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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:32 AM Aug 2018

Trump echoes mob bosses -- and praises 'brave man' Manafort for refusing to 'break'

Source: RawStory



BRAD REED
22 AUG 2018 AT 09:27 ET

President Donald Trump on Wednesday praised his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort for refusing to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe.

“I feel very badly for Paul Manafort and his wonderful family,” the president wrote on Twitter. “‘Justice’ took a 12 year old tax case, among other things, applied tremendous pressure on him and, unlike Michael Cohen, he refused to ‘break’ – make up stories in order to get a ‘deal.’ Such respect for a brave man!”




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Trump echoes mob bosses -- and praises 'brave man' Manafort for refusing to 'break' (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2018 OP
Message: stick with me and you'll get your pardon MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #1
The bottom message is that Republicans, each and everyone, are scum bags. olegramps Aug 2018 #18
Agree across the board with you MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #32
That's a message to their Russian debt holders underpants Aug 2018 #2
Sarah, does the president believe there should be Watchfoxheadexplodes Aug 2018 #3
He just called Michael Cohen - who testified under oath - a liar bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #4
treason, conspiracy,obstruction of justice, among other things..... GusBob Aug 2018 #5
That's a signal for an incoming pardon and/or commutation of sentence. nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #6
Absolutely. dalton99a Aug 2018 #7
Who said this? jayschool2013 Aug 2018 #8
Whenever Trump tries to pay PatSeg Aug 2018 #9
"Don't worry about anything Frankie 5 Angels." Botany Aug 2018 #10
Old School of the Old Timers.... Pachamama Aug 2018 #16
why do you think bdamomma Aug 2018 #25
Speaking of "mob talk" how about Trump calling a person "a rat" Botany Aug 2018 #27
I thought the orange gasbag doesn't like people who get caught njhoneybadger Aug 2018 #11
This is the "law and order" president praising a convicted criminal. procon Aug 2018 #12
Well apparently tax fraud and bank fraud aren't "real" crimes in Trumpworld emulatorloo Aug 2018 #30
this potus heaven05 Aug 2018 #13
Reality: Manafort was convicted of bank fraud in March and 'spring' 2016 muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #14
Paulie's not a rat, unlike John Dean. Mc Mike Aug 2018 #15
TRANSLATION: Don't RAT me out and I'll both praise and PARDON you........ Bengus81 Aug 2018 #17
"Among other things..." forgotmylogin Aug 2018 #19
The "Look who broke his cherry" scene from 'Goodfellas'. peekaloo Aug 2018 #20
Unindicted Co-conspirator Trump workinclasszero Aug 2018 #21
Me and Franni think Trump dodged a bullet with this one Mr. Ected Aug 2018 #22
HE'll change his tune duforsure Aug 2018 #23
LOL...I like these Tweets...... Bengus81 Aug 2018 #24
or if those supporters bdamomma Aug 2018 #26
Thanks for those! Bayard Aug 2018 #28
Trump appreciates Manafort taking one for the team. Teamwork. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2018 #29
'cause if he breaks, he has to answer to Putin. joanbarnes Aug 2018 #31
When someone shows you who they are.... MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #33
Was the 2016 bank fraud really twelve years ago? Or does it just feel that way? meadowlander Aug 2018 #34
#Omerta Peachhead22 Aug 2018 #35

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
18. The bottom message is that Republicans, each and everyone, are scum bags.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:25 AM
Aug 2018

The damage that they have done is irreparable. Nixon directed a gang of burglars and cutthroats and was driven from office and guilty were sent to jail. Millions of Republicans continued to support and adore him. Reagan oversaw a criminal enterprise in which 28 of his cabinet and advisors were convicted and many went to prison. Millions of Republicans adore him as the messiah of the Party. Bush and his henchmen, when the were unable to get the national intelligence agencies to back up their lies, they created their own intelligence agency, absolutely lied to the American people telling them that Saddam absolutely had weapon of mass destruction and was going share them with terrorists. The invasion of Iraq was solely instigated on control of their massive oil reserves. The cost: over 5,000 of our soldiers were killed and ten of thousands maimed for life. Rather than being in jail, their henchmen, such as Bolton, are now serving in the office of the presidency. Now we have Trump. The worst of the worst who has made swindling, lying, conspiracy with the enemy and molesting women his life time vocation.


Do I count any Republcians who continue to turn a blind eye to their party's treachery a friend. Absolutely not. At best I can only consider them to be unfortunate associates. Never friends. Friends are people that I respect for their honor, truthfulness, compassion, and faithfulness. Essential traits that I find totally lacking in those who compromise their values out of intentional disregard for deplorable facts.

underpants

(182,806 posts)
2. That's a message to their Russian debt holders
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:35 AM
Aug 2018

We know Manafort was deeply in debt to oligarchs. Trump we don't KNOW but we know.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
4. He just called Michael Cohen - who testified under oath - a liar
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:36 AM
Aug 2018

"break" - cut a deal - testifying under oath and under penalty of perjury, is not a 'made up story'

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
8. Who said this?
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:53 AM
Aug 2018

"We're soldiers. Soldiers don't go to hell. It's war. Soldiers kill other soldiers. We're in a situation where everyone involved knows the stakes and if you are going to accept those stakes, you've got to do certain things. It's business."

“Once you're into this family, there's no getting out.”

— Tony Soprano

PatSeg

(47,449 posts)
9. Whenever Trump tries to pay
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:53 AM
Aug 2018

someone a compliment, it comes across as very awkward, even odd. "Such respect for a brave man!" Manafort, "respect", and "brave" - one of these things is not like the other, one of these things doesn't belong.

