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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:40 AM Jul 2018

EXCLUSIVE Henry Kissinger Pushed Trump to Work With Russia to Box In China

Source: The Daily Beast



The former secretary of state pushed one president to use China to isolate the Soviet Union. These days, he’s counseling almost the reverse—and officials are listening.

ASAWIN SUEBSAENG
ANDREW DESIDERIO
SAM STEIN
BETHANY ALLEN-EBRAHIMIAN

07.25.18 9:21 PM ET

Henry Kissinger suggested to President Donald Trump that the United States should work with Russia to contain a rising China.

The former secretary of state—who famously engineered the tactic of establishing diplomatic relations with China in order to isolate the Soviet Union—pitched almost the inverse of that idea to Trump during a series of private meetings during the presidential transition, five people familiar with the matter told The Daily Beast. The potential strategy would use closer relations with Russia, along with other countries in the region, to box in China’s growing power and influence.

Kissinger also pitched the idea to Jared Kushner, the top White House adviser whose portfolio includes foreign-policy matters, one of the sources briefed on the discussions said.

Inside the administration, the proposal has found receptive ears, with some of Trump’s top advisers—in addition to officials in the State Department, Pentagon, and the National Security Council—also floating a strategy of using closer relations with Moscow to contain Beijing, according to White House and Capitol Hill insiders. But the idea has been complicated by the president’s deference to Russian President Vladimir Putin, which has caused countless domestic political headaches.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/henry-kissinger-pushed-trump-to-work-with-russia-to-box-in-china?ref=home

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EXCLUSIVE Henry Kissinger Pushed Trump to Work With Russia to Box In China (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2018 OP
"closer ties" heaven05 Jul 2018 #1
Kissinger UpInArms Jul 2018 #2
Too bad former presidents didn't pull Henry's security clearance. Then, he would have NCjack Jul 2018 #3
Makes sense. China is Russia's other big geopolitical rival: DetlefK Jul 2018 #4
Kissenger: The one dinosaur that should have his security clearance revoked. n/t Baitball Blogger Jul 2018 #5
I will never forget a creepy Kissinger story that I read in a book. Trust Buster Jul 2018 #6
No one knows how many lives Harker Jul 2018 #7
Never shake hands with a war criminal. deminks Jul 2018 #8
A war criminal advising a traitor. This is what we have come to. Va Lefty Jul 2018 #9
But does Kissinger realize BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #10
Geez, why is this guy still alive? poli-junkie Jul 2018 #11

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
2. Kissinger
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:52 AM
Jul 2018

One evil MF ....

Hater of America ... lover of crooks and criminals ...

The world will be well rid of him ...

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
3. Too bad former presidents didn't pull Henry's security clearance. Then, he would have
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:55 AM
Jul 2018

no current info to monetize their generosity, including ex-President Obama.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. Makes sense. China is Russia's other big geopolitical rival:
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:55 AM
Jul 2018

Both are vying for control over the ex-soviet states in Inner Eurasia.

Russia wants them to join an economic union, inevitably ruled by Russia even though everybody would be equal on paper.
(Putin wants to create something similar to the Eurozone in the long term, but these countries don't want to place themselves at the mercy of an international currency that would effectively be controlled by the Kremlin.)

At the same, China wants to establish a new Silk-Road, a state-of-the-art highway that would run from China to the Middle-East. This would create a new axis of trade, effectively dominated by chinese goods and chinese economic pressure.

Baitball Blogger

(46,682 posts)
5. Kissenger: The one dinosaur that should have his security clearance revoked. n/t
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:59 AM
Jul 2018

No wonder the Millennials don't trust the system. A page from history decided to screw us over again.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
6. I will never forget a creepy Kissinger story that I read in a book.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:23 AM
Jul 2018

Before his time in the Nixon Administration, Kissinger held a position at Harvard. He was so arrogant and temper ridden that most of his colleagues steered clear of him. Anyhow, at home he would not have contact with his wife for weeks. She was told to put his food tray outside his home office door. He would sleep on a couch in his home office. He would not shower for weeks and would not recognize his own wife for weeks at a time. That dude has always been nuts.

Harker

(13,976 posts)
7. No one knows how many lives
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:24 AM
Jul 2018

were ended or have been shattered by that hideous thing during his 95 years. It figures that Trumpsky would listen to him. Narcissists elevate their feelings of self worth by the presumed status of the people with whom they associate, and Kissinger similarly has never been shy about telling the world how brilliant he is.

deminks

(11,014 posts)
8. Never shake hands with a war criminal.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:29 AM
Jul 2018

Henry is an evil, evil man. No wonder he took a liking to Trump. But I don't buy this 'let's blame Henry' tactic. Trumpco may have been looking for a 'legitimate' excuse to cover their Russian tracks. IMHO, the Russian thing started long before Henry.

Since we know that Henry was advising Trumpco, let's look at his role in family separation at the border for 'deterence'. We know how Henry feels about South America. It sounds like something he would recommend.

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