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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 04:25 PM Aug 2018

Mormon church leaders no longer want to be called 'Mormon'

Source: NY Daily News

Leaders of the Utah-based church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints called on people to no longer refer to their faith as Mormonism, despite the fact that one of the church’s central texts will still retain the name, “The Book of Mormon.”

An updated style guide posted online Thursday also asked that people to no longer use the name “LDS” as a shorthand way to describe the religion. Instead, it recommends using phrases like “the Church” or the “Church of Jesus Christ” in place of just the initials.

While they do hope to phase out the term “Mormonism” almost completely, they will allow for use of the word “Mormon” in proper names — as is the case with “The Book of Mormon” — or “when used as an adjective in such historical expressions as ‘Mormon Trail.’”

The move generated buzz on social media in Utah, with people pointing out the release had been disseminated from a Twitter account with “Mormon” in the handle and posted on website mormonnewsroom.org.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny-news-dont-call-mormons-mormon-anymore-20180817-story.html

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Mormon church leaders no longer want to be called 'Mormon' (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 OP
Can we still call them 'moralistic whackos who believe in the magical properties of underwear'? Aristus Aug 2018 #1
Perhaps all of that fetishist Mormon porn on the internet is damaging their name. TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #12
if you paid 10% of your gross income for that underwear you'd believe in it too! Corvo Bianco Aug 2018 #19
Sounds like a group just making it up as they go along? Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #52
Now we can finally call them Gladys pepperbear Aug 2018 #57
So cool - God talks to Nelson and wants a rebranding!!! Pachamama Aug 2018 #2
I sometimes forget the second "m". Ooops. moreland01 Aug 2018 #6
Nice neighbors! I wish we had nice neighbors like that! Kajun Gal Aug 2018 #10
He wants the name of the book for now to stay the same...until they update that Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #53
Not long ago they started a I'm a Mormon" campaign DesertRat Aug 2018 #3
Always trying to mask who you are. Don't get it. democratisphere Aug 2018 #4
Henceforth, I shall no longer be called marylandblue marylandblue Aug 2018 #5
lol TeamPooka Aug 2018 #17
What do they have against the word Mormon? BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #7
It's just a rebranding... Blue_Tires Aug 2018 #31
"Oh, I see", said the blind man. BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #34
Would that be like when Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2018 #43
They haven't ever liked being called Mormons, at least officially jmowreader Aug 2018 #55
And we wonder why they believe republican bullshit GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #58
MAD Magazine had a good comment on this one jmowreader Aug 2018 #66
Sure. Good luck with that! silverweb Aug 2018 #8
Good luck with that Solly Mack Aug 2018 #9
Kolobites? Kolobians? Kolobans? TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #11
Maybe it's the association. Turbineguy Aug 2018 #13
Will Christians stop using the word 'Christ'? FiveGoodMen Aug 2018 #14
"Hypocrites" or "The Church of Hypocrites" from now on ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #20
Rebranding a religion is a new idea. Maybe they could design a new Nike like Swoosh for a logo? TeamPooka Aug 2018 #15
from now on d_r Aug 2018 #16
They should try LSD They_Live Aug 2018 #18
THEY GOT IT WRONG AGAIN ROB-ROX Aug 2018 #21
Still not clear. Do they consider themselves Christians? If not, what else are we gonna call them? brush Aug 2018 #32
They consider themselves Christian for appearances. Corvo Bianco Aug 2018 #35
Thanks for the info. So the word Mormon is a creation of Joseph Smith? If so it seems strange... brush Aug 2018 #36
Yes Mormon is one of the prophets/war lords in the book. Corvo Bianco Aug 2018 #39
They could call themselves The Smithers. Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2018 #44
That's taken...see "The Simpsons". brush Aug 2018 #46
I was thinking Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2018 #61
Magic underwear, however, will still be required. nt Codeine Aug 2018 #22
Quite a few years ago a friend (who is younger) told me they moved to a new town. TNNurse Aug 2018 #23
If any religion should re-brand it would be Catholic, and I'm Catholic. A sad one to say..n/t monmouth4 Aug 2018 #24
Just get rid of the second "m" and you're gold. Liberalagogo Aug 2018 #25
That's hilarious. Then they can call themselves Palindromes. Oh wait. Not quite. brush Aug 2018 #33
They can desire to be called anything they want... defacto7 Aug 2018 #26
+1 2naSalit Aug 2018 #29
Changing your name doesn't change who you are. Iggo Aug 2018 #27
The angel's name was "Moroni" - a scene from "Angels in America" Glorfindel Aug 2018 #28
I Think That's Where the Term "MORON" Cometh Frometh. They Could Adopt That! DoctorJoJo Aug 2018 #30
That was good! 2naSalit Aug 2018 #37
Nothing against any religion but the angel Moroni story is pretty strange. Snellius Aug 2018 #40
The audience had a good question! Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2018 #62
they want to be called IHOP KayF Aug 2018 #38
They will be known as ForPeace Aug 2018 #41
thus exposing themselves to a particularly funny typo... 0rganism Aug 2018 #42
This Is Not New Ccarmona Aug 2018 #45
How about "The Marks"? hatrack Aug 2018 #47
So they are having some "Branding" problems ThoughtCriminal Aug 2018 #48
Imaginary sky beings. sarcasmo Aug 2018 #49
Will they have to change the name of the musical too? nt dflprincess Aug 2018 #50
What's the difference between LSD and LDS? nwduke Aug 2018 #51
K. dchill Aug 2018 #54
They can call themselve whatever they want Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2018 #56
Smithians? Smithites? Lessmons? Wolf Frankula Aug 2018 #59
"The Cult" BlueIdaho Aug 2018 #60
Let's just call them jb5150 Aug 2018 #63
Obama kept them enslaved. Trump freed them. - Time for a name change dalton99a Aug 2018 #64
Prolly becuz peeples offen misspell it as "Moron"...nt GReedDiamond Aug 2018 #65

