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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:11 PM Aug 2018

Giuliani: Mueller 'has to be winding down'

Source: The Hill




BY BRETT SAMUELS - 08/22/18 11:25 AM EDT

Rudy Giuliani told The Washington Post on Wednesday that he believes special counsel Robert Mueller "might be at the end" of his investigation into Russian interference after his prosecutors won a conviction against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort on eight of 18 counts.




Giuliani has frequently floated deadlines in the Mueller investigation without any indication that the special counsel is close to finishing his work. Giuliani has said multiple times that Mueller plans to finish his investigation by Sept. 1, but the special counsel has not commented publicly on the matter.

Mueller on Tuesday requested that sentencing for former national security adviser Michael Flynn be pushed back to Sept. 17, an indication that Mueller's work will extend into the fall. Flynn pleaded guilty last year to lying to the FBI as part of the special counsel's investigation.

Giuliani added on Wednesday that the president's legal team is considering its options in the wake of Michael Cohen pleading guilty to tax fraud, bank fraud and campaign finance law violations in a New York City court. Cohen testified that he violated campaign finance laws at the direction of a candidate for federal office, implicating President Trump.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/403011-giuliani-mueller-has-to-be-winding-down
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Giuliani: Mueller 'has to be winding down' (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2018 OP
You ain't seen nothing yet! Maeve Aug 2018 #1
Enjoy your golf game, Rudy. Are you meeting with anyone special there? Freethinker65 Aug 2018 #2
He's golfing in Scotland??!?? AZ8theist Aug 2018 #15
Maybe there's a reason he's out of the country right now..... groundloop Aug 2018 #23
Any reports of Russian's saidsimplesimon Aug 2018 #30
What's yer favorite Scotch, Rudy? And how much of it have you imbibed? lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #42
Is his cousin there? IncaRoads Aug 2018 #46
Indictments Rudy!!!! ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2018 #3
Talk to Trey Gowdy about winding down... pecosbob Aug 2018 #4
"Baghdad Bob" Rudy chimes in with an optimistic spin..... yellowcanine Aug 2018 #5
"he just has to!" he don't have to shit you say. fuck you ghouliani. nt Javaman Aug 2018 #6
Considering that Rudy said back in April NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #7
Now this is not the end. LanternWaste Aug 2018 #8
Heeheehee I love it. Oh boy. Is it 9/11 yet? truthisfreedom Aug 2018 #9
"What else is there?" PatSeg Aug 2018 #10
Exactly. cstanleytech Aug 2018 #13
There have to be so many aspects of all this PatSeg Aug 2018 #19
Wind down when done gearing up. Hasn't gotten to you yet, Rudy Snellius Aug 2018 #11
I don't know cannabis_flower Aug 2018 #34
I know. Too bad too. Snellius Aug 2018 #37
Rudy may need to have his medications adjusted if he actually thinks that. cstanleytech Aug 2018 #12
"Giuliani has frequently floated deadlines in the Mueller investigation" BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #14
Don't forget cannabis_flower Aug 2018 #35
I included Jr. as "Jr." (after Page) BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #41
Oops cannabis_flower Aug 2018 #43
No way in hell could he be left out! BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #45
Rudi is an idiot... SWBTATTReg Aug 2018 #16
Rudiot Le Gaucher Aug 2018 #25
Ha! Good one...I like! nt SWBTATTReg Aug 2018 #31
Winding down around your neck C_U_L8R Aug 2018 #17
I think Mueller is just winding UP. This is just the beginning. George II Aug 2018 #18
As they are backed into the corner..... Chakaconcarne Aug 2018 #20
Much of the insanity coming from the Trump crew Mr.Bill Aug 2018 #21
Rudy honey, Mueller hasn't gotten out of third gear yet. sarge43 Aug 2018 #22
It took a long time to wrap up Watergate. murielm99 Aug 2018 #24
More like going into second gear. appleannie1943 Aug 2018 #26
The Mueller investigation is like wine or cheese. The longer it stays under wraps, the better it is appleannie1943 Aug 2018 #27
Time isnt the critical thing. Making it a good and honest investigation IS important. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #28
Wishful thinking but wrong as usual. Mueller just beginning and we wait beachbum bob Aug 2018 #29
ah yes, "Guilty isn't guilty" ... Jarqui Aug 2018 #32
This scene from 'Scent of a Woman' comes to mind Le Gaucher Aug 2018 #33
After yesterday, you'd think Mueller is just revving up, not winding down! n/t SpankMe Aug 2018 #36
Actually winding up a haymaker. Sneederbunk Aug 2018 #38
STFU Rudy LiberalLovinLug Aug 2018 #39
Hey Rudy, remember the other day, at the Manafort trial, MGKrebs Aug 2018 #40
"What else is there?" Grins Aug 2018 #44
As always, Rudi's just whistling past the graveyard. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2018 #47

AZ8theist

(5,470 posts)
15. He's golfing in Scotland??!??
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:36 PM
Aug 2018

If I was under criminal investigation, paying hundreds per hour for legal advice, and my lawyer was overseas golfing, I think I would get a different lawyer.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
23. Maybe there's a reason he's out of the country right now.....
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:23 PM
Aug 2018

He sure the hell picked a good time to disappear if that's his reason for being overseas right now.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
30. Any reports of Russian's
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 02:02 PM
Aug 2018

enjoying the course with Roody? Are they paying golf fees in cash? Just the cynic in me, I have no evidence.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
3. Indictments Rudy!!!!
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:13 PM
Aug 2018

Mueller will save the BEST for last. Fuck the timing right before the Midterms. Just do it!

