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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 12:49 PM Jul 2018

Trump to propose blocking California's clean car standards

Source: The Hill

The Trump administration is planning a proposal to block California regulators from enforcing their own emissions standards for vehicles sold in the state.

Bloomberg News reported Monday that the proposal will be part of a regulation the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) will jointly propose in the coming days to freeze or reduce federal greenhouse gas emissions and fuel efficiency rules for cars.

The proposal would set up a battle with California over whether the Clean Air Act allows its decades-long aggressive crackdown on car emissions. The fight is almost certain to go to court if the administration pursues it. The rules have become part of California’s environmental identity, as well as part of its efforts to clean the air in Los Angeles and other heavily polluted areas.

The Obama administration permitted California to set its own greenhouse gas emissions for cars in 2009, giving it a waiver under the Clean Air Act. Numerous other states now follow California’s standards.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/398372-trump-admin-to-propose-blocking-californias-clean-car-standards

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Trump to propose blocking California's clean car standards (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jul 2018 OP
It's getting so one can just imagine a list of all the despicable things pecosbob Jul 2018 #1
This person tRump is a total creep and asshole. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2018 #2
California will fight back and twitler will pay for this kimbutgar Jul 2018 #3
States Rights underpants Jul 2018 #4
THIS BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #10
So what happens with republicans on state rights issues? beachbum bob Jul 2018 #5
that's only to enslave black people JI7 Jul 2018 #7
Or at the behest of corporations The Mouth Jul 2018 #13
It's not just cleaner air, it's better health for the citizens. notdarkyet Jul 2018 #6
And better mileage...how can even the most RW voter want worse mileage& to pay more for gas? stuffmatters Jul 2018 #23
The vandal continues down the path of destruction dalton99a Jul 2018 #8
He has gotta to be laying in his traitors bed looking up at the ceiling................ turbinetree Jul 2018 #9
"The Obama administration permitted California to set its own greenhouse gas emissions for cars..." Liberalagogo Jul 2018 #11
If Obmam had only hated gays, pitbulls and undocumented immigrants The Mouth Jul 2018 #29
Watch. Jerry Brown will rip Trump's asshole out. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2018 #12
Every time Maxheader Jul 2018 #14
Trump, and the Republican Party too, just need to go. Lonestarblue Jul 2018 #15
I thought the Republicans were all about states rights and state gov vs federal gov titaniumsalute Jul 2018 #16
If there's one thing this asshole and his Congress.. Dave Starsky Jul 2018 #20
Yeah they preach one thing until they don't get their way titaniumsalute Jul 2018 #30
Well, the state should be able to enforce non-compliant cars to only be registered off-road or farm. TheBlackAdder Jul 2018 #17
So much for GOP States' Rights crowd bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #18
Silly Rabbit...."states rights" are for racists! Moostache Jul 2018 #28
They can keep that in court until he's out of office. bitterross Jul 2018 #19
I read that CA emissions have now been reduced BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #21
And Cali will ignore him and do what they want because FUCK YOU flibbitygiblets Jul 2018 #22
Exactly. They'll probably not go to war, just ignore it 'til it goes away. Snellius Jul 2018 #32
So the California Republicans are dead set on repealing a small gas tax put in place to fix Trust Buster Jul 2018 #24
Republican death cult in action truthisfreedom Jul 2018 #25
We love our cleaner air and much better fuel efficiency msdogi Jul 2018 #26
This all seems eerily similar to Atlas Shrugged... Vilis Veritas Jul 2018 #27
Don't fuck with CA. They're not really part of the US. Snellius Jul 2018 #31

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
1. It's getting so one can just imagine a list of all the despicable things
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 12:53 PM
Jul 2018

a person in might do while in office and then just wait a day or two and it will happen.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
3. California will fight back and twitler will pay for this
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jul 2018

We like our cleaner air and fuel efficient cars.

Governor Brown will not stand for this and if Newsom wins he will fight back also. The repuke running thinks he has a chance, he is a carpet bagger idiot who will get the dumb parts of California to vote for him. But no enough for him to win.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
10. THIS
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jul 2018
Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/tenth_amendment

The Mouth

(3,149 posts)
13. Or at the behest of corporations
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jul 2018

They don't mind fucking poor whites, either, kind of a bonus to them.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
23. And better mileage...how can even the most RW voter want worse mileage& to pay more for gas?
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jul 2018

Coincidentally, in // up is down Koch universe, The Koch Bros are spending millions on a Nov Proposition to overturn a measly gas tax State of Ca instituted to pay for transportation repair/improvement.
So the RW is outraged & wildly against drivers paying a tiny bit for better roads but, at the same time, all aboard drivers paying as much as double for unimproved mileage standards for fuel that also is more poisonous to the air they breathe?

