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riversedge

(70,218 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:53 PM Aug 2018

More Americans approve of refusing same-sex couples service, per new poll

Source: think progress





But they're less likely to believe it's happening.

Aug 7, 2018, 1:21 pm



The latest poll from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) has found a marked uptick in support for allowing religion to justify discrimination against same-sex couples. The findings were collected shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Colorado baker who refused to sell a wedding cake to a same-sex couple.


Though the ruling didn’t actually grant the right to discriminate to business owners, it may have helped shift public perceptions about the issue. Americans are now pretty evenly split, with 46 percent believing that religious business owners should be allowed to refuse service and 48 percent objecting to such discrimination. That’s a significant shift toward favoring discrimination from just a year ago, when the split was 41-53. The survey specifically asked about owners of weddings-based businesses, like bakeries, florists, and caterers.

Over the last year, pro-discrimination views notably increased among Republicans (67 percent to 73 percent), Black Americans (36 percent to 45 percent), and Hispanic Americans (26 percent to 34 percent). White evangelical Protestants remain the religious group most likely to support anti-gay discrimination (70 percent), while the groups most strongly opposed to discrimination remain Catholics and religiously unaffiliated Americans, with 58 percent of both groups objecting to religious refusals.

Despite this shift, support for laws protecting LGBTQ people has remained consistently strong, with 71 percent believing laws should prohibit discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations. This suggests that people increasingly see religion as grounds for an exemption from following the law.......................................

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/religious-freedom-discrimination-same-sex-couples-prri-poll-d6f687d229f7/



Sadly, I am not surprised. So many just follow the bigoted Trump!!



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More Americans approve of refusing same-sex couples service, per new poll (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2018 OP
Yet another sensationalist click bait. Poll? PSPS Aug 2018 #1
The article links directly to the poll in the first two words fountainofyouth Aug 2018 #14
I didn't see that. Thanks. Read the methodology. It's a very poor polling method. PSPS Aug 2018 #17
All you need to do is look at WHO conducted the poll. Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2018 #18
This is both disgusting and depressing. Mickju Aug 2018 #2
fudgy numbers there but not clicking to see if the break out is clearer lunasun Aug 2018 #3
Until someone starts refusing opposite sex couples bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #4
The sanctity of Holy matrimony for conservative Christians - Kim Davis keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #5
That's actually Dick Cheney's picture. nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2018 #23
Dick Chaney in drag onetexan Aug 2018 #25
Not sure which one should feel insulted keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #26
Maybe both? Win-win! nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2018 #27
Lady's gotta whole lotta love ... marble falls Aug 2018 #24
Does that mean that atheists can also BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #6
Unsurprising. Behind the Aegis Aug 2018 #7
What kind of pollster thinks... GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #8
I doubt any of them. Well, maybe Republican ones. Behind the Aegis Aug 2018 #11
fuck that and fuck all the people that said yes to discrimination. TeamPooka Aug 2018 #9
here's the poll steve2470 Aug 2018 #10
Good job. Behind the Aegis Aug 2018 #12
my pleasure, AFAIK this outfit is legit steve2470 Aug 2018 #13
Same here. Behind the Aegis Aug 2018 #22
Soon we can discriminate against Catholics/Protestants... keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #15
Kind of like the meat and poultry industry elmac Aug 2018 #16
The poll is bogus... Maxheader Aug 2018 #19
Find a group that wasn't pre-arranged before you conduct a survey. mpcamb Aug 2018 #20
It's about goddamned time one can refuse service based on a fucking religion. BigDemVoter Aug 2018 #21
Hate against gay people is the new Jim Crow. Nitram Aug 2018 #28

PSPS

(13,598 posts)
1. Yet another sensationalist click bait. Poll?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:59 PM
Aug 2018

Funny how the article and the news release itself omits any reference to how/where such a poll was conducted or the methodology employed.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
5. The sanctity of Holy matrimony for conservative Christians - Kim Davis
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:26 PM
Aug 2018

The sanctity of Holy matrimony for conservative Christians - Kim Davis

Behind the Aegis

(53,957 posts)
7. Unsurprising.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:56 PM
Aug 2018

One doesn't have to travel far to see the contempt people have for LGBT people. Be it jokes at our expense, ignoring our issues, or flat out 'whataboutism', it is very clear to this gay man the hate, as well as, the indifference toward GLBT people is palatable. Rises in hate crimes across almost all categories, and some look at this information and suddenly "want more information." It is as it always has been...heterosexism at its worst!

Behind the Aegis

(53,957 posts)
11. I doubt any of them. Well, maybe Republican ones.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:53 PM
Aug 2018

The title refers not to the 46/48 split, but rather to the increase in those who approve of discrimination. To wit:

Over the last year, pro-discrimination views notably increased among Republicans (67 percent to 73 percent), Black Americans (36 percent to 45 percent), and Hispanic Americans (26 percent to 34 percent). White evangelical Protestants remain the religious group most likely to support anti-gay discrimination (70 percent), while the groups most strongly opposed to discrimination remain Catholics and religiously unaffiliated Americans, with 58 percent of both groups objecting to religious refusals.


The title is referencing that data, not the overall percentage, which also increased. "That’s a significant shift toward favoring discrimination from just a year ago, when the split was 41-53." Call it 'clickbait' or just a poorly written title, the fact still remains there has been a shift in those who see discrimination against LGBT as "legitimate" and shouldn't that be a bigger concern than the clumsy wording of an article title?

Behind the Aegis

(53,957 posts)
12. Good job.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:55 PM
Aug 2018

Now the "experts" can parse the information for us. Can't wait to her how this going to be 'splained.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
13. my pleasure, AFAIK this outfit is legit
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:57 PM
Aug 2018

So I think the numbers are legit. I think Trump and the SCOTUS decision have been really bad for LGBT. All the nasty RW stuff has really been coming out of the woodwork lately.

Behind the Aegis

(53,957 posts)
22. Same here.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:37 PM
Aug 2018

It is "sad" how a few people are more concerned with screeching "fake poll" with no rationale, than actually discussing the situation. But then again, it is mainly about LGBT "people".

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
15. Soon we can discriminate against Catholics/Protestants...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:01 PM
Aug 2018

Soon we can discriminate against Catholics/Protestants...

Some on each side believe that the other is not a 'true' Christian.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
16. Kind of like the meat and poultry industry
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:54 PM
Aug 2018

coming out with a poll saying Americans increasingly support discrimination against Vegans.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
21. It's about goddamned time one can refuse service based on a fucking religion.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:25 PM
Aug 2018

They're fundies? NO service!

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