Of course, the tweet sounds like a combination of a promise and a threat, as well as a big "screw you" to Cohen.

Meanwhile, I also sense concern that someone could pull up his old tax records and use them against him and his "wonderful family". With Trump, everything is always about Trump.

Botany

(70,506 posts)
10. "Don't worry about anything Frankie 5 Angels."
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:58 AM
Aug 2018


Manafort refused to "break" Donald Trump, The Donfather

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
16. Old School of the Old Timers....
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:18 AM
Aug 2018

It is truly creepy sometimes how much Trump sounds like a mobster out of the movies and sending messages.....

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
25. why do you think
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:58 AM
Aug 2018

people call him "the don", he's a criminal and a thug. And unfortunately he is tainting our country and the office he holds.

He's been there long enough.

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. This is the "law and order" president praising a convicted criminal.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:02 AM
Aug 2018

Republicans must be very proud.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
13. this potus
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:03 AM
Aug 2018

is such a wannabe thug with NO BACKBONE. If Mueller gets hold of him, he will crack immediately. Manafort has other trials coming up. We'll see how strong he is, won't we, you orange wannabe mafia boss POS?.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
14. Reality: Manafort was convicted of bank fraud in March and 'spring' 2016
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:07 AM
Aug 2018
Guilty of 2 counts of bank fraud
Finally, there was a separate set of charges related to what Manafort allegedly did to try to get millions more in cash once the president of Ukraine was deposed and those payments stopped coming in.

Prosecutors said that between 2015 and early 2017, Manafort defrauded or attempted to defraud several US banks, by lying about his company’s finances and other matters in loan applications.

To get a $3.4 million loan on a New York City condo he owned, Manafort falsely told Citizens Bank that the property was a second home when it was a rental property, failed to disclose previous mortgage debt, and, after the lender discovered that debt, falsely claimed it was forgiven. He was convicted of one count of bank fraud for this.

In search of another loan, Manafort submitted a doctored profit and loss form to the Banc of California that overstated his consulting firm’s income by more than $4 million. He was convicted of another count of bank fraud.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/21/17692626/manafort-guilty-charges-verdict

A California bank executive says he was not aware that Paul Manafort had allegedly lied on loan documents when he approved a $1 million for the former Trump campaign chairman.

Gary Seferian, a senior vice president at the Banc of California, says he would not have approved the loan to back Manafort's plan for a series of real estate purchases in spring 2016 if he had known Manafort had made false statements on his application.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article216366735.html

Prosecutors charged Manafort with bank fraud and bank fraud conspiracy related to a $3.4 million loan in March 2016 from Citizens Bank, a Rhode Island-based lender, secured by a condominium in the Soho neighborhood of Manhattan. Prosecutors say Manafort was not truthful in his application for the loan, falsely claiming that it was not held as a rental property in order to maximize the amount he could borrow from the bank. Manafort was also charged with one count of bank fraud conspiracy related to an attempt to get a separate $5.5 million loan from the bank on a brownstone in Brooklyn, which did not materialize.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-charges-factbox/factbox-ex-trump-aide-paul-manafort-faces-18-criminal-counts-idUSKBN1KK12V

“Paul is a great asset and an important addition as we consolidate the tremendous support we have received in the primaries,” Trump said in a statement on March 29, 2016.

Manafort quickly got to work, ensuring the Trump campaign had a presence during the selection process and showing up to the Republican National Committee’s spring meeting in April.

May 19, 2016: Manafort is promoted to campaign chairman
...
One month later, Manafort’s influence within the campaign appeared even more cemented after Trump fired campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, with whom Manafort had a well-documented power struggle.

http://fortune.com/2017/03/22/paul-manafort-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
19. "Among other things..."
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:28 AM
Aug 2018
{WSJ} Over two weeks at the trial, prosecutors called more than two-dozen witnesses and presented hundreds of emails, memos and financial documents that showed Mr. Manafort hadn’t paid taxes on some $16 million in income he earned as a political consultant in Ukraine between 2010 and 2014.


2014 was not "12 years ago," Drumphhead.

Prosecutors also accused Mr. Manafort of misleading multiple U.S. banks to obtain millions of dollars in loans in 2016 after that income dried up.


And yeah, it's real brave to lie in order to secure million dollar loans and cheat on your taxes. 2016 was around two years ago, by my math.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
21. Unindicted Co-conspirator Trump
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:39 AM
Aug 2018

can praise his good soldier Manafort now but he will sing like a bird later.

He goes on trial again soon to face many more years on prison. No way in hell is Manafort gonna spend the rest of his life behind bars for the Mob boss-in-charge!

Sammy the bull ratted out John Gotti, Manafort will do the same to UICC45!

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
22. Me and Franni think Trump dodged a bullet with this one
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:40 AM
Aug 2018

Trump won't need to exercise his pardon power, because he knows Manafort will never open his mouth, ever.

The Russians are all the incentive Paulie needs.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
23. HE'll change his tune
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:43 AM
Aug 2018

When he realizes he's talking to Mueller, then claim what a bad man and a liar he is. Manafort will flip as he watches the years stack up for him to serve. Even if trump pardons him they'll make him pay dearly by using more state charges to use against him trump can't prevent, and more costly for Manafort, and result in a longer prison terms, and more charges against trump for his treason , and all his corruption, obstructions , and all the cover ups.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
26. or if those supporters
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 11:04 AM
Aug 2018

do not shut up they will end up going over the edge too. They are not patriots and believe in that crappy propaganda which is being drilled into their heads by these criminals.

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