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BumRushDaShow

(129,084 posts)
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:23 PM Aug 2018

Sen. Susan Collins said Kavanaugh sees Roe v. Wade as 'settled law'

Source: Washington Post



Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh told Sen. Susan Collins on Tuesday that Roe v. Wade was "settled law," the Maine Republican told reporters after their meeting.

Collins, who supports abortion rights, said she raised the issue with Kavanaugh, who is meeting with senators ahead of his confirmation hearings next month."We talked about whether he considered Roe to be settled law," Collins said, referring to the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision that established a woman's right to terminate her pregnancy.

Collins said Kavanaugh told her that he agreed with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., who said during his 2005 confirmation hearing that Roe was "settled as a precedent of the court." Collins and Kavanaugh met for more than two hours on Tuesday morning. "He said that he agreed with what Justice Roberts said at his nomination hearing, in which he said it was settled law. We had a very good, thorough discussion," Collins said.

The senator has not said whether she will support Kavanaugh, but she has also declined to offer strong criticism of President Trump's nominee. With Republicans holding a slim 51-to-49 Senate majority, support from Collins and Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) would ensure Kavanaugh's confirmation.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/sen-susan-collins-said-kavanaugh-sees-roe-v-wade-as-settled-law/2018/08/21/214ae5dc-a54c-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html



To quote Joe Wilson - "You lie!".
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Sen. Susan Collins said Kavanaugh sees Roe v. Wade as 'settled law' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 OP
It wouldn't stop ultracons like Kavanaugh chipping away at Roe til nothing left Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #1
What A Pushover Me. Aug 2018 #2
All smiles and golly gee Mr. Kavanaugh. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2018 #7
Seems She Never Learns Me. Aug 2018 #23
Meaningless statement Va Lefty Aug 2018 #3
Welp, guess that means they are gonning to get cracking on it day 2 then. Afromania Aug 2018 #4
Come on, Susan. He's wanting that lifetime job in a robe in the worst way. mobeau69 Aug 2018 #5
She also believes in the Tooth Fairy and Santa . Autumn Aug 2018 #6
Don't keep us in suspense. How will you vote? nt Snellius Aug 2018 #8
Yeah Faux pas Aug 2018 #9
Collins is the ultimate dupe The Liberal Lion Aug 2018 #10
yep, like all repugs elmac Aug 2018 #22
She spent all her capital some time ago 2naSalit Aug 2018 #11
Do you suppose maybe, just MAYBE, he told you what he thinks you want to hear? davsand Aug 2018 #12
I have never understood how she keeps being elected. Lonestarblue Aug 2018 #16
Do not trust her. TNNurse Aug 2018 #13
Susan Collins is a chump! OMGWTF Aug 2018 #14
The people who vote her in are Chumps MattP Aug 2018 #56
and you believed him? vlyons Aug 2018 #15
Justice Roberts said the same thing in his confirmation hearing... cbdo2007 Aug 2018 #17
Simpleton. GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #18
Bullshit montanacowboy Aug 2018 #19
Sweet nothings today, but... yonder Aug 2018 #20
O For Fu*k's Sake ResistantAmerican17 Aug 2018 #21
Except, he will be fine with states passing laws that Ilsa Aug 2018 #24
Exactly correct DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #34
ok so then... rtracey Aug 2018 #25
Settled until a case comes before him. yallerdawg Aug 2018 #26
She's either gullible or lying. comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #27
In this case, the answer is both. SamKnause Aug 2018 #29
Can you believe anything a Republican says ??? NO !!! SamKnause Aug 2018 #28
Oh, right, Susan. Polly Hennessey Aug 2018 #30
She believes everything told to her by Republicans. LakeSuperiorView Aug 2018 #31
I think we - on the Left JustAnotherGen Aug 2018 #32
She believes them every time. What a gullible fool. Nitram Aug 2018 #33
Hey Susie Brown, they always pull the football out of the way. rickford66 Aug 2018 #35
Hoodwinked Yet Again--Will This Hopeless Ninny Never Learn? DoctorJoJo Aug 2018 #36
Settled until they overturn it. malthaussen Aug 2018 #37
Where does she indicate that she believed him? tymorial Aug 2018 #38
Who said it wasn't... Mike Nelson Aug 2018 #39
Not the first time she has been lied to and belived it. randr Aug 2018 #40
Hey, Susan! I've got some land to sell you... displacedtexan Aug 2018 #41
Oh, please, Charlie. demmiblue Aug 2018 #42
Collins, if you believe a fucking word Kavanaugh says I've got these for sale 47of74 Aug 2018 #43
You forgot cstanleytech Aug 2018 #46
Oh yeah, good point. 47of74 Aug 2018 #47
I honestly believe should would indeed buy a bridge. nt Javaman Aug 2018 #44
My feelings over him can be summed up by a quote by Marilyn Milian who unfortunately is a Republican cstanleytech Aug 2018 #45
Susan Collins is as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle BeyondGeography Aug 2018 #48
Forgot this:"....which is ripe to be overturned." sinkingfeeling Aug 2018 #49
Collins gullibility inexcuseable. Kav has a long,written history ag physical self determination stuffmatters Aug 2018 #50
I gotta bridge in Brooklyn AND a bag of magic beans to sell Collins. Golden Raisin Aug 2018 #51
Whatever lets her sleep at night. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2018 #52
I might have some respect for Collins if she would cut the shit and stop with the games Docreed2003 Aug 2018 #53
Too bad Collins isn't up for reelection this year. I think we could bring her down. mainer Aug 2018 #54
The Senator is, with all apologies, ...... JPK Aug 2018 #55
Fox assures Collins that the hens are safe with him! yellowcanine Aug 2018 #57
She's just following her script. haele Aug 2018 #58

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
1. It wouldn't stop ultracons like Kavanaugh chipping away at Roe til nothing left
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:26 PM
Aug 2018

... and then suddenly it won't be settled law any more. Surprise!

davsand

(13,421 posts)
12. Do you suppose maybe, just MAYBE, he told you what he thinks you want to hear?
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:32 PM
Aug 2018

Starting to wonder if that woman has the sense God gave a duck.





