Lawmakers try to stop the spread of 3D guns
Source: Agence France-Presse
By AFP
Published : Jul 29, 2018 - 17:11 Updated : Jul 29, 2018 - 17:26
WASHINGTON -- Dozens of US legislators are demanding that the Trump administration explain a recent agreement to allow the free distribution of plans for using 3D printers to make plastic handguns that will be easy to hide and almost impossible to control.
After a lengthy legal battle, the government reached agreement last month with Cody Wilson, a militant gun rights advocate from Texas. He successfully argued that the US Constitutions Second Amendment, which guarantees the right to private gun ownership, should extend to a persons right to make guns at home -- uncontrolled by authorities, since they will bear no serial number.
Dozens of Democrats in both the US House of Representatives and the Senate have decried the settlement and are demanding an explanation from the President Donald Trumps administration, which has been extremely supportive of gun owners rights.
The agreement between the State Department, which controls the exportation of American arms, and Wilsons Defense Distributed group was reached on June 29.
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ancianita
(35,950 posts)Files from the Defense Distributed website already have been downloaded a million times.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/19/us/3d-printed-gun-settlement-trnd/index.html
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http://freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/wikiweapons_and_printing_3d_guns_its_just_stalking_horse_whats_come/
The files are out there forever. Now the fight is over who will control 3D printer patents and markets.
docgee
(870 posts)Unless the government thinks it can start controlling and censoring information.
amcgrath
(397 posts)The NRA is a lobby group for the people who make guns. Downloadable guns will hurt their sales. I'm sure those 'dozens of law makers' have all taken some pretty furious calls from their donors
pazzyanne
(6,544 posts)An unlimited supply of throw away guns that can't be traced. The wild west was never like this.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)Ever see the film Line Of Fire? The plastic gun John Malkovich brings into the presidential banquet is now made easy.
NickB79
(19,224 posts)The only restriction being you can't make them for sale, only personal use.
Mr. Wilson's argument was not based primarily on 2nd Amendment cases from what I've read, but 1st Amendment ones, because he was arguing for the right to disseminate CAD files online, not actual firearms.
Bayard
(22,011 posts)How about something useful, like houses for the poor?
forgotmylogin
(7,521 posts)If the plastic latch doo-dad that makes your vacuum work breaks, you just create a new one with a printer and the template the company provides instead of them needing to keep them stocked in a warehouse and send them out to you. Need a part for an obsolete machine that you still use? Theoretically, a cad-design of it could allow you to recreate the part with a 3D printer.
I believe they want to custom print replacement bones, like hip joints. I've even read about how theoretically they may eventually be able to bio-print small replacement organs - like a kidney - using stem cells...and...organ goo? (It's theoretical!)
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)for affordable and low income housing but I haven't seen any lately.
Gunz!!
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Banning the distribution of the plan files (Prior Restraint) was not a winnable case for the government.
EX500rider
(10,810 posts)(or "The Anarchist Cookbook" )....which had directions on making homemade bombs among other things....but was protected by the 1st Amendment.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)I say not fully legal because there are separate laws against making undetectable (by metal detector) guns, which was why the plaintiff in this case had to add metal to the handle. The firing pin nail was probably too small for most detectors.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)legalizing Zip Guns,,,,, but worst!
Takket
(21,529 posts)you would think the ban is a slam dunk.
Dems don't want more weapons
and rethugs live to defend the NRA, which defends gun manufacturers, who don't want people making guns for free.
But now their precious 2A and the 1A are butting up against the NRA's sales... so what will become of this?
hack89
(39,171 posts)It will be a very long time before decent guns can be printed in significant numbers so they are not concerned about that. But the market for accessories will explode. Gun makers will capitalize on the owners desires to customize their weapons to sell plans over the internet. And because they are not guns they will not be regulate.
Kablooie
(18,612 posts)moondust
(19,963 posts)Guns for kids!
Guns for zombies!
Guns for everybody who can press the PRINT button!
Guns! Guns! Guns! Guns! Guns! Guns! Guns!
(RPGs, mortars, and tactical nukes coming soon!)
xor
(1,204 posts)3D printers and cheap CNC machines are legal and have been legal. The ability to download the plans that a 3D printer can use have been and will continue to be easily accessible to those who want them. Even if there was a way totally prevent people from getting these plans from others, that doesn't prevent them from drawing up their own models. It's easy enough to find information on how firearms work. A bit of research and tinkering will eventually get someone a bullet firing device (a gun) that is mostly created with a 3D printer and/or a desktop CNC machine.
So, I don't see how this changes much of anything. If gangs, terrorists, and others doers of evil saw making 3D printed or CNC milled weapons was a viable strategy, then it would already be a major issue.
At most this might reduce the barrier of entry for some idiot to blow his fingers off. But hey, it's on them if they want to play stupid games. For anyone who is interested in gun control and/or just reducing gun violence in general, then this seems a huge distraction from the real issues.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,476 posts)I'm quite sure the other existing 300 million plus guns in the US are well controlled. Attempts to abridge First Amendment rights are noted.
0rganism
(23,931 posts)should be able to regulate the sale of these firearms, and their manufacture on a sufficiently large scale, but some dipshit printing a dozen in his basement and giving them to all his friends as birthday presents -- probably not so easy