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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:29 AM Jul 2018

Sessions announces 'religious liberty task force'

Source: The Hill

Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced Monday that the Department of Justice is creating a "religious liberty task force."

Sessions said the task force, co-chaired by Associate Attorney General Jesse Panuccio and the assistant attorney general for the Justice Department's Office of Legal Policy, Beth Williams, will help the department fully implement the religious liberty guidance it issued last year.

The guidance was a byproduct of President Trump’s executive order directing agencies to respect and protect religious liberty and political speech. Sessions said on Monday that the task force will “ensure all Justice Department components are upholding that guidance in the cases they bring and defend, the arguments they make in court, the policies and regulations they adopt, and how we conduct our operations.”

The announcement came during the department’s religious liberty summit.

Sessions said the cultural climate in this country — and in the West more generally — has become less hospitable to people of faith in recent years, and as a result many Americans have felt their freedom to practice their faith has been under attack.

Read more: http://thehill.com/regulation/administration/399482-sessions-announces-religious-liberty-task-force

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Sessions announces 'religious liberty task force' (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jul 2018 OP
sounds like the religious police they have in iran and saudi arabia.nt. drray23 Jul 2018 #1
Beat me to it Biden My Time Jul 2018 #22
He needs troops to uphold elmac Jul 2018 #28
Your correct very scary TEB Jul 2018 #37
My thoughts exactly. nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #42
First thing that came to my mind as well htuttle Jul 2018 #52
Ditto all the above. More projection. Funny how much they keep telling us just who they are. Doitnow Jul 2018 #61
Rule by republican mullahs workinclasszero Jul 2018 #71
I call this BS katmondoo Jul 2018 #2
"Religious liberty" - does this mean that Muslims can worship without retribution? George II Jul 2018 #3
This lillypaddle Jul 2018 #51
Of course! That MUST be what it means. Chemisse Jul 2018 #75
The Inquisition 2.0 CanonRay Jul 2018 #4
Maybe the republican Perjurer General is lying about this, too? Achilleaze Jul 2018 #9
Pandering to his base. If not that, then it is much worse. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #5
Suppose they'll call themselves "Angels"? Girard442 Jul 2018 #6
I thought it was "Eyes." geardaddy Jul 2018 #58
Simple explanation of relgious freedom Va Lefty Jul 2018 #7
++++++++++++++ progree Jul 2018 #17
So much Lindsay Jul 2018 #36
That is perfect. thank you. LittleGirl Jul 2018 #48
So it means right wing Christians can be even further jackasses? Initech Jul 2018 #8
Republican Jesus Hate Force. sarcasmo Jul 2018 #81
Show much for separation of church and state Liberalagogo Jul 2018 #10
So people can't have negative views towards Christian sects.. Kablooie Jul 2018 #11
How much is that shit going to cost me? Squinch Jul 2018 #12
I have a proposal for religious liberty: DetlefK Jul 2018 #13
And people's religion.... SergeStorms Jul 2018 #74
and my religious freedom not to listen to these morons? bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #14
Absurd! "freedom to practice their faith has been under attack" my ass. KPN Jul 2018 #15
Like it or not The Liberal Lion Jul 2018 #16
Liberal Lion? Funny...Dr. Putin says: - scalpel, stat, the patient has signed the death 💀 form!? Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #18
+1 bronxiteforever Jul 2018 #23
I don't understand The Liberal Lion Jul 2018 #31
You don't agree, Fred? sandensea Jul 2018 #49
Agree! orangecrush Jul 2018 #47
Wrong. LanternWaste Aug 2018 #83
Well good luck The Liberal Lion Aug 2018 #86
First order of business, we need a government preferred and NCjack Jul 2018 #19
instigated by pence? nt heaven05 Jul 2018 #20
And by his own state. sandensea Jul 2018 #24
yeah, exactly nt heaven05 Jul 2018 #68
Here is Jeff Sessions' full speech on "religious liberty" and his new Religious Liberty Task Force. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2018 #21
"Less hospital" you say... Grins Jul 2018 #25
.has become less hospitable to people of faith in recent years... azureblue Jul 2018 #32
++++++++ Thanks! ancianita Aug 2018 #85
Just another recruiting effort for the KKK nt elmac Jul 2018 #26
Ah, the Baptist Police shenmue Jul 2018 #27
Someone send Sessions a copy of the First Amendment. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2018 #29
Dod you hear that loud bang? azureblue Jul 2018 #30
"Americans have felt their freedom to practice their faith has been under attack." lunasun Jul 2018 #33
You forgot the sarcasm smilie. haele Jul 2018 #65
right. barbtries Jul 2018 #34
To me it sounds like this will strengthen the "religious belief" defense to refuse to serve gays, dameatball Jul 2018 #35
Yes. Harker Jul 2018 #41
Because Christians are so persecuted choie Jul 2018 #38
What about the right of Christians to discriminate against hateful Christian bigots? Snellius Jul 2018 #39
Gee, when i drive through every small city and most towns in OH I see churches all over the place, Botany Jul 2018 #40
Hey, don't be cruel to dad cats. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #50
Sorry .... I'm not the quickest cowboy on God's dude ranch. Botany Jul 2018 #55
We only need one thing religion-related from our government: truthisfreedom Jul 2018 #43
Finally, all religions -- and atheists, too! -- will be respected and protected! Beartracks Jul 2018 #44
Christofacist task force is the real title. muntrv Jul 2018 #45
Just FUCK Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #46
Correction: What is really meant is freedom to practice their stupidity democratisphere Jul 2018 #53
Poll after Poll. ( If you believe polls) Firestorm49 Jul 2018 #54
Their definition of ''religious freedom'' means to be able to discriminate against LGBTQ people. YOHABLO Jul 2018 #56
I can see it now... SummerSnow Jul 2018 #57
The threat is worse than that. NastyRiffraff Jul 2018 #59
As for the last example you gave... Jedi Guy Jul 2018 #77
No, church facilites are maintained "for and by an organization" - not for general public use. haele Aug 2018 #84
So no Muslim ban, eh? C_U_L8R Jul 2018 #60
Oh my matt819 Jul 2018 #62
"You can have the model T in any color, so long as it's black" Oneironaut Jul 2018 #63
Further down in the article inanna Jul 2018 #64
I responded with truth and love underthematrix Jul 2018 #66
Religion is what keeps the poor from eating the rich - Napolean n/t maxrandb Jul 2018 #67
Sounds better than an anti-gay, anti-science, anti- workinclasszero Jul 2018 #69
Cuz we all need more Gawd in our lives. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2018 #70
How about the freedom to pay taxes on their faith? n/t MarcA Jul 2018 #72
LGBT is just the top of the list. no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #73
Don't forget women. Women will be the last to get out from under religion. ancianita Aug 2018 #82
and this tweet elmac Jul 2018 #76
Wheres sam brownback? Maxheader Jul 2018 #78
So long as you believe and say what they want you to? Wtf uppityperson Jul 2018 #79
Fuck this! EarthFirst Jul 2018 #80