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
9. He has gotta to be laying in his traitors bed looking up at the ceiling................
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jul 2018

from the Lincoln bedroom and just thinking of how to hate everything in this country, through those demented black eyes, orange double chin skin, tiny hands on the phone , setting his malignant narcissistic megalomaniac "fuming brain" into action..................and then at 5:00 AM he tweets is treason out to the world................while the turtle and the "ayn rand" lay in their beds thinking dreaming and waking up , yepper, we have finally destroyed the Constitution..............let's get up and party and start another day ...................because they will not do anything to defend and protect the Constitution.....................................


November 2018 cannot get here fast enough.....................vote

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
11. "The Obama administration permitted California to set its own greenhouse gas emissions for cars..."
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jul 2018

There's your (no pun intended) smoking gun.

It always comes back to Obama with the Shithole.

The Mouth

(3,149 posts)
29. If Obmam had only hated gays, pitbulls and undocumented immigrants
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 07:09 PM
Jul 2018

we'd be in the middle of pure love for them all...

"Reactionary" was so overused by the left a few decades ago as to have almost no meaning, but in Tru
mp's case it's true

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
14. Every time
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jul 2018

prima donald gets whacked hard..tariffs..put put and it in helsinki..etc..
it goes and tries to hurt or eliminate a liberal agenda..

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
15. Trump, and the Republican Party too, just need to go.
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jul 2018

I am beyond exhausted, exasperated, and exercised by this president and his no good, rotten, immoral, dishonest administration. Mueller, please hurry!

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
20. If there's one thing this asshole and his Congress..
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 03:24 PM
Jul 2018

Have made absolutely obvious to everyone is what a bunch of goddamn hypocrites they are and have always been.

They have no quarter to talk about "rule of law", fiscal responsibility, immigration policy, family values, "states rights", or any other topic that they have feigned taking the high road on for decades. Every fucking Republican needs to be laughed off the podium whenever they mention any of these things.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
30. Yeah they preach one thing until they don't get their way
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 03:44 PM
Jul 2018

So then they blow up what they preach and do whatever anyway. Hypocrites.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
28. Silly Rabbit...."states rights" are for racists!
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 05:48 PM
Jul 2018

The GOP cares about "state's rights" in reality about as much as I care about their opinion on morality...absolutely not a whit!

Truth about the GOP is that everything they "support" revolves around getting more money for them and less for everyone else. In pursuit of that goal, they have found racism to be irresistible when it comes to firing up their knuckle-dragging voters. So when they figured out racism sells and would do so for a very long time, the dye was cast...

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
19. They can keep that in court until he's out of office.
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jul 2018

I'm sure they can tie this up long enough to outlast the deplorables.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
21. I read that CA emissions have now been reduced
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jul 2018

to 1990 levels of CO2 due to the restrictions and regulations CA imposed on the residents of the state, this is 4 years earlier than expected. Gov Brown has been working hard to help the environment and tRump will have a fight on his hands, even with a new gov.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
32. Exactly. They'll probably not go to war, just ignore it 'til it goes away.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:38 PM
Jul 2018

Most of the population of California are refugees from the rest of the US.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
24. So the California Republicans are dead set on repealing a small gas tax put in place to fix
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 05:12 PM
Jul 2018

Infrastructure but they are fine with California drivers paying more to oil companies ? Senseless.

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
25. Republican death cult in action
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 05:18 PM
Jul 2018

They’re for anything that drags us into the past, especially if it endangers us.

msdogi

(430 posts)
26. We love our cleaner air and much better fuel efficiency
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 05:23 PM
Jul 2018

always so grateful to be a native Californian. And yes, Governor Brown will give a big middle finger to this plan.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
31. Don't fuck with CA. They're not really part of the US.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:25 PM
Jul 2018

I grew up in CA long time back, 4th generation at that. Especially back then, California is a land unto itself with nothing around it for two thousand miles. Forests to the north, Pacific to the west, Mexico to the south, and a desert to the east where the rest of America is supposed to be. If California doesn't like what goes on in DC, they just ignore it. So what to do? Send an army of federal vehicle inspectors to Sacramento to retrofit all the cars?

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