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highplainsdem

(48,993 posts)
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 07:37 AM Aug 2018

Michael Cohen's lawyer says he will not accept pardon from 'criminal' Donald Trump

Source: The Independent

Michael Cohen's lawyer has said his client will refuse any pardon from Donald Trump, branding the US president a "criminal".

Lanny Davis, who was hired by Mr Cohen last month, told National Public Radio Mr Trump's former attorney would "never" accept a pardon from "a man that he considers to be a corrupt and a dangerous person".

-snip-

"He has flatly authorised me to say under no circumstances would he accept a pardon from Mr Trump, who uses the pardon power in a way that no president in American history has ever used," he said.

Mr Davis accused Mr Trump of using the power to "relieve people of guilt" for "political cronies" who "committed crimes", adding, "Mr Cohen is not interested in being dirtied by a pardon from such a man".

-snip-

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/michael-cohen-donald-trump-pardon-trial-guilty-russia-investigation-a8502451.html



Audio of NPR interview here:

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/22/640795902/michael-cohens-attorney-lanny-davis-speaks-out-about-guilty-pleas
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Michael Cohen's lawyer says he will not accept pardon from 'criminal' Donald Trump (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2018 OP
Well then! fountainofyouth Aug 2018 #1
"Mr Cohen is not interested in being dirtied by a pardon from such a man". volstork Aug 2018 #2
I know this isn't a 'change of heart', but I still like it. mpcamb Aug 2018 #3
Michael Cohen sees the light bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #4
I was so hoping Martha Stewart would say this Lulu KC Aug 2018 #5
Cohen hopes he will get no prison if he fully cooperates before his December sentencing wishstar Aug 2018 #6
There is zero chance amcgrath Aug 2018 #7
Forgiveness Roy Rolling Aug 2018 #11
Agree. colorado_ufo Aug 2018 #13
Cohen is a scumbag, but if he wants to go legit he could be useful. D23MIURG23 Aug 2018 #16
Cohen saw Manafort go to jail. gordianot Aug 2018 #8
He's right. Donald Trump is a criminal who belongs in prison. dalton99a Aug 2018 #9
100% right workinclasszero Aug 2018 #20
You said it perfectly! This illegal president needs to be ... SWBTATTReg Aug 2018 #24
Avenatti voiced an interesting theory... GetRidOfThem Aug 2018 #10
Hold your enemies close, your friends closer n/t sarge43 Aug 2018 #12
MSNBC said that Cohen has state charges BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #14
Glad you spotted that. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2018 #30
Hold on to your butts Dopers_Greed Aug 2018 #15
... yuiyoshida Aug 2018 #19
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." truthisfreedom Aug 2018 #17
Wow, that's great that he said this karin_sj Aug 2018 #18
Then his lawyer is an idiot MosheFeingold Aug 2018 #21
Lawyer's job is to follow client's wishes marylandblue Aug 2018 #28
Cohen's "Saul at Tarsus" moment DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #22
If Cohen ends up bringing down the Trump Administration, he'll be regarded as a hero by the left. bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #26
Why do I get the feeling he is fishing for a pardon from Pence? Cohen better just hope if he is cstanleytech Aug 2018 #23
Not every day you see a tax cheat with principles. Major Nikon Aug 2018 #25
its not out of trying to be above the fray drray23 Aug 2018 #27
Maybe so, but why did he announce that? marylandblue Aug 2018 #29
Ooooo-kay. Hekate Aug 2018 #31

volstork

(5,401 posts)
2. "Mr Cohen is not interested in being dirtied by a pardon from such a man".
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 07:48 AM
Aug 2018

...but somehow had no problem being dirtied by being on the payroll for such a man.

mpcamb

(2,871 posts)
3. I know this isn't a 'change of heart', but I still like it.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 08:02 AM
Aug 2018

It's the kind of statement that changes the discussion.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
4. Michael Cohen sees the light
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 08:05 AM
Aug 2018