Kablooie

(18,609 posts)
11. So people can't have negative views towards Christian sects..
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:41 AM
Jul 2018

But are free to tear at Muslims all they want.

That's religious freedom.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
13. I have a proposal for religious liberty:
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:44 AM
Jul 2018

Nobody should be forced to obey the religious rules of somebody else's religion.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
74. And people's religion....
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 04:56 PM
Jul 2018

should stay the hell out of politics. If they can't manage to do that, then thou loseth thy tax exemption.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
14. and my religious freedom not to listen to these morons?
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:51 AM
Jul 2018

because, you know, I believe religion is a personal choice so I live and let live.

Can I still eject Moonies and JW's from my front porch? Will they respect my no trespassing signs?

KPN

(15,635 posts)
15. Absurd! "freedom to practice their faith has been under attack" my ass.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:54 AM
Jul 2018

More like freedom to impose their beliefs on everyone else -- but we all already know that. Geezuz H. Cripes!

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
16. Like it or not
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:03 PM
Jul 2018

America is in a dark age and it's dragging the rest of the world down with it. It's no longer a matter of saving the union, it's already destroyed, just many are failing to acknowledge it. What is at stake is cutting the loses and removing this tumor of a nation before it has a chance to do anymore harm.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
83. Wrong.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 03:18 PM
Aug 2018

Notice how I supported my conclusion with precisely the same amount of objective evidence as did you... that being a big ol' zero.

