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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:18 PM Jul 2018

DOJ, Labor Dept to target employers that 'discriminate' against Americans by hiring foreign workers

Source: The Hill

The Departments of Justice (DOJ) and Labor announced an agreement Tuesday to work together in cracking down on companies that "discriminate" against U.S. workers by hiring foreign workers.

Acting Assistant Attorney General John Gore said in a statement that the agreement will help the civil rights division’s “ability to identify employers that favor temporary visa holders over U.S. workers who can do the job.” President Trump has promoted an “America First” agenda, criticizing companies that move plants out of the U.S. and stoking concerns about immigrants taking American jobs.

Critics have hit Trump over the statements, noting that his own private properties have filed multiple requests to hire foreign workers. The properties hire the workers through the H-2B visa program, which allows American employers to bring foreign workers to the country for temporary, nonagricultural work.

The Trump National Golf Club in Florida asked the Labor Department for permission to hire about a dozen foreign workers this month, BuzzFeed News reported.

Read more: http://thehill.com/regulation/labor/399690-doj-labor-dept-to-target-employers-that-discriminate-against-americans-by

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DOJ, Labor Dept to target employers that 'discriminate' against Americans by hiring foreign workers (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jul 2018 OP
Lol, starting with trump properties? beachbum bob Jul 2018 #1
Start with Trump International. muntrv Jul 2018 #2
Yup. Trump ratios sometimes as high as 100 to 1. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #5
Ya can't make this sh*t up JustAnotherGen Jul 2018 #3
You beat me to it. Of course, he'll skate...doesn't he in most things? Frustratedlady Jul 2018 #4
It's all smoke and mirrors atreides1 Jul 2018 #6
I'm sure they'll be all over Mar-a-Lago George II Jul 2018 #7
Sure....whatever you say. BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #8
Watch out! 7962 Jul 2018 #18
I posted the original article after I initially BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #19
Interesting... 2naSalit Jul 2018 #21
Oh that's rich! Find everything Trump abuses then fuck everyone else instead. Got it. nt chowder66 Jul 2018 #9
What a joke. Solly Mack Jul 2018 #10
Waiting for the blowback and inflation... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2018 #11
i'm not supporting trump, but keeping prices artificially low by hiring cheap foreign workers may no TheFrenchRazor Jul 2018 #14
Psst! Maralago! truthisfreedom Jul 2018 #12
might not be a bad idea, but of course it must be uniformly and rationally applied. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2018 #13
Does this includes t-rump and family and cronies' businesses? Iliyah Jul 2018 #15
Trump was in favor of expanding the Visa program, as I recall. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #16
how about companies that hire undocumented workers scarytomcat Jul 2018 #17
Nowhere do we see H1B... Spartacus101 Jul 2018 #20
Sounds like they are getting ready Turbineguy Jul 2018 #22
Same logic as LGBT people being a threat to conservative Christians just by existing. Crash2Parties Jul 2018 #23

JustAnotherGen

(31,769 posts)
3. Ya can't make this sh*t up
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:20 PM
Jul 2018

Seriously - 45/140 is a KNOWN offender and I will bet dollars to donuts the maggot skates on this.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
4. You beat me to it. Of course, he'll skate...doesn't he in most things?
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:24 PM
Jul 2018

It was just a couple months ago when they advertised for foreign workers at Mar a Lago, so it isn't as though they have short memories. What a disgusting bunch they are...consistently.

atreides1

(16,063 posts)
6. It's all smoke and mirrors
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:32 PM
Jul 2018

It only applies to seasonal workers, it won't have any affect on Simi Valley and the hiring of IT professionals from overseas!!!


Just another of Trump's "make the idiots believe I'm really doing something", agenda!!!

BigmanPigman

(51,554 posts)
8. Sure....whatever you say.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jul 2018

I read an article about a year ago in Time that said employers WANT to hire US citizens but they suck as employees compared to immigrants for several reasons. First, Americans can't pass the drug tests. Second, their work ethics suck and arrive late, leave early and produce less overall. Also, they suddenly quit right and left, leaving employers up the creek. Finally, they do not get many applications for posted positions in the first place.

Of course employers like to employ immigrants for cheap labor, no unions and no regulations too!

