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appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:57 PM Jul 2018

Amazon's Facial Recognition Wrongly Identifies 28 Lawmakers, A.C.L.U. Says

Source: New York Times

Representative John Lewis of Georgia and Representative Bobby L. Rush of Illinois are both Democrats, members of the Congressional Black Caucus and civil rights leaders.

But facial recognition technology made by Amazon, which is being used by some police departments and other organizations, incorrectly matched the lawmakers with people who had been arrested for a crime, the American Civil Liberties Union reported on Thursday morning.

The errors emerged as part of a larger test in which the civil liberties group used Amazon's facial software to compare the photos of all federal lawmakers against a database of 25,000 publicly available mug shots.

In the test, the Amazon technology incorrectly matched 28 members of Congress with people who had been arrested, amounting to a 5 percent error rate among legislators. The test disproportionally misidentified African-American and Latino members of Congress as the people in mug shots.

"This test confirms that facial recognition is flawed, biased and dangerous," said Jacob Snow, a technology and civil liberties lawyer with the A.C.L.U. of Northern California...more..

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/amazon%e2%80%99s-facial-recognition-wrongly-identifies-28-lawmakers-aclu-says/ar-BBL4WWr



Proponents see it as a useful tool that can help identify criminals. It was recently used to identify the man arrested for the deadly shooting at The Capital Gazette's newsroom in Annapolis, Md. But civil liberties groups view it as a surveillance system that can inhibit people's ability to participate in political protests or go about their lives anonymously. Over the last two months, Amazon has come under increasing pressure for selling its facial technology, called Rekognition, to law enforcement agencies.

*ACLU Report, July 26, 2018, "Amazon's Face Recognition Falsely Matched 28 Members of Congress With Mugshots"
https://www.aclu.org/blog/privacy-technology/surveillance-technologies/amazons-face-recognition-falsely-matched-28



Our test used AmazonRekognition to compare images of members of Congress with a database of mugshots. The results included 28 incorrect matches.
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Amazon's Facial Recognition Wrongly Identifies 28 Lawmakers, A.C.L.U. Says (Original Post) appalachiablue Jul 2018 OP
The test disproportionally misidentified African-American and Latino members of Congress... ADX Jul 2018 #1
Look at the photo chart just posted above of the 28 misID'ed legislators. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #2
We do... LakeSuperiorView Jul 2018 #3
Thanks, LSV; I appreciate that... ADX Jul 2018 #5
There is one :eyes: Yonnie3 Jul 2018 #4
Thanks, Yonnie; much appreciated! ADX Jul 2018 #6
That's a function of not enough training data Loki Liesmith Jul 2018 #27
The ACLU's fights are noble. This one, especially. ancianita Jul 2018 #7
This is the self-driving car applied to civil liberties bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #8
Exactly what I thought when I read this... appalachiablue Jul 2018 #12
Do they have software to identify which members of Congress SHOULD be arrested? nt CaptainTruth Jul 2018 #9
Lol, good luck & won't happen.. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #11
I do The Mouth Jul 2018 #14
These days party affilliation serves that purpose. Mr.Bill Jul 2018 #16
Haha, Womack is one of them! sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #10
Boy, that's not good. Amazon has some work to do. iluvtennis Jul 2018 #13
In Amazon's defense they did say: EX500rider Jul 2018 #15
Did it match Mr. Lewis or Mr. Rush Harker Jul 2018 #17
See #20 appalachiablue Jul 2018 #21
Although to be fair BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #18
And in 2004 Harker Jul 2018 #19
I know Joe Madison was arrested at that Embassy too BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #23
Lol. To be clear, the Amazon facial recognition tech matched appalachiablue Jul 2018 #20
I got that Harker Jul 2018 #22
I know BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #24
It's all good :) I know that you know....!! appalachiablue Jul 2018 #25
😁 BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #32
Sorry! Harker Jul 2018 #26
Welcome to DU by the way! BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #31
Thanks! Harker Jul 2018 #33
Is this the same software that counts votes and drives cars? bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #28
Who can hack in republican faces as "wanted and dangerous?" NBachers Jul 2018 #29
This, Siri, Alexa, Echo..... paleotn Jul 2018 #30
So?? Homer Wells Jul 2018 #34
 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
1. The test disproportionally misidentified African-American and Latino members of Congress...
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:03 PM
Jul 2018

...as the people in mug shots."

What a shock.

We really need a "rolling eyes" smiley on this board.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
2. Look at the photo chart just posted above of the 28 misID'ed legislators.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:08 PM
Jul 2018

That's some dodgy 'recognition' tech..

EX500rider

(10,835 posts)
15. In Amazon's defense they did say:
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:52 PM
Jul 2018

"Amazon took issue with the findings, saying the system needed to be set at 95% accuracy not the 80% used by ACLU."

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44965154

Harker

(14,012 posts)
17. Did it match Mr. Lewis or Mr. Rush
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:00 PM
Jul 2018

to any of their own mugshots? Mr. Lewis racked up a lot of arrests in his fight for civil rights.

BumRushDaShow

(128,783 posts)
18. Although to be fair
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:03 PM
Jul 2018

there probably is a mug shot of the 26-year old Bobby Rush in 1972 when he was arrested and served time as a Panther.





Harker

(14,012 posts)
19. And in 2004
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:21 PM
Jul 2018

in protesting at the Sudanese embassy.

Science usually lags way behind science fiction, but developers and users get dazzled by the possibilities. Ask anyone who has survived a bad encounter with a self driving car.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
20. Lol. To be clear, the Amazon facial recognition tech matched
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:22 PM
Jul 2018

28 Congress members with photos of OTHER PEOPLE arrested for a crime.

ACLU article posted with the news OP above:

"Amazon’s face surveillance technology is the target of growing opposition nationwide, and today, there are 28 more causes for concern. In a test the ACLU recently conducted of the facial recognition tool, called “Rekognition,” the software incorrectly matched 28 members of Congress, identifying them as *other people* who have been arrested for a crime...https://www.aclu.org/blog/privacy-technology/surveillance-technologies/amazons-face-recognition-falsely-matched-28

Harker

(14,012 posts)
22. I got that
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:35 PM
Jul 2018

but it seems to me that if it also failed to recognize actual arrestees as who they are (or were), that ramps up the failure level to 11.

I'd hate to have my lunch money riding on that, let alone my life or liberty.

Harker

(14,012 posts)
33. Thanks!
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:53 PM
Jul 2018

I'm a little awkward, as I'm new at this, but I've been what you call a lurker since the early days of DU.

You folks have caused me to think as deeply as I've thought, and to laugh loudly and often. I'm sorry it took a complete lunatic in the WH to bring me into the conversation.

I'm grateful for your welcome.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
28. Is this the same software that counts votes and drives cars?
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 07:04 PM
Jul 2018

We've breeched the limits of IT accuracy. Time for a pause on the mountain.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
30. This, Siri, Alexa, Echo.....
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 07:52 PM
Jul 2018

are precisely why I am not afraid of Skynet. Nor am I worried about the "singularity." Certainly not in my lifetime or the lifetimes of anyone I know.

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