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riversedge

(70,187 posts)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:43 PM Jul 2018

Bad news for Trump: Rising GOP chance of losing House

Source: axios.com



Alexi McCammond 7 hours ago

Democrats now have their best shot at winning the House, according to Larry Sabato's Crystal Ball that just shifted 17 races in their favor.

Why it matters: It's the first time this cycle that the analysts at the University of Virginia Center for Politics are giving Democrats better than a 50% chance of winning the House. "[T]he Democrats now look like soft favorites to win a House majority with a little more than 100 days to go."

Data: University of Virginia Center for Politics; Chart: Chris Canipe/Axios

Sabato, along with his Crystal Ball team at the University of Virginia Center for Politics, has been among the most conservative analysts, repeatedly telling us that House control was a coin flip, despite widespread projections of a Democratic takeover.

"This president is not popular, and no one believes there is any chance the GOP comes out of this election with more seats than they hold now," the Crystal Ball's Kyle Kondik writes.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/2018-midterms-democrats-house-respresentatives-trump-76cb45e9-e4f5-424e-b251-62cdb373475e.html



well, count me skeptical. He predicted Hillary would win also.


Alexi McCammond
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Democrats now have their best shot at winning the House — Sabato’s Crystal Ball just moved 17 races in their favor.


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Bad news for Trump: Rising GOP chance of losing House (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2018 OP
Well, she did win the popular vote, so.... louis-t Jul 2018 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #2
No The Hitman Jul 2018 #3
My apology - got the wrong impression back on the day after the election. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #4
Sabato is NOT pro Putin or GOP titaniumsalute Jul 2018 #7
PLEASE....nobody get cocky.... Liberalagogo Jul 2018 #5
We must be prepared and keep our eyes on the prize FakeNoose Jul 2018 #14
In other words.... Liberalagogo Jul 2018 #15
GOTV and throw their asses to the curb dalton99a Jul 2018 #6
+ 1 GOTV!!!! backtoblue Jul 2018 #8
I'll believe it when I see it. Firestorm49 Jul 2018 #9
Polls are a wonderful tool for social snapshots in a wide variety of disciplines. LanternWaste Jul 2018 #10
+1 CreekDog Jul 2018 #28
Here's a reason for optimism. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2018 #17
Not believing it either durablend Jul 2018 #18
DITTO! BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #23
Helsinki was the face-to-face 2naSalit Jul 2018 #27
The various indicators lead me to be more hopeful about Nov than I've been in a long time. LanternWaste Jul 2018 #11
Now if only they can zentrum Jul 2018 #12
Hillary would have won had it not been for the Comey intervention. StevieM Jul 2018 #13
He is the main reason and BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #24
AND the NYT, AP, Russia, voter suppression interventions, Hortensis Jul 2018 #29
passing the blame mehrrh Jul 2018 #16
"He predicted Hillary would win also." Hayduke Bomgarte Jul 2018 #19
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #20
Bad news for Trump is good news for America. nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #21
Wasserman/Cook Political Report just shifted DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #22
Blue Wave SkatmanRoth Jul 2018 #25
TAKE. NOTHING. FOR. GRANTED... Raster Jul 2018 #26
Predictive markets have Democrats with 1.5-1 odds right now metalbot Jul 2018 #30

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
1. Well, she did win the popular vote, so....
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:49 PM
Jul 2018

And it's hard to predict how much cheating went on. Pootie did have his boney fingers on the buttons.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
7. Sabato is NOT pro Putin or GOP
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 03:57 PM
Jul 2018

He is an exceptional data analyst and researcher. Please don't spread BS. He calls the data as he sees it even if we don't agree with it.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
14. We must be prepared and keep our eyes on the prize
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:38 PM
Jul 2018


Even small victories count. The GOP figured this out long ago.

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
9. I'll believe it when I see it.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jul 2018

Polls are shit.

If a poll is in your favor, you jump for joy. When its not, you boo boo all day. We all learned from the last presidential election the accuracy of polls. Of course, there was outside influence. Do you really think that that outside influence has tucked its tail between it’s legs and hobbled away? Hardly.

Fact; Republicans want to hold onto to absolute power beyond all else. So do Democrats, by the way. It’s just the historic devious manner by which Republicans win that so typically stereotypes their party. (Example; hanging chads) As has been shown, they will even resort to colluding with communists if necessary just to retain control and finally get the chance to turn their dream (and Ayn Rand’s) America into a fascist state. And, they’re doing pretty good so far.

