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appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:42 PM Jul 2018

Uber To Stop Developing Self-Driving Trucks

Source: Reuters

Through its acquisition of Otto in 2016, Uber had sought to disrupt freight hauling with self-driving trucks and Uber Freight, its smartphone app that connects truck drivers and shippers.

Uber Freight, which has seen "rapid" growth, is unaffected by the decision, the company said.

Trucking has been viewed by transportation experts as a natural application for self-driving technology because of the relative predictability of highways compared with busy city streets.

Uber had unveiled plans earlier this year to integrate manual trucking with self-driving trucks by deploying the former for short hauls and the latter for longer distances...more...


Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/uber-to-stop-developing-self-driving-trucks/ar-BBLhDhn



San Francisco-based Uber faces competition from Silicon Valley companies including Tesla Inc and Alphabet Inc's Waymo as well as traditional automakers such as Ford and General Motors in the race to bring self-driving cars to the market.

- Fortune, 'Uber Puts the Brakes on Self-Driving Truck Program That Spurred Lawsuit,' July 30, 2018.
http://fortune.com/2018/07/30/uber-self-driving-truck-program-otto-lawsuit-closed/

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spooky3

(34,438 posts)
1. As someone who knows little about the technology, it seemed to me that
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:41 PM
Jul 2018

driverless long-haul trucks would make a lot more sense than driverless cars. The stories about the awful conditions for drivers and monotonous work made it obvious how useful it could be if the technology could be developed, whereas I can't imagine how it would be effective or cost-saving for businesses in cities to use driverless cars.

So there must be a lot more to the story.

xor

(1,204 posts)
4. From my understanding, that's how many companies plan on using it.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:03 PM
Jul 2018

Using it on the long-haul shipments and then handing it over to human drivers for the last mile (or whatever terminology they use) Another thing I hear a lot is that there would be a human driver in one of those long-haul trucks and then a convoy of automated trucks would follow behind it.

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
6. I think trains are a much better answer and we won't have the safety concerns...
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:33 PM
Jul 2018

It could also happen now. This article is a great read. Trains are more fuel efficient, and much of the system could be electrified using wind power as some of the areas with the most wind resources are on the paths of the railroads. The article also says it would cost less and be safer just to load trucks and drivers on the train and ship them together.
https://www.alternet.org/story/119359/let%27s_get_get_those_freight_trucks_off_the_road_and_put_america_back_on_tracks
I know I'm becoming a Luddite, but I suspect that part of the drive (oops for the pun) for driverless cars is that puts much of the development costs of autonomous weapons on the automakers. I could be wrong, but if I'm not, there are a few people who should be careful around anyone named Sarah Connor.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
9. Trailers already ship via Rail
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 07:22 AM
Jul 2018

Trains run through my small hometown every 15-20 minutes sometimes, most loaded with double stacked trailers on gondola cars going east and west. I seriously doubt there are that many semis going cross-country or extremely long distances these days.

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
14. I don't have hard data, but the few times I've driven cross country, the traffic was staggering. ...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:26 PM
Jul 2018

And rail is nowhere near capacity as they've thrown their lot in with the coal industry and where I am (KCMO) 90% of rail traffic is coal.

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
13. With 40,000 dead yearly on the roads in the US, there are probably that many killed by trucks...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:24 PM
Jul 2018

daily here.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
16. There are a lot of semis on the road, but I doubt most of
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 06:51 AM
Aug 2018

them are on cross-country jaunts. Their trailers are moving by freight train and hooked up to the cabs at the end of the journey.

xor

(1,204 posts)
3. I would rather Uber get out of anything related to self-driving.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:58 PM
Jul 2018

Not because I am against the idea of autonomous vehicles, but because Uber has proven itself to not be a responsible company. They just muck things up.

jeffreyi

(1,939 posts)
7. Remember choo-choo trains?
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:39 PM
Jul 2018

I am not informed in railroad history, or the whys and wherefors of whether railroad trains thrive or disappear, but they have disappeared from my location anyway. I've often wondered if the trucking industry was/is a huge make work/employment program, seeing as how rail transport is so much more efficient, and employs far fewer workers.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
11. Container/trailer shipment is a huge part of the railroad
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 07:35 AM
Jul 2018

freight business. In Pittsburgh, Norfolk Southern is trying to get the city and state to raise some bridges so double stacked container cars can pass through instead of having to route around.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
10. They already invented that. They're called trains.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 07:29 AM
Jul 2018

Individual vehicles waste energy, space, time, money, and nerves.

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