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appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:43 PM Jul 2018

Thousands of Canadian Mothers Were Forced To Give Up Their Babies. Some Were Told To 'Get A Puppy'

Source: Washington Post

TORONTO — Their stories would not seem out of place in an episode of “The Handmaid's Tale”: pregnant women shuttered away, violently restrained during childbirth, banned from looking at their babies — and, finally, coerced by social workers into signing adoption papers.

More than a half-century after unmarried and largely non-consenting Canadian women were sent to maternity homes to give birth in relative secrecy, a report released Thursday by a Senate committee acknowledges a “disturbing chapter” in Canadian history, when the country’s adoption policies led to hundreds of thousands of unwed mothers being forced to give up their babies for adoption.

The report calls on the federal government to issue a formal apology for what it characterizes as a “common practice” from 1945 to the 1970s that has been “shrouded in secrecy.”

“There is another Scoop that needs to be acknowledged,” Art Eggleton, the senator who chaired the committee, told reporters. (He was referring to the “Sixties Scoop,” a 1960s government program that separated thousands of indigenous children from their families and put them up for adoption by non-indigenous parents.)...more..

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/thousands-of-canadian-mothers-were-forced-to-give-up-their-babies-some-were-told-to-%e2%80%98get-a-puppy%e2%80%99-instead/ar-BBKRHC1



The report says that the “unethical” policy was in part rooted in the societal mores of the postwar period, when the social stigma of unwed women having “illegitimate” children and raising them in a nontraditional “nuclear family” was so significant that many women were sent to wait out their pregnancies at maternity homes, often run by religious groups or the Salvation Army..
According to Origins Canada, a nonprofit that helps people who have been separated from family members by adoption, it was thought that women who gave birth at maternity homes could be “made marriageable” again or “rehabilitated.”
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Thousands of Canadian Mothers Were Forced To Give Up Their Babies. Some Were Told To 'Get A Puppy' (Original Post) appalachiablue Jul 2018 OP
Back to the bad old days of the 60's for women saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #1
The 60s, 50s, 40s, earlier. Regressive, ultra conservative times, policies. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #2
Liberal governments for the majority of the period OnlinePoker Jul 2018 #9
In Spain during the fascist regime of dictator Franco (1939-1975) appalachiablue Jul 2018 #23
My God underpants Jul 2018 #3
FUCKING patriarchy and religious BS. "rehabilitated"??? "made mariageable" FUCKING woman-hating niyad Jul 2018 #4
And of course the men who impregnated these women were never even questioned. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #5
exactly!!! niyad Jul 2018 #7
Of course not, they're not responsible for their actions or sperm... appalachiablue Jul 2018 #11
What you said. Solly Mack Jul 2018 #14
Exactly so, niyad. Call it it what it is. suffragette Jul 2018 #17
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #6
Same thing happened in the US. Wwcd Jul 2018 #8
Go Sharice Davids! SunSeeker Jul 2018 #12
Good for Sharice Davids in KS & shame on US treatment of Native people. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #27
We can now lift her voice to speak above the shame of what was done to her people. Wwcd Jul 2018 #29
YYYYYY for Sharice Davids!! niyad Jul 2018 #30
My brother was born in a U. S. maternity home in the early 40's. Luckily, my mother was not forced Arkansas Granny Jul 2018 #10
I shared an office with a woman who gave birth to her first child in one during the 1960s. GoCubsGo Jul 2018 #19
K&R bdamomma Jul 2018 #13
The Catholic Church ran plenty of these homes for unwed mothers kskiska Jul 2018 #15
WHAT???????? ailsagirl Jul 2018 #16
It happened in many other countries too, some others noted here... appalachiablue Jul 2018 #24
Canada wasn't alone in this. For a US perspective I highly recommend the book.... WePurrsevere Jul 2018 #18
I was just coming to recommend that book! kimmylavin Jul 2018 #20
It certainly was that. It took me quite a while to read it... WePurrsevere Jul 2018 #21
Sound familiar? lunasun Jul 2018 #22
Christian groups amcgrath Jul 2018 #25
Eugenics were part of the Swedish socialism tirebiter Jul 2018 #26
Indeed & few people know the reach & span of eugenics policies appalachiablue Jul 2018 #28

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
2. The 60s, 50s, 40s, earlier. Regressive, ultra conservative times, policies.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:53 PM
Jul 2018

Still exists worldwide but for strong democratic societies.