But yea, hold onto your hysterical and dystopian fantasies. My grandad did the same thing-- he's been predicting we'll never make it another year too since Ike left office. He tells me it keeps him warm.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
19. First order of business, we need a government preferred and
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jul 2018

sponsored religion and church. The Church of England held that role when were a collection of English colonies. I really like their efficiency in operating within the revenues from the universal church tax. (It gave the Church priests great pleasure getting that revenue from non-members, especially suspected non-believers.) And, that income was supplemented by their priests' sales of protection from lightning strikes -- a church business that Benjamin Franklin wrecked with his invention of the lightning rod. In America today, there are so many opportunities for us to be sheared financially and socially.

sandensea

(21,600 posts)
24. And by his own state.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:27 PM
Jul 2018

These Southern-fried Republicans have been wanting to impose a theocratic state for decades.

Except, of course, when it comes to their own personal lives - which more often than not involves a very busy closet and other "sins."

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,290 posts)
21. Here is Jeff Sessions' full speech on "religious liberty" and his new Religious Liberty Task Force.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:19 PM
Jul 2018
RogueAltGov Retweeted:

Reminder that ~70% of Americans and over 80% of Congress self-identify as Christian, but health insurance has to cover birth control and suddenly Christianity is under attack



Here is Jeff Sessions’ full speech on "religious liberty" and his new Religious Liberty Task Force.

Prepared remarks 1/2


Grins

(7,195 posts)
25. "Less hospital" you say...
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:32 PM
Jul 2018
"...has become less hospitable to people of faith in recent years..."

Yeah; because no one has been picked on in this country more than white, Reich-wing, "Christians. Maybe they are "picked" on because those same "people of faith" are:

OK with turning away the poor and desperate based on country or religion?
OK with separating children from their parents?
OK with cutting healthcare?
OK with enriching the rich at the expense of the poor?
OK with destroying education after founding a bogus "university"?
OK with cheating veterans out of the donations he promised them.
OK with treating women as chattel? (OK, I'll give you that one since that one IS in the Bible.)
OK with the lying which, in less than two years, more then 3,000 have been counted?
OK with bragging to the Boy Scouts about drinking and sex?
OK with calling for cuts in Social Security?
OK with calling for cuts in Medicare?

Screw those "people of faith" They worship anger, revenge, power. This is just Sessions reinforcing the Evangelical base's siege mentality that has led to self-induced dementia. They're literally going out of their minds, sliding from "Values" to Trump; and from Trump to Roy Moore. They started with wanting to save babies, and ended with supporting pedophiles and a rapist.

Any organization which overlooks a politician’s moral shortcomings because of policy - is a political organization - not a religious one. And therefore, should lose their tax-exempt status.

azureblue

(2,145 posts)
32. .has become less hospitable to people of faith in recent years...
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:41 PM
Jul 2018

Sessions means his faith, not Islam or any other faith that is not Protestant Christian.. Actually, what he means is baptist is the one true faith... Remember, his faith believes that Catholics are not Christians because they worship idols.. And Presbyterians are not baptized because they do not fully immerse. Jews are Christ killers. IOW - a bunch of religious bigots.

29. Someone send Sessions a copy of the First Amendment.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jul 2018

Of course, when he's talking about religious persecution, he's talking about Christian persecution. Other religions -- Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, etc. -- can go burn in Hell, as far as he's concerned.

Meanwhile, 18 months into the Trump administration there has been no Science Advisor appointed. I think that tells you who Donnie Two Scoops knows can deliver the most votes.

azureblue

(2,145 posts)
30. Dod you hear that loud bang?
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:40 PM
Jul 2018

that was the sound of this crap backfiring on Sessions. I can see the Satanists, Scientologists, polygamists, and about every cult in America using this to justify their whatevers. Some bunch of pedos can form a church and claim that their molestation is part of their religion..

These idiots never stop to think why division of church and state is written into the constitution.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
33. "Americans have felt their freedom to practice their faith has been under attack."
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:47 PM
Jul 2018

Most likely he is talking about attacks on synagogues and mosques

He also most probably wants to let atheists know they will not be attacked and that there is true freedom from any religion as well in this country .

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
34. right.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:48 PM
Jul 2018

this strikes me as not much more than a vehicle to put friends in government and siphon more money from us hapless taxpayers. the phrase "taxation without representation" been running through my mind a lot lately.
alternatively, make trump's evangelical base happy - but there is not enough of them to him in office as long as sane people VOTE.

dameatball

(7,394 posts)
35. To me it sounds like this will strengthen the "religious belief" defense to refuse to serve gays,
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:49 PM
Jul 2018

refuse abortion counseling, etc., by limiting the public's ability to file suit. It's all there in the quote.

