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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 04:12 AM Jul 2018

Rudy Giuliani: Michael Cohen Has Been Warned To Keep His Mouth Shut

Source: Huffington Post

07/28/2018 11:02 pm ET Updated 45 minutes ago

Cohen is in ‘grave danger of being disbarred’ for violating attorney client privilege, says Trump’s lawyer.
By Mary Papenfuss

Donald Trump’s legal team has warned his former fixer Michael Cohen to stop speaking out and violating lawyer client confidentiality, the president’s attorney Rudy Giuliani told ABC News Saturday. The warning comes just six days days after the team waived lawyer client privilege concerning a recorded conversation between Cohen and his former boss about a former Playboy model.

“We have complained” to Cohen’s lawyers that “he’s violated the attorney-client privilege, publicly and privately,” Giuliani told the network. Giuliani said Cohen is in “grave danger of being disbarred.”

But Cohen’s attorney Lanny Davis told Huffpost in a statement that Giuliani “seems to be confused.”

He “expressly waived attorney client privilege last week and repeatedly and inaccurately — as proven by the tape — talked and talked about the recording, forfeiting all confidentiality,” Davis added.

Read more: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/giuliani-says-cohen-has-been-warned-to-keep-quiet_us_5b5cff5ae4b0b15aba997304

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Rudy Giuliani: Michael Cohen Has Been Warned To Keep His Mouth Shut (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2018 OP
Cohen's attorney is correct Lithos Jul 2018 #1
In tape Trump and Cohen are conspiring to commit fraud against McDougal Snellius Jul 2018 #4
I'd like to think you are correct. bitterross Jul 2018 #28
If not fraud, they were also conspiring to launder money Snellius Jul 2018 #39
Yep Lithos Jul 2018 #32
The desperation of the Rudy thbobby Jul 2018 #2
Giuliani is the ugliest clown I have ever seen. SamKnause Jul 2018 #3
I have to differ with you. lark Jul 2018 #17
I have to differ with you. SamKnause Jul 2018 #29
This! MFM008 Jul 2018 #33
The Joker is brilliant. Trump is far from that Kaleva Jul 2018 #36
Sounds to me like duforsure Jul 2018 #5
this mopinko Jul 2018 #21
exactly Takket Jul 2018 #34
Or what, Rudy? Scarsdale Jul 2018 #6
I think ouija Jul 2018 #7
Yeah. For one thing, who would want to hire Cohen as a lawyer? Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2018 #40
Saying that Giuliani seems to be confused is the understatement of the year Siwsan Jul 2018 #8
Rudy belongs in the dementia wing of a nursing home. Dave Starsky Jul 2018 #15
Guiliani comes across as not being a very good lawyer n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2018 #41
He was pretty highly thought of, back when he was a prosecutor Siwsan Jul 2018 #44
When he was US Attorney for the Southern District of New York Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2018 #46
Is Donald Trump worth spending decades in prison? gordianot Jul 2018 #9
I'm sure he's in grave danger (deadly) truthisfreedom Jul 2018 #10
Somehow I doubt Harker Jul 2018 #11
Rudy is there for distraction purposes only EricMaundry Jul 2018 #12
"he's violated the attorney-client privilege," Maxheader Jul 2018 #13
Witness tampering is against the law, Rudy. There is no privilege if the attorney and client ... marble falls Jul 2018 #14
We'll see soon duforsure Jul 2018 #22
Wouldn't that be rich! marble falls Jul 2018 #23
+1 7wo7rees Jul 2018 #24
Rudy Giuliani/ RWNJ . stonecutter357 Jul 2018 #16
Given that Cohen doesn't actually practice law most of the time... Princess Turandot Jul 2018 #18
Cohen was never an attorney. He's only been an "attorney." PSPS Jul 2018 #19
Has trump got a lot of duforsure Jul 2018 #20
so witness tampering. librechik Jul 2018 #25
Thug life blueseas Jul 2018 #26
Rudy again El Viejo Jul 2018 #27
Correct me if I am wrong but if an attorney is engaged in committing or helping a client plan cstanleytech Jul 2018 #30
Mr Cohen may not be that great of attorney but he seems like a pretty good card player nolabels Jul 2018 #31
Sending a message? defacto7 Jul 2018 #35
At this point, Cohen's greater concern is staying out of prison himself anyway yurbud Jul 2018 #37
There are worse things than being disbarred, such as spending years in prison. Nitram Jul 2018 #38
Ghouliani is wormtongue. flying_wahini Jul 2018 #42
I would be very surprised if disbarrment was the worst thing Cohen had to worry about. n/t D23MIURG23 Jul 2018 #43
I don't think disbarment is at the top of his list of concerns Bradical79 Jul 2018 #45

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
1. Cohen's attorney is correct
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 04:17 AM
Jul 2018

Plus Trump dismisses Cohen's status early on. Plus I think at some level, Attorney Client privilege does not work if the Client is in the act or encouraging the commission of a crime.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
4. In tape Trump and Cohen are conspiring to commit fraud against McDougal
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 04:41 AM
Jul 2018

The whole scheme was to deceive McDougal that her story would be published by the National Enquirer. In which case it is not protected by attorney-client privilege.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
28. I'd like to think you are correct.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jul 2018

But I doubt lying to someone about when/how/whether a story will be published rises to the level of a fraud.

I suspect any contract was all about her not going to anyone else in exchange for the payment. That there is nothing in the contract about a promise to publish.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
39. If not fraud, they were also conspiring to launder money
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 05:34 PM
Jul 2018

by creating false corporations to pay a dummy third-party in cash so the transaction could not be traced back to Trump as an illegal campaign donation. There's so much larceny going on in those tapes you can almost pick any crime. Just as Trump knows no distinction between fact and truth, he sees no difference between legal and criminal. Like the mafia.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
2. The desperation of the Rudy
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 04:22 AM
Jul 2018

The stench of fear in the trump klan. The stench of laughter and joy for the rest of America.

