Americans can legally download 3-D printed guns starting next month

[DonViejo]

Source: CNN



By David Williams, CNN

Updated 5:34 PM ET, Thu July 19, 2018

(CNN) - Gun-rights activists have reached a settlement with the government that will allow them to post 3-D printable gun plans online starting August 1.

The settlement ends a multi-year legal battle that started when Cody Wilson, who describes himself as a post-left anarchist, posted plans for a 3-D printed handgun he called "The Liberator" in 2013.

The single-shot pistol was made almost entirely out of of ABS plastic -- the same stuff they make Lego bricks out of -- that could be made on a 3-D printer. The only metal parts were the firing pin and a piece of metal included to comply with the Undetectable Firearms Act.

The US State Department told Wilson and his non-profit group Defense Distributed to take down the plans. It said the plans could violate International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), which regulate the export of defense materials, services and technical data.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/19/us/3d-printed-gun-settlement-trnd/index.html?utm_content=2018-07-19T21%3A52%3A07&utm_medium=social&utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNN

[calimary]

1. OMFG

[FraDon]

2. Is Chertoff waiting in his warehouse

filled to the roof with his new plastic scanners, ready to roll out to all transportation centers, border crossings, public buildings and all schools? ~ Chi-ching.

[aquamarina]

3. Good Grief

What could possible go wrong.........

[ffr]

4. Finally. This is going to make a difference in my life.

Or death.

[Hoyt]

5. At least for the time-being, a one-shooter won't get many gunners excited. They want big ones.

Apparently, 3D guns are only legal if the have a metal plate for detection. We need to review these gun laws because gunners won't be satisfied with one-shooters, so they'll explore more lethal printed weapons. One-shooters just aren't lethal enough to get them off, for lack of a better phrase.

[chowder66]

6. The Whole World should push back on this. nt

[busterbrown]

7. I use to dread getting old... No More..

No fucking more.. Between our Country's love for guns, the increased number of homophobic, misogynistic,
Xenophobic, racists..I'm glad that I'm not 25..

But hear this...!!! If you're young, I'm gonna fight like hell, to rid ourselves of this extreme right wing mess.
I'm not going down w/o a fight!

I think todays development that it will now be legal to print single bullet guns.
Has driven me off the edge.

Anyone else feeling the same?

[JonLP24]

8. post-left anarchist?

[EX500rider]

9. Somebody shoots at me I hope they use a one shot homemade gun...

.....rather then a 17 round Glock etc.

Anybody who can afford a 3D printer can buy a real gun if they want, so meh..

[PoliticAverse]

11. 3D printer kits are down to $100 now btw. n/t

[EX500rider]

13. But so are brand new multi-round firearms.

You can get a 8 round .380 Jimenz Arms made in the USA for around $99.

[EX500rider]

15. I doubt any $100 3D printer is making firearms.

Do you have a link for a $100 3D printer? I'd buy one at that price.

[PoliticAverse]

16. Well just the same type of one shot plastic guns we're mostly talking about...

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Several ebay listings for a this basic type of kit printer (a few bucks over $100 with "make offer" that they'd probably take $100 on).

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=3d+printer+kit&_sacat=0&LH_FS=1&_udlo=100&_udhi=110&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15

Videos from some people that have one of the $100 varients:

The best printer under $200 is considered to be the Creality Ender 3 - $ 190 delivered from US warehouse:
https://www.banggood.com/Creality-3D-Ender-3-V-slot-Prusa-I3-DIY-3D-Printer-Kit-220x220x250mm-Printing-Size-p-1278399.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=USA

(there are many youtube reviews including a couple of people completely assembling one).

[eggplant]

14. I had this same thought.

3D printed guns aren't used for crimes of opportunity. Relatively speaking, they will never comprise more than the tiniest of fractions of the gun population out there. Criminals will continue to use cheap, stolen weapons. This doesn't add risk.

[LanternWaste]

21. Same was said about the now-$25 printer that comes with free ink.

"Anybody who can afford a 3D printer can buy a real..."

So, meh, indeed.

[EX500rider]

23. I doubt anybody ever said anything about ink printers Vs gun purchase.

My point still stands, I'd much rather be shot at by a poorly made 1 shot plastic gun then any firearm going back to the late 1800's.

[AZ8theist]

10. what can possibly go wrong..

[PoliticAverse]

12. The government was destined to lose, due to the Supreme Court's 1st amendment interpretation.

[Devil Child]

17. A settlement that is supportive of 1st and 2nd amendment rights is a win for me n/t

[sakabatou]

18. And if the gun was stolen, how the hell can it be traced to its owner?

[MicaelS]

19. This whole pursuit of printed guns...

Is just a great big "Fuck You" to the advocates of Gun Control.

They are trying to prove that if you can print a gun, all Gun Control is useless, and shouldn't even be attempted.

I say "Fuck You" to people with that mindset. It's way past time for major Gun Control in this country.

[PoliticAverse]

20. Sen. Chuck Schumer warns of coming online blueprints for 'ghost guns'

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pol-schumer-ghost-guns-20180722-story.html

[inwiththenew]

22. This is going to be a bigger problem for European and other countries with strict gun laws

Here in the US anyone who wants a gun is going to get a real one and with 300+ million in circulation that will probably be the case for the next 30-40 years regardless of what laws are passed so I don't really see this fundamentally changing anything here. In Europe or other places with strict laws this could be a problem.

[jmowreader]

24. Every gang in America is now pricing 3d printers

We’re talkin’ zip guns here, and if you think the gangs aren’t going to make files to print zip guns that look like e-cigs or something...think again.

And yes, it would be better to be shot at from a distance with a printed gun than a factory-made one...but no one’s going to use them that way. It’ll be more likely someone would walk up to you and stick the thing in your belly.

Now...what’ll be entertaining is the reaction of the far right when people start using printed guns to mug them of their manufactured guns. “How could they ever do this to us?” Well,,,because you wanted it that way. If anyone can get a gun without a scrap of paper standing in their way, eventually all the people you don’t want to have guns will get them.

[xor]

27. I don't know if this is going to increase that risk as much as some are saying

If these gangs want easily concealable guns, then they already have connections that can provide them with far more reliable firearms. The same goes for terrorists and other such organized bad folks. The larger risk is some kid or an idiot trying to print a gun and then blowing his/her fingers off in the process. I don't think anyone is going to go out and buy a 3D printer just because they want a gun that they can shoot people with. People who already have 3D printers and want to screw around with 3D guns will be the majority.

Although, I could also see a problem with the neighborhood idiot or maybe a high school kid who has a printer trying to make these and then selling them to others. I'm not really sure how you can prevent that, though. People can make their own models to print, or even find them on the internet (legal or not) The only real way to prevent it would be to make 3D printers illegal. Not sure that's a route most people want to go down. We'd also have to make desktop CNC machines illegal, because those too allow people to create dangerous devices. I suppose draconian laws against 3D printers or even homemade firearms of any sort may be a solution, but prohibition rarely works as planned. In fact, it often times seems to have the opposite effect.

[melm00se]

25. This is one of those things

that even if the Supreme Court ruled opposite than they did and a law could have been passed but there would be absolutely no way to enforce it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. WTF?!?!?!?!