*From the article:
"The report says that the practice of forcing unwed women to give up their babies for adoption was also common in the United Kingdom, the United States, New Zealand and Australia..Australia’s Senate conducted a study of the practice in its country that resulted in a national apology in 2013 by the then-prime minister."

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
9. Liberal governments for the majority of the period
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:18 PM
Jul 2018

Aside from one Conservative government from '57 to '63.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
23. In Spain during the fascist regime of dictator Franco (1939-1975)
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 11:24 AM
Jul 2018

babies were 'gifted' to other people loyal to regime when birth mothers were deemed too 'republican.' Franco died in 1975, Spain went back to being a democracy but the practice of the 'ninos robados,' stolen babies, carried on into the 1980s. A film is now being made to expose the terrible policy.
In Nazi Germany, babies from the lebensborn program were placed with families; young children in occupied countries like Poland were taken and placed with German families if their appearance was aryan, blond and blue eyed.

During Argentina's state military dictatorship, 1976-1983, women considered dissidents had their children taken from them, 'disappeared.' The 'Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo' (Buenos Aires) are still looking for their lost children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francoist_Spain
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016209288

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_of_the_Plaza_de_Mayo

niyad

(113,232 posts)
4. FUCKING patriarchy and religious BS. "rehabilitated"??? "made mariageable" FUCKING woman-hating
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:00 PM
Jul 2018

assholes.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
8. Same thing happened in the US.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:14 PM
Jul 2018

It was, as they say:
"the “unethical” policy was in part rooted in the societal mores of the postwar period, when the social stigma of unwed women having “illegitimate” children and raising them in a nontraditional “nuclear family” was so significant that many women were sent to wait out their pregnancies at maternity homes, often run by religious groups or the Salvation Army..

Homes for unwed mothers.
Young women sent away to carry their pregnancy to full term & only occasionally did they return with their child.

Only with the debut of the women's movement (thank you Gloria Steinam et al) and the 'The Pill' were young women gradually recognized as having ownership over their reproductive rights.

The days referred to in the artucle is when Trump & his KKKristians yearn to return to.
The days when Patriarchy "made America great", for godly white men, only.

I recall the State I grew up in did this same thing to Native American children.
Normalized them in the world of patriarchial white men.

Laws were changed since then and Native children now remain 1st with their Native families.

That is why I fully support Dem Sharice Davids for Kansas' 3rd congressional district in the U.S. House



BIO
Sharice Davids is a dedicated community leader who is running to fight for Kansans in Congress.

She was raised by her single mother, who is a U.S. Army veteran, in Leavenworth and learned the value of hard work and service from a young age.

As a member of the Ho-Chunk Nation, Sharice could make history as the first Native American woman elected to Congress. “It wasn't part of my decision. [...] but I'm definitely proud to be part of this time in history,” she has said.


Sharice studied business administration at the University of Missouri-Kansas City and received her law degree from Cornell Law School.

She worked for a law firm in Kansas City on issues including economic development for Native American tribes.
She then went on to live and work on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.

Sharice served as a White House Fellow during the final year of the Obama administration.

Most recently, Sharice hosted a podcast called “Starty Pants,” where she interviewed entrepreneurs and investors.

She has also competed in mixed martial arts tournaments, fighting both professionally and as an amateur.

In addition to making history as the first Native American woman in Congress, Sharice could also be the first openly gay member of the Kansas congressional delegation and the first Democratic woman to represent the 3rd District.

An opportunity to flip a seat and take back the House

Sharice is challenging Congressman Kevin Yoder, a vulnerable Republican who has been advancing his party’s dangerous agenda at the expense of the working families he was elected to serve.

“Kevin Yoder no longer represents the people of Kansas,” she has said. “He is now a rubber stamp for the Trump administration and the big-money donors who have fueled his campaigns.”
This is an opportunity to flip a seat and win back the House for Democrats.
**************************

Honestly, this remarkable young woman embodies the Past, Present & Future face of America.

Honor, dignity, fairness & fight.
What an Impressive candidate we have been given to carry our torch forward this year.

She represents every person that Trump's White Male Patriarchy mocks & refuses to represent.


No woman or man who recognizes the struggle as written in the OP article, should be voting against a woman who has lived their similar struggles.

