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riversedge

(70,253 posts)
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:16 PM Aug 2018

Trump gears up to strip more clearances from officials tied to Russia investigation

Source: washpost




Trump gears up to strip more clearances from officials tied to Russia investigation

August 16 at 7:27 PM

President Trump has told advisers that he is eager to strip more security clearances as part of an escalating attack against people who have criticized him or played a role in the investigation of alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign, two White House officials said.

Over the past 19 months, Trump has fired or threatened to take action against nearly a dozen current and former officials associated with the inquiry, which he has labeled a “rigged witch hunt,” including former FBI director James B. Comey, former deputy attorney general Sally Yates and former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe. All three were dismissed.

Trump intensified his attacks this week by stripping former CIA director John Brennan of his security clearance and announcing that others are under review. Brennan and former director of national intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., who is on Trump’s review list, were among the Obama administration officials who briefed Trump before his inauguration on evidence of Russia’s interference in the campaign.

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To critics, Trump’s moves echo President Richard Nixon’s decision to force the abrupt firing of Watergate special counsel Archibald Cox.

“If you did all this in one day, it would have a ‘Saturday night massacre’ odor to it,” said Benjamin Wittes, a Brookings Institution fellow who oversees the Lawfare Blog on national security issues, referring to the 1973 move by Nixon that prompted resignations by the Justice Department’s top two officials. “But you spread it out and get people used to the first one, then you do the second one — over a long period of time, it becomes the new normal.”
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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-gears-up-to-strip-more-clearances-from-officials-tied-to-russia-probe/2018/08/16/341fe418-a165-11e8-93e3-24d1703d2a7a_story.html?utm_term=.a5460ba38513



I fear what will happen next.
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Trump gears up to strip more clearances from officials tied to Russia investigation (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2018 OP
Sure seems like obstruction C_U_L8R Aug 2018 #1
He is demonstrating consciousness of guilt. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #16
He's Bucking the IC Ccarmona Aug 2018 #2
In other words, "don't fuck with the people who protect you." It's like being in a restaurant.... George II Aug 2018 #6
They know how to make people disappear forever. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #17
Oh, come on. We're all civilized now. jmowreader Aug 2018 #20
Obstruction of justice and witness tampering. I'm sure Mueller is keeping close tabs on this. George II Aug 2018 #3
Impeach Prosecute Then Hang Him PaulX2 Aug 2018 #4
Long as he has people like Nunes, McConnell and Ryan covering for him he wont be impeached. cstanleytech Aug 2018 #10
Until Devil Nunes, Lyin Ryan, McTurtle, Gym Jordan, and Dana Russiabacker are indicted. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #18
This shows the power of arrogant privilege- dawg day Aug 2018 #5
I am hoping that the spoiled brat in the White House pazzyanne Aug 2018 #12
Obviously Not Obvious Grassy Knoll Aug 2018 #7
What about Jared Kushner? Jarqui Aug 2018 #8
He had to amend his security application at least three times. SergeStorms Aug 2018 #13
I will go further than you HuskyOffset Aug 2018 #15
Pooty's list? moondust Aug 2018 #9
Every clearance he strips from intelligence people is one more nail pazzyanne Aug 2018 #11
Are all Republicans now Banana Republicans and the KGOP ? duforsure Aug 2018 #14
LIKE NIXON ALL OVER AGAIN ROB-ROX Aug 2018 #19

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
16. He is demonstrating consciousness of guilt.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 10:23 AM
Aug 2018

Why he wants to convince everybody that he's guilty is a puzzle to me.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
2. He's Bucking the IC
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:23 PM
Aug 2018

There are more of them, than him. They know how to rip finger nails, break noses, and the such.

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. In other words, "don't fuck with the people who protect you." It's like being in a restaurant....
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:27 PM
Aug 2018

....don't piss of the person who is serving your food!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
17. They know how to make people disappear forever.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 10:24 AM
Aug 2018

Or slink away in ignominy. They've been at this game a lot longer than Turd has.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
20. Oh, come on. We're all civilized now.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 02:38 AM
Aug 2018

Those of us who have served in the IC, and those who still serve, have a much more productive and direct way of dealing with this problem.

There's no need to torture Trump. Considering his sexual proclivities, he might enjoy it.

The way to go to totally neuter and humiliate this sorry individual is to prepare all his intelligence briefings using nothing more than information from the Washington Post and the New York Times - what we call "open source collateral." Put nothing classified in his briefings.

When he starts screaming about wanting classified information in his briefings, simply recite this mantra: "Sir, that information is handled and distributed on a need-to-know basis based on the trustworthiness of the recipient." The implication is clear: We worked damn hard on this information, and if you think we're going to give it to someone like you who'll tweet it out for the hell of it, you're dumber than you look.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. Until Devil Nunes, Lyin Ryan, McTurtle, Gym Jordan, and Dana Russiabacker are indicted.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 10:25 AM
Aug 2018

And they will be.

