might help and can hurt their cause. It's too early to cast aspersions on Bernie but I'd really like to know the background. (Same for the Podestas and Rahm Immanuel and the sleezebags that follow the repuglcons everywhere.)

[yallerdawg]

18. I have been waiting for the books telling the story about this campaign!

Now I'll have to read testimony from a trial?

That explains why no books!

[RandySF]

26. Uh oh

[underthematrix]

34. This is why folks should be cautious about supporting Alexandria

because Russia doesn't care which side we're on. Their goal is to take down the US

I'm not saying go negative about any first time DEM candidate. All I'm saying is be cautious.

[theaocp]

71. What's to be cautious about?

She's the Democratic nominee for her district. Full stop.

[underthematrix]

73. I was just given my third notice for bigotry and insensitivity

So I'm going to reply in a way that I hope will make you happy.

I like her. I congratulated her. I've retweeted some of her really great tweets. I'm just saying she's spreading her wings wide and fast and in that sense we should be careful about helping her nationalize her campaign. We don't know where her money is coming from. We don't know who's advising her.

I think she's a great candidate and a winnable one for her district.

[Scurrilous]

39. K&R

[The_jackalope]

40. I'm cool with the idea that Bernie

is a Russian agent of influence. Same goes for Jill "Red is the new Green" Stein. There are too many coincidences swirling around both of them for me to believe otherwise.

Hillary was clean.

[Duppers]

47. Grief. Et tu?

We don't know the details yet?

I'll wait before I stomp but if there is damaging information, I shall scream.

[left-of-center2012]

41. Guilty by association?

"Devine and Sanders had worked together on campaigns in the 1990s,
and the Democratic strategist has also worked as a campaign aide to Al Gore, John Kerry, and Michael Dukakis."

[Duppers]

49. Thank you!!

[pnwmom]

50. Not analogous. Devine worked for Gore and Kerry in 2000 and 2004, BEFORE

he started work in the first Putin guy's campaign (2006.)

None of the evidence Mueller included in his list involved either Gore or Kerry.

It did however show emails involving Devine and Manafort, Gates, Kilminick in April and June of 2014. In the June meeting Devine asked KK for "talking points."

Politico wrote in March 2016 about a campaign brainstorming meeting Devine had with Bernie about March 2014. He officially joined the campaign in November 2014.

[Tarheel_Dem]

55. Sounds like Tad may have "evolved" after so many losses. He clearly lied about his association....

with Manafort.

[RandomAccess]

81. Did he? WHere?

[bettyellen]

103. Apparently he got paid in 2014, when he was already talking to Sanders. Scary.

[RandomAccess]

105. I was asking about where he lied --

those may be facts you've cited, but as written it doesn't describe a lie. Can you be more explicit?

[bettyellen]

108. Apparently he said they hadn't worked together since 2010- yet four years later, he cashed checks

And sought advice on talking points from Ine of the Russians (while beginning work for Sanders). The overlap there looks pretty damning. I doubt Sanders has any idea.

[RandomAccess]

117. Thanks

I'm still unclear on the timeline - and therefore the true facts -- but at least I understand what the allegation is all about.

[bettyellen]

120. There appears to be a bit of overlap for Devine w Manafort and the Russian and his

Early meetings w Bernie. I’d not be shocked if they found some common ground.

[Cryptoad]

46. Does this mean that,,,,,

Bernie is Russian Agent??????

[comradebillyboy]

129. A useful...

[marble falls]

51. Put some of that dunder towards November. If there's anything to it Mueller's got it ...

under control.

Didn't Jimmy Carter at one time or another monitor elections there, too?

[Boomer]

53. As a Sanders supporter in the primary.....

I would not be surprised to learn that there were Russian operatives in the campaign because it appears the Russians were infiltrating any political crevice where they could get a grip and chip away at Clinton's campaign.

I would not be surprised to learn that the operatives influenced decisions in the Sanders campaign because that was the whole point, right? To get into positions of influence and destabilize our nation.

I WOULD, however, be surprised to learn that Bernie Sanders was aware of that infiltration and the Russian agenda within his campaign. But if evidence emerges that this was the case, I'd listen. Because I expect Trump and the GOPers to listen. We have to accept that the tentacles of this assault on our democracy run far and dive deep. Now it's a matter of finding them all.

[rainin]

58. You're ruining the moment. There are people who want us all to draw one conclusion...

that Bernie and Jill Stein colluded with the Russians to defeat Hillary Clinton. It won't matter than there is no evidence that Bernie did anything of the sort. He was a candidate who ran a strong campaign against Hillary and was defeated in the primary. There are many Bernie supporters here at DU who supported Hillary in the general.

The Bernie haters never stop.

[JI7]

84. Jill Stein IS a Putin troll. she is spewing the Clinton uranium one bs

and she was in the meeting with putin and other Russians along with flynn.

[rainin]

86. Yes, she is. I don't think Bernie is. Sorry I was unclear.

[mvd]

96. I trust Bernie on this. His campaign was very genuine and he's honorable

Bernie has always been a moderate on Russia. And I agree to an extent. They are an adversary and the meddling must be strongly responded to. But we do not want war.

[pnwmom]

64. That's basically how I feel, too. nt

[LiberalLovinLug]

68. The voice of reason

In a sea of hate

Thank you

[George II]

69. I think the issue is, was his chief political strategist aware of it?

[herding cats]

76. That's it in a nutshell.

It's even possible, at this point, Devine was an unwitting asset to Putin. If he was one at all. All that remains to be seen as this unfolds. In any case, a little forewarning isn't ever a bad thing.

We need to address the situation head on and learn from it. I don't want to see any Democrats falling prey to Russia ever again. Wittingly, unwittingly or as targets. One way we avoid that is by learning from what took place in 2016.