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
4. Talk to Trey Gowdy about winding down...
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:14 PM
Aug 2018

Talk to Jason Chaffetz about winding down...they're still chasing a non-existant email scandal.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
7. Considering that Rudy said back in April
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:19 PM
Aug 2018

that he would get Mueller to wrap it up in a week or two, soon in Rudy's eyes might be some time around 2025 that it will be wrapped up?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. Now this is not the end.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:19 PM
Aug 2018

It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

(W.Churchill)

PatSeg

(47,486 posts)
10. "What else is there?"
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:20 PM
Aug 2018

So many good laughs this morning"He has to be winding down" means "God let there be nothing else."

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
13. Exactly.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:30 PM
Aug 2018

I suspect the big one would be Manafort if he rolls over to avoid going to jail then its curtains not just for Trump but for the entire Repugnant party as they gambled that their stonewalling the Russian investigation would pay off for them.
Now though our guys have a chance to tie it around all their necks like a 5000 ton anchor.

PatSeg

(47,486 posts)
19. There have to be so many aspects of all this
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:46 PM
Aug 2018

that most of us couldn't even begin to guess, but I can picture a lot of very nervous people freaking out behind closed doors popping Xanax like M&Ms. I wonder how many other people will suddenly be taking vacations overseas to play golf.

Many years ago I saw the movie "Z" in the theater and in the end as the authorities gathered up all the culprits, the audience stood and applauded. That was the first time I'd ever experienced that in a theater and it was incredible. I feel like we are almost at that point in the movie and the feeling is very satisfying.

“Remember that all through history, there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they seem invincible. But in the end, they always fall. Always.”

― Mahatma Gandhi, The Story of My Experiments With Truth

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
11. Wind down when done gearing up. Hasn't gotten to you yet, Rudy
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:23 PM
Aug 2018

It's your client's fault for giving him so much work to do.

Classic rule on how to defuse a scandal damage control: Confess everything upfront, right off the bat. Even if you don't think your guilty. You can always back off later and nobody cares as much as about the trying to cover it up. Say you're sorry, try to fix it, and move on.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
37. I know. Too bad too.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 02:58 PM
Aug 2018

He was a good decent guy with enough of a conscience, that he had qualms enough to quit. Wrong what he did. But honorable in his response. But in comparison... The only way he violated the rule was to quit. Sort of the whole purpose of the damage-control rule. He'll be back.

BumRushDaShow

(129,067 posts)
14. "Giuliani has frequently floated deadlines in the Mueller investigation"
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:32 PM
Aug 2018

There was someone from one of the papers on last night (I think he was on Ali Velshi-in-for-Ari's show or maybe Chris Hayes) where he said that he has been covering these "the end is near" deadlines for the past 8 months.

They all keep forgetting that Manafort has a 2nd trial currently scheduled for September 17th (in addition to the above-mentioned Flynn sentencing on the same day)... and then there are still folks hanging out there like Roger Stone, Assange, Carter Page, Jr., Maria Butrina, probably all of the NRA leadership, and Kushner. And now with this Drumpf Co. connection to campaign finance issues, you have that entity still to be investigated (further). PLUS there was mention again about the Novartis (and other companies) "pay to play" stuff with Cohen.

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
16. Rudi is an idiot...
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:38 PM
Aug 2018

He should know better than anyone else that the wheels of justice turn slowly, but surely.

Chakaconcarne

(2,453 posts)
20. As they are backed into the corner.....
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:47 PM
Aug 2018

What else can he say?

It's just going to get real stupid from here on.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
21. Much of the insanity coming from the Trump crew
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:54 PM
Aug 2018

is the result of Mueller saying nothing and leaking nothing. It's driving them bat-shit crazy, and it's hilarious to watch.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
28. Time isnt the critical thing. Making it a good and honest investigation IS important.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 02:00 PM
Aug 2018

Im glad for yesterday. Helps get the ball rolling w the media and public outcry.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
29. Wishful thinking but wrong as usual. Mueller just beginning and we wait
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 02:00 PM
Aug 2018

For the indictment bomb on stone, don jr and Kirshner....and we haven't got to the Russian/trump collusion yet

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
32. ah yes, "Guilty isn't guilty" ...
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 02:18 PM
Aug 2018
'move along ... nothing more to see here ...'

lyin' sack of you-know-what

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
39. STFU Rudy
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 03:12 PM
Aug 2018

Didn't he already use that line a few times in the last year already?

I gather its some kind of deflated attempt to influence the public to get impatient and thus put pressure on Mueller and the DOJ to cause them to hastily wrap everything up and go forward not fully prepared. And maybe in doing so make a mistake that Trump's team can pounce on.

Good luck with that. Mueller is proving he is a 1000x the lawyer Rudy is.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
40. Hey Rudy, remember the other day, at the Manafort trial,
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 03:17 PM
Aug 2018

when the prosecutors objected to a line of questioning of Rick Gates? And remember they then had a sidebar? And when they came back the defense went to another line of questioning? And then the judge sealed the sidebar conversation? Remember that? Because the judge said allowing it to be seen by the public "would reveal substantive evidence pertaining to an ongoing government investigation."

Hmmm. There is a bit of a gap there between "winding down" and "another ongoing investigation".

Trump is dragging all his grifter hangers-on down, so you just better hope you've kept your nose clean, because you KNOW they will be looking at you too.

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