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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 04:50 PM Jul 2018

Disney fires James Gunn from 'Guardians of the Galaxy' after old tweets unearthed by Cernovich

Source: The Hill



Director James Gunn has been fired from the upcoming movie sequel "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3" after old tweets containing offensive jokes about pedophilia and rape were unearthed by far-right activists.

Disney confirmed Gunn's firing in a statement Friday.

"The offensive attitudes and statements discovered on James' Twitter feed are indefensible and inconsistent with our studio's values, and we have severed our business relationship with him," Disney Studios Chairman Alan Horn told Variety.

Gunn's firing occurred just hours after messages from pundits Mike Cernovich and Jack Posobiec, -- who are known for pushing conspiracy theories, including about a murdered Democratic National Committee staffer -- went viral with images of old tweets from Gunn joking about pedophilia and other sexual crimes.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/398114-disney-director-fired-after-old-tweets-unearthed-by-far-right



Disney rushes to judgment and caves to rape apologist, Pizzagate nut and Set Rich troofer "Weird Mike" Cernovich digging up 9-year-old facetious posts (which Gunn apologized for years ago) and distorting their context, handing the neo-nazi alt right another scalp and ruining a career.

Did they not learn anything from what MSNBC went through with the Seder smear? And now they've killed the creative direction of one of their most successful franchises.

The moral watchdog, in action:

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Disney fires James Gunn from 'Guardians of the Galaxy' after old tweets unearthed by Cernovich (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2018 OP
Gunn was one of the most vocal against the Dump Alt-Orange Jul 2018 #1
For the life of me, I don't understand why men make these kinds of "jokes" TexasBushwhacker Jul 2018 #2
Here's the joke Buzz cook Jul 2018 #3
Have you read some of the other tweets? metalbot Jul 2018 #4
They apparently didn't mind it when they hired him Docreed2003 Jul 2018 #6
I think the bigger issue here is why he'd tweet these kind of things to begin with ansible Jul 2018 #12
Again, I'm not trying to take up for the guy Docreed2003 Jul 2018 #13
I've known middle school boys who had more class and better judgement TexasBushwhacker Jul 2018 #18
Holy hand grenades ! Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2018 #8
Family Guy and South Park do worse Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2018 #11
This...agree a hundred percent Docreed2003 Jul 2018 #14
Please provide examples TexasBushwhacker Jul 2018 #19
Here you go. Lib4lif3 Jul 2018 #22
Pretty gross TexasBushwhacker Jul 2018 #23
The old guy with a walker is a pedophile. tammywammy Jul 2018 #26
One of the neighbors (Herbert) is a creepy pedophile. John Fante Jul 2018 #29
I think Family Guy is funny. Cold War Spook Jul 2018 #25
No I have not. You should post them Buzz cook Jul 2018 #20
See post 12 metalbot Jul 2018 #24
OMG boy-tree love! LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #5
At the end of that book Bettie Jul 2018 #10
Despicable move by Disney Devil Child Jul 2018 #7
Cernovich is the bottom inch Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2018 #9
"Despicable move by Disney" LudwigPastorius Jul 2018 #15
Problem is, they knew and dealt with six years ago. haele Jul 2018 #16
Do we acquiesce? LudwigPastorius Jul 2018 #17
What a guy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2018 #21
Yep JackInGreen Jul 2018 #27
I just stopped in to read posts defending Cernovich tenderfoot Jul 2018 #28

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
2. For the life of me, I don't understand why men make these kinds of "jokes"
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 05:12 PM
Jul 2018

Especially on social media.

Rape is not funny - EVER

Pedophilia is not funny - EVER

While I think Disney overreacted, I also think Gunn was a bonehead and I hope Mike Cernovich dies from steroid abuse.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
3. Here's the joke
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:13 PM
Jul 2018

"I'm doing a big Hollywood film adaptation of The Giving Tree, with a happy ending - the tree grows back and gives the kid a blow job."

Obviously a bad joke but just as obviously a joke, not an endorsement of child rape.

On edit.
By the end of the story the "boy" is an adult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giving_Tree#Plot_summary

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
4. Have you read some of the other tweets?
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:57 PM
Jul 2018

Disney isn't being melodramatic when it's saying they are "indefensible".