Laura

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
16. I have never understood how she keeps being elected.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:36 PM
Aug 2018

She betrays average people on almost every major issue. I’m sure McConnell has known for ages that all he has to do is make promises that he will never keep and she rolls over—every time. Like most Republicans, spineless.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
17. Justice Roberts said the same thing in his confirmation hearing...
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:36 PM
Aug 2018

and that he wouldn't allow a challenge to it while he was on the court, for that reason.

I don't trust Kavanaugh when he says it, but I do tend to trust Roberts.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
24. Except, he will be fine with states passing laws that
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:47 PM
Aug 2018

Require abortions only be performed on Tuesdays during a solar eclipse in odd-number months by a doctor who is a Little Person (aka dwarf) after waiting for every member of the Senate to sign off on it and publish it in 20 newspapers.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
25. ok so then...
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:47 PM
Aug 2018

Ok so then, I want every democrat Senator to ask at his confirmation hearing if he feels Roe v Wade is settled, and if he will vote in the positive. If he says no a,d then does it, he is guilty of lying to the Senate and can be impeached or charged with contempt of Congress.

EVERY DEMOCRAT SENATOR NEEDS TO ASK AND GET HIS COMMENTS ON RECORD.....NO BS BEATING AROUND THE BUSH.....ANSWERS.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
26. Settled until a case comes before him.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:48 PM
Aug 2018

"Settled law" is a widely used term to dodge answering the question.

Southern Democrats fall back on it all the time. Along with "I'm personally yada-yada-yada...but it's settled law."

SamKnause

(13,107 posts)
28. Can you believe anything a Republican says ??? NO !!!
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:50 PM
Aug 2018

EVIL LIARS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Polly Hennessey

(6,799 posts)
30. Oh, right, Susan.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:51 PM
Aug 2018

He couldn’t possibly be telling you a lie, now could he. The word around town is tell Susan anything, she’ll believe you.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
32. I think we - on the Left
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:53 PM
Aug 2018

Of all flavors and stripes should stop giving her the attention she always desperately seeks.

She has WAY too much power. And at the end of the day - she always stays 'true red'.

rickford66

(5,524 posts)
35. Hey Susie Brown, they always pull the football out of the way.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:59 PM
Aug 2018

Why are you even a Senator ? Just put a brick on your yes button and go home.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
39. Who said it wasn't...
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 02:17 PM
Aug 2018

… settled law? Someone should tell Susan Collins and Kavanaugh the law was settled decades ago... that's how the Supreme Court works. Now, Kavanaugh can go ahead and unsettle it, if he wants; that's also how the Supreme Court works.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
45. My feelings over him can be summed up by a quote by Marilyn Milian who unfortunately is a Republican
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 04:54 PM
Aug 2018

"I wouldn't believe you if your tongue came notarized"
In other words he should not be a sitting SCOTUS judge.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
50. Collins gullibility inexcuseable. Kav has a long,written history ag physical self determination
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 06:20 PM
Aug 2018

It's all in plain sight & in your face public record, Sen Collins. Here's three googles for you:

Just recently This theocratic zealot(loon) fiercely fought ag & dissented his Circuit's decision to allow an immigrant minor rape victim to have an abortion;
Kavanaugh's dissent in a famous case of forced abortion,sterilization by the government(he's essentially unconditionally in favor of giving the state total power over the disabled) also, at its foundation, argued the state's rights to overrule individual self determination;
And Kavanaugh, like Gorsuch, is vehemently against any right to die legislation for the terminally ill.

Susan Collins had better start googling Kavanaugh before she runs interference and votes for this monster. It's time for her to start understanding that abject cruelty of the government over individual physical sovereignty ..from birth to death.. is Kavanaugh's ideology and his own "settled law" shown i his written opinions and dissents for decades.

Kavanaugh just like Gorsuch is lying when he says that he would uphold SCOTUS "settled law". And Collins ignorance is simply indefensible. Kavanaugh's records is all there in plain sight.

52. Whatever lets her sleep at night.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 06:38 PM
Aug 2018

Trump vowed on the campaign to appoint only justices who would overturn Roe v. Wade. He's appointed two so far. Do you really think they can't figure a way around that landmark case to weaken it into oblivion?

Docreed2003

(16,862 posts)
53. I might have some respect for Collins if she would cut the shit and stop with the games
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 06:43 PM
Aug 2018

This whole "I'm a moderate...yaddah yaddah.." crap is just played out. As if anyone here is surprised by her response to Kavanaugh...her vote was never in question.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
54. Too bad Collins isn't up for reelection this year. I think we could bring her down.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 06:48 PM
Aug 2018

This is just one more piece of proof that "Susan Collins is an idiot."

haele

(12,660 posts)
58. She's just following her script.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 03:29 PM
Aug 2018

She doesn't really care one way or another anymore - she's just in it for a paycheck and party circuit. She has run all her campaigns as an audition to keep playing the role of the "Moderate Republican", when she's just a party hack, whatever she may have started out as.

Haele

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