Trump: Environmental laws making California wildfires 'so much worse'

[demmiblue]

Source: The Hill

President Trump appeared on Sunday to place blame for massive wildfires in California on the state's environmental laws, including its water and forest management policies, saying that such regulations have made the blazes "so much worse."

"California wildfires are being magnified & made so much worse by the bad environmental laws which aren’t allowing massive amount of readily available water to be properly utilized," Trump tweeted. "It is being diverted into the Pacific Ocean. Must also tree clear to stop fire spreading!"

Link to tweet

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/400484-trump-california-environmental-laws-make-wildfires-so-much-worse

[TomCADem]

1. Next from Trump: "Laws Against Sexual Harassment and Discrimination Oppress Women"

We have already had some members of the Trump administration complaining about how the Civil War was due to an inability to compromise on the subject of slavery, so why not blame California laws designed to combat climate change on the affects of climate change, which Trump denies.

[Mr.Bill]

2. I live in Lake County where the largest complex of fires in the state are burning.

Smack in the middle of the county is the largest natural lake in California. It has a surface area of 44,000 acres. Water is not the problem here.

[mr_lebowski]

12. And presumably tankers and choppers are furiously extracting water from the Lake to fight said fires

Right?

That's kinda an important part ... of a proper retort to Dipshit's 'claim', IMHO

[Mr.Bill]

15. Yes, choppers are dipping water from the lake.

The tankers are dropping the red flame retardant. I think they are loaded at an airbase near Sacramento, which by air is not too far away.


The bottom line is the main thing that turns a fire into a major disaster are the winds. And there's nothing anyone can do about the wind.

[SFnomad]

28. Clearly that's the fault of those wind turbines ... damn green energy n/t

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

29. And those solar cell covered houses, which suck up all the daylight the firefighters need to see.

[marylandblue]

3. What's he saying here? They should have irrigated the forest?

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

30. He's saying to (1) harvest the forest, and (2) dam all the rivers (and kill endangered fish).

The forest fires also exist because Crooked Hillary ordered Corrupted Robert Mueller and his 17 Angry Democrats to start this Rigged Witch Hunt! NO COLLUSION! Sad!

[tblue37]

31. He has somehow got it into his head that water in California gets diverted by the state

into the Pacific Ocean!

And he thinks that deforestation is the solution to prevent wildfires.

Idiot.

[beachbum bob]

4. lol, what an idiot, no law helps mother nature and the dry/drought conditions and the havoc that

happens
no laws or regulations would make it worse

[Snellius]

14. Exactly. This is precisely why we need MORE regulation and proactive conservation. nt

[They_Live]

5. He just watched

Chinatown?

[Mr.Bill]

16. Not unless they made a two minute cartoon version of it.

[turbinetree]

6. Yep I read this insane tweet................and thought of the twilight zone song and

then I thought of the other 107 wildfires burning across the west.................what a fucking asshole...............people are dying and the costs of this shit is amazing, and all of that smoke goes east.........................and he decides while sitting on his gold laced toilet at Bedminster, that its California's fault, from his grand delusion from the throne, while trying anything and everything to take the "heat" off his criminal enterprise.............called TREASON.................


https://www.nifc.gov/fireInfo/nfn.htm


November 2018 cannot get here fast enough....................vote

[mr_lebowski]

13. Not to mention damn near the entire friggin' world is on fire ...

The damage (at least the damage to life and property) caused by damn near every 'natural disaster' could be mitigated by SOME conceivable set of actions by Human Beings FFS.

Hey Donnie, were you calling out Texas's lax zoning and similar other laws for the damage caused by Harvey, just as one example? Do you chide people for living in Tornado Alley?

No?

Then kindly shut the f*** up, how about that assh*le!?!

[turbinetree]

19. Yepper, spot on.................

He can't even understand that his fucking golf course there using water to water his course and it puts added pressure on the situation....................


November 2018 cannot get here fast enough.......................

[Wellstone ruled]

27. You can not fix the Stupid.

BTW,the Clear Cutting of Timber to prevent Forest Fires has been a Rethug talking point for Decades.

Tomorrow Donnie Too Stupid will have a new thing to beat up on. He is mentally gone off the cliff.

[turbinetree]

36. Until we send him to jail....................then society can fix stupid............

I guess they haven't connected the "other dot" that without trees we would be really screwed :

" A 100-ft tree, 18" diameter at its base, produces 6,000 pounds of oxygen." "On average, one tree produces nearly 260 pounds of oxygen each year. Two mature trees can provide enough oxygen for a family of four."


I guess the psychopath never even thought about that ....................while he was sitting on that throne in the toilet, not one iota........................

[Wellstone ruled]

42. Remember this,Reagan said the Forests of

California were causing the poor air quality of California.

Wow,that is natures way of venting the moisture back into the Atmosphere.

[turbinetree]

43. Yepper, spot on.................

Reagan.......................was another republican traitor................

[Wellstone ruled]

45. Again,you and I and everyone else can not fix the Stupid.

[turbinetree]

46. We have to vote..................so that stupids can't get in anymore

[Wellstone ruled]

47. In our house,we are one of the first in line

for early voting. Then we volunteer to help the poll workers the rest of the day. Someone has to be the Gopher for coffee and water.

[turbinetree]

48. Cool.......................

will be volunteering this year also.......................

[Leghorn21]

7. "Must also tree clear to stop fire spreading!" - got it!

CUT DOWN ALL THE TREES

[bucolic_frolic]

8. Trump's a developer, he will trash environmental laws every chance he gets

God please rescue us from this menace!