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
52. Sounds like a group just making it up as they go along?
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 08:01 PM
Aug 2018

Fine tuning the edges...re-making the mistakes of the past...etc.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
2. So cool - God talks to Nelson and wants a rebranding!!!
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 04:27 PM
Aug 2018

Amazing....

Sadly, it’s only going to backfire and they will definitely always be referred to as the Mormons!!!

moreland01

(740 posts)
6. I sometimes forget the second "m". Ooops.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 04:32 PM
Aug 2018

I lived in Utah for 2 years and really liked the people. But the religious things they believe in, and the traditions that they follow, are whack.

Our neighbor (who knew we weren't Mormons) said to me "As long as you live by me you will never go hungry." and then proceeded to leave baked bread on my doorstep (YUM!) and fill my kitchen with produce in the summer. He made me realize how nice they are to have as neighbors. They never once proselytized.

Just don't expect to have a beer with them and shoot-the-shit on the back porch.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
53. He wants the name of the book for now to stay the same...until they update that
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 08:02 PM
Aug 2018

to the 'book of nelsons'.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
3. Not long ago they started a I'm a Mormon" campaign
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 04:30 PM
Aug 2018

And released a movie called "Meet the Mormons". And there's the world famous "Mormon Tabernacle Choir. But now they want to disassociate themselves with the name "Mormon"?


democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
4. Always trying to mask who you are. Don't get it.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 04:31 PM
Aug 2018

More appropriate: LaDDer Day Saints.

Must be having a difficult time finding new LDS recruits.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. Henceforth, I shall no longer be called marylandblue
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 04:32 PM
Aug 2018

But shall simply be called The Person or The Church of the Person.

BigmanPigman

(51,613 posts)
34. "Oh, I see", said the blind man.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 06:21 PM
Aug 2018

Personally I have always preferred LDS. I have slight dyslexia and the first time I ever read LDS I was in my 20s and I thought it was LSD and got all happy. I was disappointed when I found out I was wrong...thought I had found a religion that I could relate to.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
43. Would that be like when
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 07:06 PM
Aug 2018

Monsanto Chemical Company just wanted to be known as Monsanto, so as to purge the image of the toxic nature of their products to something warmer and fuzzier ? Cuz, I'm already seeing a parallel here . . . .

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
55. They haven't ever liked being called Mormons, at least officially
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 08:44 PM
Aug 2018

This gets complex, so bear with me: Latter-Day Saints theology teaches there were several tribes - the Nephites and Lamanites being the most important to this story - that left the Middle East 600 years before the birth of Jesus and settled in the Americas. 800 years later, the Nephites fell into unbelief and wickedness, and were destroyed by the Lamanites.

One of the Nephitic generals, a fine fellow named Mormon, recorded the history of the Nephites on stone plates. Before he died, he left the plates in the care of his son Moroni - from whom we do not derive the popular insult "moron." Moroni compiled the plates into a book, the Book of Mormon, which he inscribed on new plates made of gold. In 1823. God resurrected Moroni in order to reveal the Book of Mormon to Joseph Smith. Smith translated the plates into English, then returned them to Moroni. It is said that the Church elders will kill anyone whose eyes alight on the golden plates.

The strange thing is, the Nephites pissed off the Lamanites in AD 385. Moroni died in AD 421. How does this work?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
58. And we wonder why they believe republican bullshit
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:53 PM
Aug 2018

Their entire belief system is right out of fantasy fiction. They will believe anything.