Sounds to me like he doesn't want to be remembered to history as someone who only flipped to save himself. He's refusing a pardon here, he's cooperated to a certain point without a deal for further cooperation. Either they have everything they need from him, and there is all that evidence, or he really has sided with his conscience. He is a lawyer, they are taught right from wrong. Surely he was dependent on Trump's legal business for his income, he likely went along with or winked at a lot that gave him pause, and never expected Trump to win the election. From the Tower meeting on, some participants had to be talking to themselves. Except for the arrogant cheaters at the top that planned the whole thing.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
6. Cohen hopes he will get no prison if he fully cooperates before his December sentencing
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 08:13 AM
Aug 2018

His statements yesterday incriminating Trump and his lawyer's statements are very clear. Cohen prefers to stay out of jail by telling all he knows rather than languishing in jail like Manafort, waiting around for an elusive pardon that may never come because Trump needs fall guys to get out of his Russian conspiracy problems and Manafort and Cohen fit the bill as Trump scapegoats.

amcgrath

(397 posts)
7. There is zero chance
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 08:26 AM
Aug 2018

that Trump would pardon someone who has betrayed him.

Lanny Davis, your client is a scumbag. When you portray him as some sort of 'fighter for justice' you embarrass yourself and demean any argument you might make.

You are both just humping the leg of the Mueller investigation and trying to rebrand Cohen as a decent man.

He is not.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
11. Forgiveness
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 08:55 AM
Aug 2018

Nobody expects him to "rebrand" Cohen. Cohen is starting a new life. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. The lifestyle of a Trump "fixer" was a dead end, he's taking a new path.

He's not "rebranding" as a saint, he's "repositioning" himself as the criminal who brought down Trump. He deserves recognition for that, not a refusal to acknowledge it because he is a lifelong weasel.

colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
13. Agree.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:19 AM
Aug 2018

He has a family he loves. Give the man a chance. He is also extremely hurt that after all this devotion he was made a fool and thrown under the bus.

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)
16. Cohen is a scumbag, but if he wants to go legit he could be useful.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:45 AM
Aug 2018

It's a common tactic to try to get a client off by cooperating and behaving decently. No need to attack the Davis for trying to go down this route with Cohen.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
8. Cohen saw Manafort go to jail.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 08:41 AM
Aug 2018

Even though Manafort could get a pardon he is finished post pardon. Cohen really wants to be a latter day John Dean. At the end of the day who wants to be a broke ex con with huge legal bills?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
20. 100% right
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:32 AM
Aug 2018

Trump is the head of a crime family that has been looting the public treasury since day one of his installation.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
24. You said it perfectly! This illegal president needs to be ...
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 11:33 AM
Aug 2018

impeached and thrown out of office....

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
10. Avenatti voiced an interesting theory...
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 08:52 AM
Aug 2018

Michael is angry because Agent Orange never invited him to join him in the White House...

Good Mob bosses don't forget their most loyal underlings...

karin_sj

(810 posts)
18. Wow, that's great that he said this
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:16 AM
Aug 2018

Because it brings attention to what Trump is trying to do by normalizing the pardoning of criminals like that deranged sheriff Arpaio & Scooter Libby, the guy who took the fall for some of the crimes committed by the Bush administration.

If Trump tries to pardon Manafort or anyone else, hopefully, these words will be remembered and repeated.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
21. Then his lawyer is an idiot
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:34 AM
Aug 2018

His job is to help his client not go to prison.

Politics be damned, I'd take a pardon.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
28. Lawyer's job is to follow client's wishes
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:05 PM
Aug 2018

A lawyer may advise a client that he should plead not guilty because the prosecution's case is weak, but the client may still plead guilty for his own reasons.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
22. Cohen's "Saul at Tarsus" moment
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:39 AM
Aug 2018

imho. Don't forget John Dean was a Nixon man and up to his ears in Watergate, even originating the infamous "enemies list" letter. Dean came clean, went to jail and now is a respected elder. There's no reason Cohen can't go down the same path.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
23. Why do I get the feeling he is fishing for a pardon from Pence? Cohen better just hope if he is
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 11:14 AM
Aug 2018

that Mueller does not find evidence that Pence was in on the scheme as well because then that pardon goes flying out the window as well.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
27. its not out of trying to be above the fray
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:53 PM
Aug 2018

Its because his only hope to get ALL charges wiped is to cooperate. Trump's pardon would only remove the federal charges.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
29. Maybe so, but why did he announce that?
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:09 PM
Aug 2018

He wants to stick it to Trump, and he is willing to spend at least some time in jail to make it happen.

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