[forgotmylogin]

22. He complains like someone else is in charge of all this. (n/t)

[Snellius]

9. Not tree clearing. Brush clearing, you stupid "developer"

Trump only understands steel and cement.

This is about as dumb as Reagan's famous "If you've seen one redwood, you've seen them all".

Tree conservation and new planting is one of the best natural solutions to global warming.

Brush clearing, however, is essential. The Indians in California used to do controlled burns of grasses and brush to prevent major fires and fertilize the soil, while preserving the vital oaks from which they got much of their acorn-based food.

[JCMach1]

25. There has been pretty poor management of National Forests

For generations... But that is bureaucracy, not environmental laws.

[KPN]

50. Oh? That's a pretty broad statement. How so? Care to clarify?

[bluestarone]

10. RUMP doesn't have a clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BRAIN DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Initech]

11. Shut the fuck up, Donny.

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. His ideal world is concrete and asphalt. Fuck him.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

18. If they didn't have all those trees there would be no fire

Right Trumpy?

[Flaleftist]

20. It's so simple.

Link to tweet

?s=21

[Snellius]

24. Great parody account. Hard to make fun of a clown who is a parody of himself.

And who takes his buffoonery so seriously.

[DRoseDARs]

21. ... Rivers? Is he talking about rivers?

[djacq]

23. Orange Clown doesn't read science or anything else

The Carr Fire isn’t about access to direct water resources... Good luck finding a fire hydrant every 1000 yards in rural or forest areas.

This is about climate change, environmental conditions, a longtime damaged ecosystem, and the Fishing Industry versus the Farming Industry.

It seems that the Delta Smelt has longed been native to California. Due to Striped Bass introduction, water movement, and other man made causes, the species is on the the endangered species list. The Endangered Species Protection Act is upheld by the Supreme Court.

If the Delta Delta Smelt goes extinct... Further and unrepairable damage will occur to the current ecosystem.

But Orange Clown’s bade won’t get or comprehend that scientific information.

[Rollo]

26. Trump pisses me off so much about this I can't even post...

[oberliner]

32. I've been trying to figure out where he pulled this from

There had to be something on Fox or somewhere like that.

[lapfog_1]

34. The central valley wingnuts

have long complained about water "diversions" from sierra rivers into the Bay or Pacific ocean to support wetlands, San Francisco Bay, and other estuaries.

Nothing at all to do with fire fighting of course... it's not like there is some State Water person telling the Forest Service or other firefighters that they can use the water from any lakes or rivers for fire fighting.

Of course, the central valley farmers would like to see more dams and reservoirs... but only to feed their insane farming practices ( growing almonds and rice in what is essentially a desert ).

The limit on firefighting has more to do with the amount of aircraft that is available and... the traffic control for those airplanes and helicopters over the forest fires. Not to mention that the wind can carry embers for miles... so there really isn't a way to stop a dry fuel forest fire with a lot of underbrush and a steady wind and low humidity.

[jgmiller]

33. It's tweets like this that convinces me he's lost it

Most of his usual racist, inflamatory, seemingly deranged tweets are just to fire up his base and elicit the high he is looking for. That's not the mark of a crazy person, it's the opposite actually but then he does this and you realize he really has gone off the deep end. There is zero upside even with his crazy followers for this one, it's just the radom idiotic thought of a senile old man.....

[Le Gaucher]

35. Hey Trump .. stop blowing hot air outta your rump.

[Vinca]

37. I just read the funniest reply to this story at HuffPo. A guy said most of the world

needs "23 & Me" to track their heritage, but Trump and his supporters need a "22 & Me" service.

[yuiyoshida]

38. He is totally so much an

Asshole that most people don't care what he thinks. They just want him gone.So do I.

[Snellius]

39. Big tragedy is that California live oaks take at least 50 years to mature.

And at least 20 to produce acorns to reseed.

The California live oak, a native, perennial tree to this area, is an amazing tree, highly adapted to these harsh conditions. They were a staple food source for the native Californians. Unlike the common or controlled burns, which just clear the underbrush and spare large trees, these kind of intense wildfires will wipe them out for generations, perhaps forever. Replanting is little help for a long time and in the meantime very few trees can survive under conditions that global warming is only making worse.

[hatrack]

40. In case President Pantload can't read maps . . .

The Carr Fire is situated between Trinity Lake (2.4 million acre-feet capacity), Shasta Lake (4.5 million acre-feet capacity) and Whiskeytown Reservoir (240,000 acre-feet capacity).

And did the presence of all this "properly utilized" water make a single fucking bit of difference? Uh, NO.

Fucking moron.

[ROB-ROX]

41. LYING TURD

This comment is just an ATTEMPT to interfere in California policy of REDUCING environmental harm. This jerk knows NOTHING and he proves it AGAIN. I think people who cause fires are conservative NUTS who do not know any better.

[47of74]

44. 47of74: Herr Orange is making our problems so much worse.

Here, fuck face, I fixed your dumbass tweet for you;

All the problems the United States are facing now are being magnified & made so much worse by the bad policy decisions by that dumb fuck in the White House along with those of his groupies. Herr orange is trying to divert attention away from himself towards the Pacific Ocean. Must impeach the President to stop the fire of facism from spreading!

[KPN]

49. What a frigging moron this guy is. He has absolutely no clue about the dynamics of climate,

weather, and fuel as related to wildfire. And this is the stuff he provides his cabinet as direction. Jesus, Mary and Joseph! We need him gone NOW before we are all gone!

[Retrograde]

51. You could have stopped at

"He has absolutely no clue".

[KPN]

52. That's true.