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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:59 PM Jul 2018

Reporter Reviewed WH Memo That Allegedly Implicates Trump In Obstruction

Source: Talking Points Memo



By Allegra Kirkland | July 31, 2018 4:28 pm

The question of whether President Trump obstructed justice in the FBI’s investigation of Michael Flynn has always hinged on his familiarity with the details of that probe — and when he learned them.

A new report out Tuesday in the New York Review of Books suggests Trump knew that there was an ongoing criminal investigation into Flynn and his interactions with Russian officials when he asked then-FBI director James Comey on Feb. 14, 2017 to let Flynn “go.”

Reporter Murray Waas said that he reviewed a White House memo that “explicitly states that when Trump pressured Comey he had just been told by two of his top aides — his then chief of staff Reince Priebus and his White House counsel Don McGahn — that Flynn was under criminal investigation.”

According to Waas, “people familiar with the matter” have told him that both Priebus and McGahn also testified to Special Counsel Robert Mueller that they personally provided this information to Trump during a Jan. 26, 2017 meeting.

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/report-trump-knew-flynn-under-fbi-investigation-obstruction



Flynn, Comey, and Mueller: What Trump Knew and When He Knew It

Murray Waas

Previously undisclosed evidence in the possession of Special Counsel Robert Mueller—including highly confidential White House records and testimony by some of President Trump’s own top aides—provides some of the strongest evidence to date implicating the president of the United States in an obstruction of justice. Several people who have reviewed a portion of this evidence say that, based on what they know, they believe it is now all but inevitable that the special counsel will complete a confidential report presenting evidence that President Trump violated the law. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the special counsel’s work, would then decide on turning over that report to Congress for the House of Representatives to consider whether to instigate impeachment proceedings.

The central incident in the case that the president obstructed justice was provided by former FBI Director James B. Comey, who testified that Trump pressed Comey, in a private Oval Office meeting on February 14, 2017, to shut down an FBI criminal investigation of Trump’s former national security adviser, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn. “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go,” Comey has testified the president told him.

In an effort to convince Mueller that President Trump did not obstruct justice, the president’s attorneys have argued that the president could not have broken the law because the president did not know that Flynn was under criminal investigation when he pressured Comey to go easy on Flynn. In a confidential January 29 letter to the special counsel first reported by The New York Times, two of the president’s attorneys, John Dowd (who no longer represents Trump) and Jay Sekulow, maintained that the president did not obstruct justice because, even though Flynn had been questioned by the FBI, Trump believed that the FBI investigation was over, and that Flynn had been told that he’d been cleared.

On its face, this is a counter-intuitive argument—for if Trump believed that Flynn had been cleared and was no longer under investigation, there would have been no reason for the president to lean on Comey to end the FBI’s investigation—telling Comey that Trump hoped that Comey would be able to “see your way clear to letting this go.” Yet Trump’s attorneys have pursued this line of argument with the special counsel because perjury and obstruction cases depend largely on whether a prosecutor can demonstrate the intent and motivation of the person they want to charge. It’s not enough to prove that the person under investigation attempted to impede an ongoing criminal investigation; the statute requires a prosecutor to prove that the person did so with the corrupt intent to protect either himself or someone else from prosecution.

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Reporter Reviewed WH Memo That Allegedly Implicates Trump In Obstruction (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2018 OP
The timing of the firing and how it happened always led me to believe, Trump knew of the iluvtennis Jul 2018 #1
Sally Yates told Don McGahn the FBI was investigating Flynn, on January 24, 2017. procon Jul 2018 #2
Obama told Trump in the Oval Office before his inauguration FakeNoose Jul 2018 #6
I believe there is more than that to it. creeksneakers2 Jul 2018 #3
I agree duforsure Aug 2018 #9
Interesting. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #10
This lack of consistency is what will bring Dump down. ffr Jul 2018 #4
Not often you find a news scoop from the NY Review of Books. Snellius Jul 2018 #5
Plausible deniability is not one of Trump's strong points. laserhaas Jul 2018 #7
Merkley said it.......................Treason turbinetree Jul 2018 #8

iluvtennis

(19,833 posts)
1. The timing of the firing and how it happened always led me to believe, Trump knew of the
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 05:19 PM
Jul 2018

investigation. Good to have reporter substantiate my theory.

procon

(15,805 posts)
2. Sally Yates told Don McGahn the FBI was investigating Flynn, on January 24, 2017.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 05:31 PM
Jul 2018

It makes sense that McGahn would inform Priebus as Trump's Chief of Staff that Flynn was under criminal investigation. So both of them notified Trump personally during a Jan. 26, 2017 meeting.

Then McGahn called Yates to return for a second in-person meeting on Jan. 27, 2017.

Trump fired Yates on January 30, 2017.


Of course Trump Knew!

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
6. Obama told Trump in the Oval Office before his inauguration
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 07:26 PM
Jul 2018

Obama told Trump that Flynn was bad news, don't hire him and certainly don't give him a job that requires security clearance. Being the complete asshole that he is, Trump did exactly that! Now here we are, 18 months later.



duforsure

(11,884 posts)
9. I agree
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 04:35 AM
Aug 2018

And if he approved everyone lying on their National Security forms assuring them it it was ok , then his fate is pretty clear he committed criminal acts to undermine our national security to cover up crimes against this country. He should be charged with many counts of treason against him, with others. He basically told Jr to lie about the meeting, and everything else too. Looks like more flippers coming soon against trump.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
4. This lack of consistency is what will bring Dump down.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 07:17 PM
Jul 2018

Reasoning that just doesn't add up and actions that are counter to reality.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
5. Not often you find a news scoop from the NY Review of Books.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 07:24 PM
Jul 2018

Josh Marshall at TPM really gets into the weeds of this stuff. Really interesting but easy to get lost. Speculating about speculations.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
7. Plausible deniability is not one of Trump's strong points.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jul 2018

Just sayin....

Trump - obstructs - religiously

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
8. Merkley said it.......................Treason
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:45 PM
Jul 2018

November 2018 cannot get here fast enough.......................vote

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