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
18. Watch out!
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 06:40 PM
Jul 2018

You might get accused of "spreading right wing talking points" when you start talking about lazy workers!
I had one blocked for mentioning how hard it was to get people willing to work

BigmanPigman

(51,554 posts)
19. I posted the original article after I initially
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 06:43 PM
Jul 2018

read it and I didn't get any nasty feedback, just others who supported the facts in the article. No fake news here.

2naSalit

(86,289 posts)
21. Interesting...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 06:48 PM
Jul 2018

I know that there are those who are just crappy workers but...

I used to live in a tiny tourist town that saw millions of tourists each year so there were all kinds of shops, restaurants and motels among other things. In the food service industry, at least 70% of the summer workers wer from the Eastern Bloc when I first moved there, the rest were Americans, most from elsewhere. (We referred to the imports as J1s, I think it's from the tax code for the employers).

They were a problem because they would come in and work for minimum wage, if you lived there you had to make at least $12/hr to break even as a single person. The J1s would take up to three jobs, as many of the locals did, but they knew they couldn't get fired so they would sort of do their jobs when the boss was around and the rest of the time slack off making twice as much work for the rest of the staff. They would get a job over a local who had a good rep as a good worker too, because they could pay them less AND get a tax break for hiring them. I saw this at nearly every place I worked in that town and I hated it when I had to have them in any shop I was managing.

Funny thing, many of us noticed was that by 2012, they were all from Russia, a few Bulgarians because one business owner was Bulgarian and he would hire cousins under the program, most were women who were usually dressed like they were looking for a husband who could help them get a US passport. Every year a few of them would stay, get married, have a baby in a year or two and then get divorced.

I am not against having International folks come to work in the US but I think there is a serious problem with the policies that facilitate it and I don't have a good answer for it but I bet whatever deliverance boy comes up with will be unacceptable for many reasons.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
11. Waiting for the blowback and inflation...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:45 PM
Jul 2018

Take a chicken processing plant, for example. If they hired all American workers (which they probably can't), then the plant would either close and move to Mexico or send meat prices out the roof.

And, meat coming from outside our borders likely will not have food safety controls like the U.S., so get ready for more food-related illness and death......

So much winning......

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
14. i'm not supporting trump, but keeping prices artificially low by hiring cheap foreign workers may no
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:55 PM
Jul 2018

not be the best thing in the long run. and sketchy meat coming in from abroad is a whole nother issue, which of course could and should be fixed.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. Trump was in favor of expanding the Visa program, as I recall.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 05:08 PM
Jul 2018

Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought he wanted to reign in all immigration, except work visas.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
17. how about companies that hire undocumented workers
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 05:22 PM
Jul 2018

I believe that is still illegal for employers to do
but dump has been doing the h-2b thing for years
he won't hire an american and all his products are made overseas (what is left of them)

 

Spartacus101

(93 posts)
20. Nowhere do we see H1B...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 06:46 PM
Jul 2018

...in this article.

As a new member, and at the risk of repeating myself, I hesitate, but feel I must use something from my first post, since it seems so germane here:

"The proliferation of H1B Visa abuse is rampant in the IT/Tech sector all over this country. There are so many insourcing companies it ain't even funny, and they've played havoc with the industry since the 1990's. A few years ago, down here, Disney tried to replace 500 IT workers with H1B workers, and then made them train their replacements as a condition of getting severance pay. That one backfired due to the media awaking from it's slumber, and Disney had to recant. The Mouse still has a black eye from the IT community for this. Don't blame the H1B Visa holders; they're just trying to escape from a life and environment most of us would last about 3 days in. But even when they get the job here (through hook or by crook with their outsourcing pirates who ALSO victimize the H1B job seekers-"Don't like how we treat you? go back to India/China, etc.), they wind up living five in an apartment and being paid 2/3 of what an American would need/get." There are entire apartment blocks in Tech Cities/Centers where they have to live like this.

Oh, and the old, "We can't find enough tech workers," howl Silicone Gulch puts up? I know a few former IT managers driving for Uber that could say otherwise.

It's truly a horrible open, running sore that very few in government want to touch, much less heal and stem, there's so much moolah pouring in from K Street in DC from the tech giants' lobbyists.
don't look for Marcus Crassus The Orange to fix that...

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