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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 06:11 PM Jul 2018

Justice Dept. Releases Secret Carter Page Surveillance Documents at Center of Partisan Clash

Source: The New York Times



By Charlie Savage
July 21, 2018

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration has disclosed a previously top-secret set of documents related to the wiretapping of Carter Page, the onetime Trump campaign adviser who was at the center of highly contentious accusations by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee that the F.B.I. had abused its surveillance powers.

[Read the documents here.]

Democrats in February rejected the Republican claims that law enforcement officials had improperly obtained the warrant, accusing them of putting out misinformation to defend President Trump and sow doubts about the origin of the Russia investigation. But even as Republicans and Democrats issued dueling memos characterizing the materials underlying the surveillance of Mr. Page, the public had no access to the records.

On Saturday, those materials — an October 2016 application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to wiretap Mr. Page, along with several renewal applications — were released to The New York Times and several other news organizations that had filed Freedom of Information Act lawsuits to obtain them.

“This application targets Carter Page,” the application said. “The F.B.I. believes Page has been the subject of targeted recruitment by the Russian government.” A line was then redacted, and then it picked up with “undermine and influence the outcome of the 2016 U.S. presidential election in violation of U.S. criminal law. Mr. Page is a former foreign policy adviser to a candidate for U.S. president.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/21/us/politics/carter-page-fisa.html

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Justice Dept. Releases Secret Carter Page Surveillance Documents at Center of Partisan Clash (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2018 OP
Guess redaction? "Donald Trump and Russia are colluding to" undermine and influence the outcome...? Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #1
The Miss Universe contest?' DonViejo Jul 2018 #2
Good one! . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #3
It's 412 pages, lots of redactions but some name I've not seen before. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #4
The others escaped green917 Jul 2018 #12
Also this paragraph from Times: Snellius Jul 2018 #5
Have finally come full circle. BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #6
The NYT is saying that democrats funded the Steele dossier. I thought it was the republicans. cheyanne Jul 2018 #7
Good spot- This false narrative keeps getting put out there- we have to expose the truth. NBachers Jul 2018 #10
Thought from the start Page's goofy speech and DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #8
He strikes me as the sort Harker Jul 2018 #13
From the NYT...................... turbinetree Jul 2018 #9
Thankfully we are past the point bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #11
Kick voteearlyvoteoften Jul 2018 #14

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,939 posts)
4. It's 412 pages, lots of redactions but some name I've not seen before.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 06:34 PM
Jul 2018

Podobnyy, Evgeny Buryakov, Igor Sporyshev were charged in 2015, agents of SVR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Service_%28Russia%29

Buryakov is serving 30 months in prison.

green917

(442 posts)
12. The others escaped
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 08:39 PM
Jul 2018

Podobnyy and Sporyshev escaped back to Russia before they could be apprehended. Sporyshev is reputed to have said that Carter page was "too stupid" to make a good asset.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
5. Also this paragraph from Times:
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 06:38 PM
Jul 2018
Visible portions showed that the F.B.I. in stark terms had told the intelligence court that Mr. Page “has established relationships with Russian government officials, including Russian intelligence officers”; that the bureau believed “the Russian government’s efforts are being coordinated with Page and perhaps other individuals associated with” Mr. Trump’s campaign; and that Mr. Page “has been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government.”

BumRushDaShow

(128,377 posts)
6. Have finally come full circle.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 06:45 PM
Jul 2018

WaPo first alerted to this back in April 2017. In February of this year, the NYT submitted a motion to unseal to the FISA Court, and they and other outlets submitted FOI requests to DOJ, mainly because of the ridiculous memo that traitor Nunes had drafted completely skewing and botching the true narrative and backstory of the whats and whys.

cheyanne

(733 posts)
7. The NYT is saying that democrats funded the Steele dossier. I thought it was the republicans.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 07:15 PM
Jul 2018

"The fight over the surveillance of Mr. Page centered on the fact that the F.B.I., in making the case to judges that he might be a Russian agent, had used some claims drawn from a notorious Democratic-funded dossier compiled by Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence agent. "

The democrats didn't fund the dossier until long after FBI started to surveille Page.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
8. Thought from the start Page's goofy speech and
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 07:16 PM
Jul 2018

appearance was just an act. After all, who'd think a comically inept person like that could possibly conspire with anyone? I thought of how Vincent "the chin" Gigante would wander around in his bathrobe and slippers trying to convince law enforcement he was just a crazy old man instead of the capo of one of NYC's top mob families.

Harker

(13,957 posts)
13. He strikes me as the sort
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:40 PM
Jul 2018

who would be thrilled to hold a stranger's hand and walk into a dark alley for a smile and a promise of an ice cream cone.

If he's feigning goofiness, he's pretty good at it.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
9. From the NYT......................
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 07:24 PM
Jul 2018

"Visible portions showed that the F.B.I. in stark terms had told the intelligence court that Mr. Page “has established relationships with Russian government officials, including Russian intelligence officers”; that the bureau believed “the Russian government’s efforts are being coordinated with Page and perhaps other individuals associated with” Mr. Trump’s campaign; and that Mr. Page “has been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government.”



This is treason.......................go back on Chris Hayes there traitor and explain yourself now................


Maybe he should be sitting in the same jail with that other spy (woman) currently in Jail..................


https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?msg=2018%20Midterm%20Elections&p0=263&year=2018&month=11&day=6&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&fromtheme=election

bucolic_frolic

(43,027 posts)
11. Thankfully we are past the point
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 07:41 PM
Jul 2018

where doubts about the origins or viability of this warrant and the material it uncovered could be considered bogus. It's all just some lunatic ranting about Witch Hunts at this point.

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