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
6. They apparently didn't mind it when they hired him
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:33 PM
Jul 2018

Gunn has been very honest about his past tweets when he viewed himself as a provocateur, and those tweets were current during the OME frame they hired him to write and direct the first GotG.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
13. Again, I'm not trying to take up for the guy
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 08:24 AM
Jul 2018

But if you're familiar with his career early on, outrageous, taboo, offensive stuff was his wheelhouse. Gunn has apologized for this in the past and says he's a different person, going so far as removing all the tweets. These are all PRIOR to Disney hiring him for GotG. For Disney to act shocked about them now is just not believable to me, they had to have known about the tweets.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
18. I've known middle school boys who had more class and better judgement
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 07:03 PM
Jul 2018

Why would anyone think these things are funny or okay, EVER?

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
8. Holy hand grenades !
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 10:11 PM
Jul 2018

Not knowing who this was, I looked up his tweets. Sweet Geeesus, this is one sick puppy if he EVER thought that that kind of commentary was amusing. To who ???

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
11. Family Guy and South Park do worse
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:53 AM
Jul 2018

And both are on air. Hell, people celebrate MacFarlane as some forward-thinking visionary.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
19. Please provide examples
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 07:05 PM
Jul 2018

While South Park and Family Guy push the envelope, I don't recall jokes about pedophilia.

Lib4lif3

(11 posts)
22. Here you go.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 12:49 AM
Jul 2018

Quagmire: (subtitled) Hey, can you guys knock it off? I’m banging a chick with epilepsy and you’re giving her a seizure. Actually, keep it up. Everything is seizing. It’s great.

Peter: Women will always band together to stop an offensive art exhibit from coming to town, so I’ve arranged for all my photos of baby wieners to be put on display.

Cleveland: Oh, Peter, I’m gonna have to call the police on this.

Peter: What? Why? It’s to get our wives back together.

Cleveland: Peter, these are hundreds of naked babies in suggestive situations. And their time stamped as far back as 1998, which is way before we had this idea.

Peter: I need help!

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
26. The old guy with a walker is a pedophile.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 01:53 PM
Jul 2018

They're constantly making jokes about him and how he wants to fuck Chris.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
29. One of the neighbors (Herbert) is a creepy pedophile.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:13 PM
Jul 2018

I'm not against gallows humor per se, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't find "Family Guy" hysterically funny, but it's astonishing what that show gets away with.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
25. I think Family Guy is funny.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jul 2018

If the show kept picking on just a few groups of people I would not like it, but they pick on every type of person. They even have a talking dog that has sex with women including getting one pregnant and he has a son, human, by her. Nothing is sacred.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
20. No I have not. You should post them
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 12:16 AM
Jul 2018

And explain why they are indefensible.

I would have thought the
ops link would have had the worst example. Apparently not according to you.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
7. Despicable move by Disney
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:49 PM
Jul 2018

Cernovich is a character assassin and nothing he says should ever be considered outside of alt-right cesspools.

LudwigPastorius

(9,139 posts)
15. "Despicable move by Disney"
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 05:03 PM
Jul 2018

Considering the main business Disney is in, children's entertainment, it is perfectly reasonable for them to fire someone who made a twitter joke about baby rape.

And yes, Cernovich is scum.

haele

(12,650 posts)
16. Problem is, they knew and dealt with six years ago.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 05:46 PM
Jul 2018

And he hasn't posted any BS "edgy" crap since 2011. He fully acknowledged back then that what he had put out in public was unacceptable and stupidly hurtful to people who actually had been harmed in similar situations and apologized, never doing anything like that again. He grew the f*** up.

Unlike Roseanne Barr, who continues to be her old bad self even now.
And that's how Disney f'd up.
They let a proudly self-proclaimed a-hole who regularly says worse in public on a regular basis - who has a hard-on for "kicking hippies and lib'ruls" - use their organization to punish a director who he personally had a political beef with.

Do we acquies to digging up everyone's high school or college years to hunt down any mean, putrid attempts at "edgy adult humor" someone may have uttered just to destroy political "enemies"? I know "s/he should never had said that" but everyone is guilty of saying potentially hurtful things or snark. Except, of course, for Ned Flanders.

Haele

LudwigPastorius

(9,139 posts)
17. Do we acquiesce?
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 06:42 PM
Jul 2018

We may not, but corporations are, for the most part, interested only in earnings. So yeah, they will fire you for past egregious public statements, no matter who brought them back into the limelight, or for what purpose.

With these tweets out there, Gunn was on borrowed time with Disney to begin with.

He'll be fine. He has a seven-figure net worth, and now he can go back to being the edge lord he's wanted to be deep down during his ride with The Mouse.

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