[RandomAccess]

82. We also have to accept that threads like this --

SO divisive, SO eager to paint our own, our friends, our allies as dangerous political enemies or traitors, serves Putin's agenda very, very well.

TBH, I don't know if Devine is dirty, but I don't think so -- certainly not from what I've learned so far, which isn't much. AFAIC, that Devine invoiced Manafort means nothing without a lot more context and detail. MANAFORT's the one on trial. Let's wait to damn and condemn Devine until we have some actual dirt on him. Just showing up as a Manafort vendor doesn't get us there IMO.

Let's see, for example, if he shows up as one of those getting immunity for testifying against Manafort. Let's see if he gets indicted or pleads.

None of that has happened yet -- that we know of. And, in the meantime, Putin wins.

[Boomer]

87. Putin wins either way

Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that Devine is NOT under Russian influence, directly or indirectly. His association with Manafort undermines his credibility, there's no denying that, and the debate over his guilt or innocence divides one faction of voters. His influence wanes.

Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that Devine IS acting with Russia's interests in mind. The debate over his guilt or innocence rages, but he still continues to maintain some credibility with people who steadfastly believe in his innocence.

My inclination was to extend the benefit of the doubt, just on principle, until someone on DU or Twitter (losing track, events are moving so quickly) posted some of the absolutely vile and vicious things Devine has said about Clinton. And that did give me pause. If he's not a Russian tool, he's just as bad as one.

[Tarheel_Dem]

85. Bernie has cast some curious votes re: Russia, and totally out of synch with his Dem colleagues....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2114385

[Boomer]

99. So I looked up this statement

And was quite relieved to find that Bernie Sanders DID vote for a stronger version of the Magnitsky Act. Now I'm wondering why someone is trying to spread the disinformation that he was against it.

[KPN]

111. And it's been going on here for a long time no less. Magnitsky Act, Magnitsky Act,

Magnitsky Act with no consideration of actual facts. You are not the first to make this point.

Strikes me as all about fealty frankly.

[Tarheel_Dem]

125. Cool cover story if you believe his reasons for not voting with Democrats on two Russia bills.

I don't believe his reasons, and if you do, more power to you.

[rockfordfile]

97. I wouldn't be surprised

More and more. How could he not know.

[tiredtoo]

65. Russia's goal is to divide Democrats.

Seems they may be doing a good job.

[DavidDvorkin]

72. Oh, it doesn't really matter

And even if it does really matter, then it still ... um ... doesn't matter.

[mvd]

75. I really don't think it affected the campaign

Bernie was never weak on Russia at all. Still, it shows how their connections have been everywhere. With Trump of course the biggest one!

[George II]

83. He is the only Senator to vote against both the Magnitsky Act and Russia Sanctions.

Those votes were 92-4 and 98-2, respectively.

[GulfCoast66]

88. Not weighing in on the main issue of this thread cause it is just shit slinging

But you are wrong about Bernie and Russia. He has been very weak. One of 4 votes against the Magintsky act and one of 2 against increased sanctions to punish them for attacking our election system.

We already know that Russia actively supported Bernie in the primary and after. It was in the initial report. It is only a matter of time till we learn the details. Even though Bernie was not aware the details will not be pretty.

Fuck Russia.

[mvd]

89. I disagree all around - except the trouble these threads cause

He has never been weak on Russia. Agree with it or not, he wanted to protect the Iran deal with his sanctions vote. He has had plenty of votes against Russia. Have to look at the whole record. And I expect no more bad details on Bernie to come out.

[Boomer]

100. More disinformation against Sanders?

These allegations against Sanders motivated me to dig deeper and what I found was that Sanders voted against weak versions of the Magnitsky Act and FOR the stronger version.

So yeah, we're all being played in every way possible.

[AtomicKitten]

133. Despite being repeatedly corrected on this,

some just ignore this fact and continue to repeat the narrative that was crafted to damage Bernie by any means necessary. I am amazed/appalled by the dis/misinformation being peddled here where truth has been rendered irrelevant.

[Power 2 the People]

107. Wow..Devine worked on both Gore and Kerry's campaign and then with Manafort

What could that mean????

[Pachamama]

110. That he is a whore?

That he goes where the money and opportunity is to make it.....

The real question is - Who was paying?

[Power 2 the People]

112. I think you're right Pachamama

Maybe he is just a hired gun who works on any campaign that will hire him. It would appear that his loyalty is to a paycheck rather than an ideology. Looks like the Gore,Kerry and Sanders campaigns were just hiring an employee who knew the logistics of running a presidential campaign.

I guess a perfect example would be Kelly Ann Conway. She butchered Trump for Cruz in the primaries. Once Trump hired her he could do no wrong. Political operatives like this serve only one person - themselves.

[KPN]

113. Much to do about absolutely nothing. Did anyone here actually look at the evidence list

submitted by Mueller? I did (link below to article with pdf). Likely this is simply about clearly connecting Manafort to the laundered money. The emails go to show what work was being done for whom and by whom.

Nothing incriminating re: Devine at this point. Seems like there would have been an indictment of him as well had there been a reason for doing so.

Meh.

[Wwcd]

116. Tad & his company is STILL working for bernie. btw.

Figures.
We see it everywhere.
That little Devine/Manafort connection needs to be blown wide open.
Thank you Robert Mueller.

[Maxheader]

123. Never cared much for sanders...

[Power 2 the People]

128. Somebody should have told Bernie that nobody was allowed to run against Hillary

Would have saved us,the DNC and the Russians a lot of time and aggravation.

[NurseJackie]

131. Excellent advice.

[ehrnst]

132. Interesting. (nt)