SamKnause

(13,103 posts)
3. Giuliani is the ugliest clown I have ever seen.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 04:24 AM
Jul 2018

I have never liked clowns, but he takes my dislike to a whole new level.

He is not funny, but he certainly is a joke.

lark

(23,099 posts)
17. I have to differ with you.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 09:05 AM
Jul 2018

Giuliani is truly bad, but Drumpf is the ugliest clown I've ever seen. He's a total joke with the one patch of orange white hair swirled over his whole head, died orange snarling face, tiny assmouth, tiny fingers and huge belly and ass. No one is as ugly as he is, especially when you consider the inside and the outside. He's even uglier inside than he is outside, and that's totally bad.

SamKnause

(13,103 posts)
29. I have to differ with you.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 01:15 PM
Jul 2018

Trump is not a clown.

He is more in line with the Joker.

The Joker, played by Heath Ledger.

He is purposefully cruel and evil.

His clothes are ill fitting.

His hair is a strange color.

His skin is a strange color.

He immensely enjoys hurting people.

Heath Ledger could have based his character, the Joker, from observing and imitating Trump.

Giuliani is more of a clown or court jester.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
36. The Joker is brilliant. Trump is far from that
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 03:58 PM
Jul 2018

Trump is much more like Capt. Murphy of Sealab 2021 then Heath Ledger's Joker

Takket

(21,565 posts)
34. exactly
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 03:49 PM
Jul 2018

Guiliani doesn't get to decide what is privileged. the courts do, and the process of doing so with Cohen's files has been PAINSTAKING to make sure they don't give drumpf's team even a sliver of hope that they can escape this mess by crying privilege.

His acting like he gets to dictate to Cohen and his lawyers what privilege is, and what consequences might be suffered if they don't listen to him, is clear tampering. He should be disbarred and prosecuted himself for these threats.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
6. Or what, Rudy?
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 05:35 AM
Jul 2018

Cement shoes? Poor desperate Rudy. Just like his "boss" a wanna-be wise guy. Now they are emulating the Russian mob.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
40. Yeah. For one thing, who would want to hire Cohen as a lawyer?
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 05:39 PM
Jul 2018

Right now, he's most interested in keeping out of the slammer.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
8. Saying that Giuliani seems to be confused is the understatement of the year
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 06:56 AM
Jul 2018

Giuliani is a textbook example of a blithering idiot.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
15. Rudy belongs in the dementia wing of a nursing home.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 08:07 AM
Jul 2018

With one of those electronic wristbands to prevent him from wandering off and exposing his genitals to guests.

That the news media can pretend that he's even the least little bit competent is a fucking joke.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
44. He was pretty highly thought of, back when he was a prosecutor
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 05:56 PM
Jul 2018

Then he tossed aside his ethics and started letting his ego run his life. Now he is nothing more than a disgrace.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
46. When he was US Attorney for the Southern District of New York
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 07:29 AM
Jul 2018

He didn't really build the cases, he oversaw the lawyers who did the actual work.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
9. Is Donald Trump worth spending decades in prison?
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 07:08 AM
Jul 2018

Your family goes broke and you do not get a Presidential pardon for State crimes.What Rudy is missing in this rant Cohen is a lowlife thug who knows his own guilt. When it came down to it Trump is not worth taking a bullet. I do hope this sour old man (Rudy) gets his own Cohen moment very soon.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
13. "he's violated the attorney-client privilege,"
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 07:53 AM
Jul 2018

Oh but rudy! Its a matter of national security! Americu can't be
having a lying low life running around causing problems!!

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
14. Witness tampering is against the law, Rudy. There is no privilege if the attorney and client ...
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 08:06 AM
Jul 2018

conspired. Rudy should know that - John Gotti lost Mike Cutler as an attorney over that.

Attorney's have an obligation as officers of the court to report ongoing crimes.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
22. We'll see soon
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:13 AM
Jul 2018

How long before HE flips on trump knowing they've got them all. Rudy will for sure be flipping . He's just another phony liar who claims loyalty when he knows that's a lie too.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
18. Given that Cohen doesn't actually practice law most of the time...
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 09:23 AM
Jul 2018

...as shown by the review of the many documents seized from his office by the FBI, he's probably not worried about the state bar at the moment.

Not to mention, who in their right mind would want this putz to do legal work for them at this point.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
20. Has trump got a lot of
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 09:45 AM
Jul 2018

Dirt on ghouliani now ? That's why he's working for him and putin now? Trump and putin have a long history of dong that to others for them to illegally influence others (especially politicians) with. This is their pattern of doing this to people , like putins doing to trump now, and has him exactly where he wants him as an asset.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
30. Correct me if I am wrong but if an attorney is engaged in committing or helping a client plan
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jul 2018

a criminal that privilege flies out the window?
Not to mention didnt Trump deny Cohen was his attorney a few months back?

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
31. Mr Cohen may not be that great of attorney but he seems like a pretty good card player
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 01:19 PM
Jul 2018

He probably never signed up for a gig in the national spotlight and stuck in between the rock and hard place where he's at not many could blame him.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
35. Sending a message?
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 03:56 PM
Jul 2018

"grave danger"? I don’t think being disbarred is deadly. I also don't think Cohen thinks he has a chance of not being disbarred.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
45. I don't think disbarment is at the top of his list of concerns
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 08:50 PM
Jul 2018

As far as his legal career is concerned, I think he's probably screwed regardless.

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