VOTE SHARICE DAVIDS ~ Kansas' 3rd congressional district in the U.S. House

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
29. We can now lift her voice to speak above the shame of what was done to her people.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:50 PM
Jul 2018

She is truly the epitome of the struggle of the American woman.

Love all she is.
Vote Sharice, donate to support her through her campaign & thru the greatest advocates for women in politics, EMILYS LIST.


They are the Women's 'Union' for advancing women in politics, to keep women's rights a human right, once & for all ~

Notice what groups are suddenly out there vocally denouncing EMILYS LIST.
Yup, same ones working to destroy the Democratic Party, of all citizens.

The harder they try to break us, the stronger a force we become.





Arkansas Granny

(31,513 posts)
10. My brother was born in a U. S. maternity home in the early 40's. Luckily, my mother was not forced
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:22 PM
Jul 2018

to give him up, though many of the girls and young women did so voluntarily. Others were forced by family to give up their babies or be disowned. Some of the stories she told were just heartbreaking.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
19. I shared an office with a woman who gave birth to her first child in one during the 1960s.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:09 PM
Jul 2018

Her family forced her to give up the daughter, but I'm not sure she opposed it, either. She didn't have anything nice to say about the home. I guess she and the other residents were not treated very well. She was a nutjob, and I wonder if she got that way from being in the maternity home, or if it just exacerbated existing issues.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
15. The Catholic Church ran plenty of these homes for unwed mothers
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:57 PM
Jul 2018

There was one in Hartford, Connecticut in the 60s - St. Agnes Home. One would never leave with a baby.
Shades of "The Magdelene Sisters" film depicting those homes in Ireland.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
18. Canada wasn't alone in this. For a US perspective I highly recommend the book....
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 05:49 PM
Jul 2018
The Girls Who Went Away by Ann Fessler. The situation wasn't any better for girls in other countries either.

As an adoptee who's recently in reunion, I have some pretty strong opinions on not only how awful young pregnant women were so often treated but how so many of them, bio fathers, bio families, and adoptees themselves were and still are treated.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
21. It certainly was that. It took me quite a while to read it...
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 10:45 PM
Jul 2018

It was emotionally painful for me but as an adoptee I wanted to know a bit how my bio mother might have felt (it must have been even more painful for her since she didn't give me up until I was 9 months old). I've since found my bio families (thanks to DNA testing and sleuthing) and learned from a maternal half sibling that our mother mourned having to give me up until the day she died of brain cancer in her early 50s.


lunasun

(21,646 posts)
22. Sound familiar?
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 11:24 PM
Jul 2018

“There is another Scoop that needs to be acknowledged,” Art Eggleton, the senator who chaired the committee, told reporters. (He was referring to the “Sixties Scoop,” a 1960s government program that separated thousands of indigenous children from their families and put them up for adoption by non-indigenous parents.)...more..

amcgrath

(397 posts)
25. Christian groups
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jul 2018

Have a long history of exploiting mothers and babies. Their utter shamelessness extends to intimidating and coercing governments into allowing them to oversee such 'social programmes'.

It has been horrifying to watch Federal and State governments in recent years handing over more and more social programs to Christian organizations. They can - and do - abuse their power horribly.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
28. Indeed & few people know the reach & span of eugenics policies
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:37 PM
Jul 2018

well into the 2nd half of the 20th c. In 2013 there was a group settlement for impacted residents of NC, VA, CA and other states who had been sterilized or harmed via state social programs since the 1940s I think- for being (loosely) viewed as 'mentally unfit,' including men and poor people who were defenseless. Just appalling policy!

Huff Post: 'The barbaric neutering sounds like something from a dystopian fiction. But it is very much a reality, a shameful era in American history that finally ended less than 40 years ago. And only now is the state of North Carolina — inarguably the most extreme case of forced sterilization in the United States — attempting to right its wrongs. The state has budgeted $10 million to go to the victims of a long and relentless eugenics program.

>From 1929 until 1974, an estimated 7,600 North Carolinians, men and women alike, were sterilized in a eugenics movement that swept the country, with 31 other states at some point taking part in the practice.
The standards by which an individual could be forcibly sterilized in the state were also some of the most lax in the nation. Unmarried women with children, African Americans, individuals with an I.Q. under 70, the mentally ill and children from poor families were just some of the many groups all routinely sought out and sterilized." More..

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/north-carolina-eugenics-sterilization-victims-offered-funds_n_3657982.html

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