Of course, the same goes for all of the literal bible believers. 25% of the population.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
66. MAD Magazine had a good comment on this one
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 02:30 AM
Aug 2018

They were doing a "religion" primer that ripped on all the major religions pretty much equally. I don't remember the one about the Mormons, but this is what they said about the Catholics.

"The Catholic Church believes in miracles.
The man in the white collar is called a Priest.
Everyone brings him all their problems to solve.
They bring him their marital problems, even though he's never been married.
They bring him their business problems, even though he's never been in business.
They bring him their sexual problems, even though he's never had sex.
And now you know why the Catholic Church believes in miracles!"

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
11. Kolobites? Kolobians? Kolobans?
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 04:46 PM
Aug 2018

.

The Mormon Trail, is that what led through to where the Mountain Meadows Massacre occurred?

.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
16. from now on
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 04:54 PM
Aug 2018

we will be referred to as "The only TRUE church" and our members as "the only ones who will really get into Heaven."

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
21. THEY GOT IT WRONG AGAIN
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 05:04 PM
Aug 2018

I think the Catholic church has "THE CHURCH" locked up since they only used this for 1,000 years. I did not think they related to Jesus since they have MORNI the bugle blowing angle on their temples.......Hey they do not use the work CHURCH they use TEMPLE.............I think the CULT has gone MENTAL.......

brush

(53,794 posts)
32. Still not clear. Do they consider themselves Christians? If not, what else are we gonna call them?
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 06:16 PM
Aug 2018

Corvo Bianco

(1,148 posts)
35. They consider themselves Christian for appearances.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 06:28 PM
Aug 2018

Christ is featured in their gospel, but nowhere near as prominently as Joseph Smith and the fictional characters from his Book of Mormon. Revelations from God in the 1830's are noted in another Mormon scripture called Doctrine and Covenants. The bible is there for reference, but it carries the least weight.

They've been shy of the word Mormon since I was a kid, but the word Mormon never developed taboo in the church and it clearly hasn't gone away. Just call them Mormons it's fine.

brush

(53,794 posts)
36. Thanks for the info. So the word Mormon is a creation of Joseph Smith? If so it seems strange...
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 06:32 PM
Aug 2018

that they want to disassociate themselves from it.

Corvo Bianco

(1,148 posts)
39. Yes Mormon is one of the prophets/war lords in the book.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 06:42 PM
Aug 2018

It is a curious move to try to rebrand this way when we know the Book of Mormon isn't going anywhere... maybe they'll censor Mormon's name when they read their scriptures

TNNurse

(6,928 posts)
23. Quite a few years ago a friend (who is younger) told me they moved to a new town.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 05:23 PM
Aug 2018

She met neighbors who introduced themselves as "LDS". She said she thought briefly it must have something to do with learning disabilities but kept her mouth shut. She asked someone else what it meant. She could not imagine why they would tell you about their learning disability and that the whole family had the same one.

brush

(53,794 posts)
33. That's hilarious. Then they can call themselves Palindromes. Oh wait. Not quite.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 06:20 PM
Aug 2018

They'd have to change the first M to an N.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
26. They can desire to be called anything they want...
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 05:55 PM
Aug 2018

but they will always be identified as Mormon whether they like it or not.

2naSalit

(86,664 posts)
37. That was good!
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 06:34 PM
Aug 2018

Funnier than Napoleon Dynamite, which I thought was a massive snore. And I had lived in a dense mormon population area, near where the movie was made even. My nonmormon friends thought it was a riot.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
40. Nothing against any religion but the angel Moroni story is pretty strange.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 06:49 PM
Aug 2018

But I suppose drinking symbolic blood and eating symbolic flesh as rituals is too.
Once visited the Mormon temple lit up on the hills over Oakland, took a very gracious tour and asked to see what was in the inner sanctum back rooms. "No, I'm sorry," the guide explained. "You can't go in. We do more for the dead than the living in there." The angel is said to have brought a book to Joseph Smith. But when I asked if anyone could see it, she said that God took it back. Overdue?

0rganism

(23,958 posts)
42. thus exposing themselves to a particularly funny typo...
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 06:59 PM
Aug 2018

of course, they had a different silly typo problem before.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
45. This Is Not New
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 07:10 PM
Aug 2018

They really haven’t liked being called “Mormon” for a long time. But nobody cares outside their cult.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
48. So they are having some "Branding" problems
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 07:38 PM
Aug 2018

I wonder how long it will be before conservatives don't want to be called Republicans.

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
59. Smithians? Smithites? Lessmons?
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:59 PM
Aug 2018

They can decide. "How can you follow a prophet named Joe Smith? It sounds like an alias."

Wolf

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
60. "The Cult"
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 10:19 PM
Aug 2018

It’s a fucking cult, no more, no less. I grew up in the cult. You’ll never find a bigger bunch of self deceived money driven hypocrites anywhere ever.

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