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riversedge

(70,299 posts)
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 06:24 PM Aug 2018

Federal Appeals Court Confirms Border Patrol Agents Can't Kill People Across the Border With Impuni

Source: ACLU





By David Hausman, Skadden Fellow, ACLU Immigrants' Rights Project
August 8, 2018 | 2:15 PM



On October 10, 2012, José Antonio Elena Rodriguez, a 16-year-old boy, was shot and killed on Calle Internacional, a street in his hometown of Nogales, Sonora, Mexico by a U.S. Border Patrol Agent.

The agent, Lonnie Swartz, fired his gun through the U.S.-Mexico border fence, striking José Antonio approximately 10 times, with virtually all of the bullets entering from his back.
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Today, almost six years after José Antonio was killed, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals held that his mother can sue Swartz for damages. The Ninth Circuit’s decision involves several constitutional doctrines, but as the court recognized, at its core is a simple principle: “It is inconceivable that any reasonable officer could have thought that he or she could kill [José Antonio Elena Rodriguez] for no reason.”

The opinion is not only a milestone in the fight for justice for José Antonio’s family, it is the first time that a court of appeals has confirmed that the Constitution, and in particular the Fourth Amendment, applies in the context of a cross-border shooting. Indeed, this marks the first appellate case ever to apply the Fourth Amendment internationally. The ruling sets a critical precedent that Border Patrol agents cannot kill without constitutional repercussions just because the victim was across the border in Canada or Mexico.................................

Read more: https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/ice-and-border-patrol-abuses/federal-appeals-court-confirms-border-patrol?redirect=blog/federal-appeals-court-confirms-border-patrol-agents-cant-kill-people-across-border-impunity



Whow this is major. Peace to the family.








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Federal Appeals Court Confirms Border Patrol Agents Can't Kill People Across the Border With Impuni (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2018 OP
Why on earth would ANYONE think it's OK to shoot someone across a border? Wouldn't this... TreasonousBastard Aug 2018 #1
Wars have begun over less, Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2018 #4
This should not hace even been an issue. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #2
Can't fix stupid.. Maxheader Aug 2018 #3
No, but they can be fired, lose pension and be put in jail. lark Aug 2018 #5
Might want to tell border patrol, Corgigal Aug 2018 #6

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. Why on earth would ANYONE think it's OK to shoot someone across a border? Wouldn't this...
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 06:31 PM
Aug 2018

be considered some sort of illegal act of war?

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
4. Wars have begun over less,
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:36 PM
Aug 2018

But killing a sovereign citizen, in his own country, from the safety of another country's border does seem like it should have caused more of an uproar than it did.

Swartz shot that boy 10 times in the back, TEN TIMES. How is this not murder ?

A new low for Border Security.

lark

(23,155 posts)
5. No, but they can be fired, lose pension and be put in jail.
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:59 AM
Aug 2018

At least get them off the street and away from any and all guns.

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