Harker

(13,976 posts)
41. Yes.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jul 2018

They've been beleaguered long enough by practitioners of all those other pesky religions, and by all those who don't share their beliefs.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
39. What about the right of Christians to discriminate against hateful Christian bigots?
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 01:02 PM
Jul 2018

"Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."

Botany

(70,447 posts)
40. Gee, when i drive through every small city and most towns in OH I see churches all over the place,
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 01:02 PM
Jul 2018

their "christian nonsense" spills out of my radio and TV, and you can't throw a dad cat w/out
hitting some kind of Christian elementary, high school, or college either. So why do they
this task force? Quick get sessions the !st amendment ASAP.


Beartracks

(12,797 posts)
44. Finally, all religions -- and atheists, too! -- will be respected and protected!
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 01:16 PM
Jul 2018

I am positively, absolutely 100% sure that this is what Mr. Sessions has in mind. Because certainly he can't be contemplating protecting religious prejudice against the constitutional rights of others...


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Firestorm49

(4,029 posts)
54. Poll after Poll. ( If you believe polls)
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jul 2018

Fewer and fewer people are attending organized religions, with perhaps the deep South being an exception. I’ve read for the past several years how attendance is diminishing, but Jeff will hold on to and inflict his beliefs, as with his party, on anyone he can.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
57. I can see it now...
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jul 2018

Christain lanlord won't rent to a Muslim family

Christian employer won't hire gay applicants

Church refuses to hold wedding ceremony for gay couple

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
59. The threat is worse than that.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 02:10 PM
Jul 2018

Much worse. We're heading towards a theocracy, where Christianity will be REQUIRED. Oh, they'll phase it in; this "task force" is just the first phase. Then, it'll be the three elements you describe. Next, you'll be required to register your religion. Then, you'll be taxed if you're non-Christian.

The steps to theocracy may take slightly different forms, but the end result will be the same. Unless, of course, we stop it.

Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
77. As for the last example you gave...
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 05:56 PM
Jul 2018

Are churches required to rent their facilities to just anyone, or can they currently decline to allow LGBTQ weddings on their premises?

I'm pretty sure they can decline. When my wife and I were planning our wedding, we looked into a little Catholic chapel as the venue. They declined to let us use it because my wife had been divorced from her first husband. So from that I would infer that they'd turn down an LGBTQ wedding as well.

haele

(12,640 posts)
84. No, church facilites are maintained "for and by an organization" - not for general public use.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 03:29 PM
Aug 2018

Those facilities fall under the same guidelines for "renting" services that a building that belongs to the Shriners or any other private club/organization does - they are allowed to set limits - and hell, just discriminate - as the primary use of church facilities is for the church, not to conduct public business.

Haele

matt819

(10,749 posts)
62. Oh my
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jul 2018

First of all, this is outrageous.

Second of all, Muslims, Jews, Pastafarians, etc. should take full advantage of this task force.

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
63. "You can have the model T in any color, so long as it's black"
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 02:37 PM
Jul 2018

- A Conservative’s view of religious liberty

inanna

(3,547 posts)
64. Further down in the article
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 02:51 PM
Jul 2018
In short, we have not only the freedom to worship—but the right to exercise our faith. The Constitution’s protections don’t end at the parish parking lot nor can our freedoms be confined to our basements,” he said, according to his prepared remarks.


WTF?!

Am I reading this wrong? If I have a "Do Not Solicit" sign on my front door - does the above now invalidate that? Is anybody allowed to proselytise - ANYWHERE?
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
69. Sounds better than an anti-gay, anti-science, anti-
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 04:17 PM
Jul 2018

any religion that doesn’t worship the golden calf Trump, anti-choice, anti women, task force.

Which is what this will be.

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
73. LGBT is just the top of the list.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 04:55 PM
Jul 2018

No telling which priorities Sessions and his Christian Nazis will persecute.

Humanists
Atheists
Agnostics
Catholics
Mainline Protestants
Muslims
Buddhists
Sikhs
Hindus

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
79. So long as you believe and say what they want you to? Wtf
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 06:32 PM
Jul 2018

"and protect religious liberty and political speech."

EarthFirst

(2,897 posts)
80. Fuck this!
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 06:37 PM
Jul 2018

If that’s your thing; fantastic!

I don’t need a government agency regulating religion in my life.

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