Along with that butthead Kennedy.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
5. This shows the power of arrogant privilege-
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:27 PM
Aug 2018

We all sort of fall back a bit in the face of that sort of arrogance.
"I can fire whomever I want! I can do whatever I want. If the president does it, it's legal."

When Nixon said that, it was seen as more sign of his guilt.
Trump says it, and we wring our hands with futility.

Of course, we're outraged. But seriously, at what point do the Republicans kind of start feeling a bit negative about this? McCain is the only one, and Flake, and McCain can't be in DC, and Flake isn't very strong.

Does the GOP establishment actually think it's fine that he's kneecapping law enforcement? Obstructing justice? Exploding the deficit? They used to care about the deficit at least!

I really don't understand. I used to think I disagree with the GOP, but I never thought that most of them didn't care about the country. But what can we conclude but... they really don't care about the country?


Because Trump thinks he can get away with everything, he IS getting away with everything.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
12. I am hoping that the spoiled brat in the White House
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 02:08 AM
Aug 2018

will finely get the political and legal "spanking" he so richly deserves - and soon. If that does not happen soon, say goodbye to our nation. I am heartened by the increasing push back by media, law enforcement personnel, retired military, etc. People are stepping up at an every increasing rate. Resist. Persist, GOTV!

Jarqui

(10,128 posts)
8. What about Jared Kushner?
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 12:10 AM
Aug 2018

Kushner's security clearance restored, met with Mueller team a second time
By Evan Perez, Gloria Borger and Pamela Brown, CNN
Updated 3:17 PM ET, Wed May 23, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/23/politics/jared-kushner-security-clearance/index.html

He met with the Russians trying to get dirt on Hillary

Kushner confirms Russia meetings, says 'all of my actions were proper'
https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/24/politics/jared-kushner-russians-statement/index.html

Read the email exchange between Manafort and Kushner
Updated 1:31 PM ET, Tue August 14, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/politics/email-kushner-manafort/index.html

Kushner is working with Manafort to help Manafort install a banker who bought Manafort via a $16 mil loan.

Why does this dishonest idiot Kushner get to keep his National Security clearance while the president tries to smear an honorable public servant like John Brennan ?

Rhetorical question but it is still hard to stomach this garbage

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
13. He had to amend his security application at least three times.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 03:41 AM
Aug 2018

On those amendments he "remembered" over 100 meetings with foreign leaders he neglected to report on his security clearance papers. One of those was a meeting with Sergey Kislyak shortly before the election, oh, and a Russian banker who was purportedly going to loan Kushner money for his 666 Park Ave. boondoggle. He and Ivanka had to amend their income and assets on their financial disclosure several times as well, because they kept "finding" assets they neglected to report (including the Kushners' art collection valued at over $3 million).

Little things like that, you know? Yet Jared and Ivanka both have top security clearances, where as anyone else who failed to report so many glaring items on both their security clearance application, and their financial disclosure would certainly have been denied any security clearance whatsoever (and other people have been rejected for a lot less!).

But the Trumps are all "special". They're all above the law and any petty security questions put in place to protect our nation and it's secrets don't apply to anyone named 'Trump'. Rules and laws are put in place to keep Democrats from having an easy time giving away our nation's crown jewels.

But Brennan's a security risk, right Little Donnie?

I want Trump's blood pressure to go off the scale. I want him to have a debilitating stroke, so that all of the vain bullshit that holds this man together is totally destroyed. I want his right side to be paralyzed, his face drooping and drooling from his mouth. I want "Don-Juan" Trump to be a hideous monster that no woman, for any amount of money, would ever go near. I've never wished anything close to this on anyone in my entire life. I can't ever remember wishing harm on anyone, ever. But all of these things, and more, I wish for Donald Trump. It would be a fitting end for someone so empty, so mean, so vindictive, so vain, and someone with such a false sense of superiority. For you, Donald J. Trump: These are the things I wish for YOU! I know by doing this I open myself up to same criticism heaped upon Trump, about being vindictive and mean. Just this once.....just this once. Trump does it every waking moment of his life.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
9. Pooty's list?
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 12:51 AM
Aug 2018

Isn't everyone on Spanky's enemies list someone Pooty would call an "enemy" for doing their jobs honorably and opposing his criminal behavior?

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
11. Every clearance he strips from intelligence people is one more nail
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 02:01 AM
Aug 2018

in his collusion and obstruction coffin. Go, Mueller!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
14. Are all Republicans now Banana Republicans and the KGOP ?
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 08:19 AM
Aug 2018

They're setting themselves up for a major disaster when they're all exposed. Trump is working for putin.

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
19. LIKE NIXON ALL OVER AGAIN
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 08:55 PM
Aug 2018

I remember the last days of nixon. This is a repeat of his illegal actions of a CROOK... Nixon tried the same CRAP during his last few months. I think this only means that the president is going to be labeled by everyone as a TRAITOR......The GOP support for this traitor must be giving them acid indigestion.......Get ready for GOP to enter phase two for supporting the common crook: diarrhea........

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