Right now we have a party still obsessing about Hillary as much as the Republicans, lacking strong decisive leadership, and despite its failings, it has managed to turn numerous local and state seats from red to blue. Nice work. It sounds like strength by accident; the resentment of David Dennison, or John Baron, or John Smith, or whatever the hell his name is today.

So, yippee ! A poll shows that Dems might take control. I myself will be thrilled to see the actual outcome, but I’m no longer basing any sort of optimism on polls.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. Polls are a wonderful tool for social snapshots in a wide variety of disciplines.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:26 PM
Jul 2018

You appear to use them as nothing more than a way to insult everyone who thinks differently than you. However, if you do you want to discount valid science, realize it's a reflection of your you... not of anyone else.

durablend

(7,460 posts)
18. Not believing it either
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 05:11 PM
Jul 2018

Republicans are going to CHEAT their asses off. This you can count on. No way they're going to risk going to jail.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
27. Helsinki was the face-to-face
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 06:42 PM
Jul 2018

where pootie TELLS dipshit that he's manipulating the next election to get rid of all those pesky disloyals.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. The various indicators lead me to be more hopeful about Nov than I've been in a long time.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jul 2018

Not that the data, one way or the other, would force our complacency... anymore than a strong day on Wall Street would compel anyone to quit their job.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
12. Now if only they can
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:30 PM
Jul 2018

...delay the Kavanaugh confirmation until Nov. I know the Senate confirms but a losing GOP might help the weak ones stand up to Trump. A sqoash more.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
24. He is the main reason and
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 05:43 PM
Jul 2018

I will never, ever forgive him. He is the reason we are in this fucking nightmare. Fuck Comey 100%!!!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. AND the NYT, AP, Russia, voter suppression interventions,
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:38 AM
Jul 2018

etc. This is a lot bigger than just Comey.

I really can't believe Comey just woke up one morning and decided to betray his country and see if he could get away with it. He and McCabe both put their careers on the line and both were both fired for cause after certain of their actions immediately triggered ethics investigations.

Nor do I believe the NYT's agreement with an unnamed authority to bury coverage of the FBI's investigation into Trump-Russia was just more of its biased coverage against Democrats in 2016. Interestingly, the MSM, including all networks, has virtually never connected its coverages of the #1 and #2 at the FBI. Both were fired for actions expected to influence the election in one direction only, but seemingly any connection is just coincidence not worth mentioning. As for investigating the possibility of this being part of a larger conspiracy involving some in their own organizations, ridiculous.

Rant over. Until next time.

Sure, this pollster was wrong in 2016. ALL the major polling services were dead wrong, an enormous shock to them as nothing even approaching this had happened before...

mehrrh

(233 posts)
16. passing the blame
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 05:01 PM
Jul 2018

Pre-empting a Democratic win in November, Trump is already claiming that Russia hates him because he is "tough" on Russia, so the Russians will help Democrats win in November.
Ignoring that only Republicans encourage foreign meddling in our elections, ignoring that the Russians were absolutely a large factor in Trump's victory, Trump is presenting the argument to be used by his sycophants and Trumpeteers to use when they lose congress -- it's because the Russians helped Democrats win.
It's a two-fer for him -- he accuses Democrats, and his base believes the election results are illegitimate.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
22. Wasserman/Cook Political Report just shifted
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 05:28 PM
Jul 2018

PA-17 from toss up to lean D based on the latest Monmouth polling.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
26. TAKE. NOTHING. FOR. GRANTED...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 06:26 PM
Jul 2018

...WE need to turn out and vote like we are 10 points down and we are throwing a "Hail Mary."

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
30. Predictive markets have Democrats with 1.5-1 odds right now
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 07:37 AM
Jul 2018

Though that has been consistent for a while.

https://www.predictit.org/Market/2704/Which-party-will-control-the-House-after-2018-midterms

For those not familiar with predictive markets, they are essentially futures contracts that allow you to bet on future events. What the current spread represents is that you would pay $66 to buy a contract worth $100 if the Democrats win, and $38 to buy a contract worth $100 if the Republicans win.

I realize that the predictive markets aren't large enough to give a true sample, but they are potentially a better barometer of who people _think_ will win, which is different from a poll in which you simply ask people.

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