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groundloop

(11,521 posts)
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:36 PM Aug 2018

Big oil asks government to protect its Texas facilities from climate change

Source: CBS News

As the nation plans new defenses against the more powerful storms and higher tides expected from climate change, one project stands out: an ambitious proposal to build a nearly 60-mile "spine" of concrete seawalls, earthen barriers, floating gates and steel levees on the Texas Gulf Coast.

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The plan is focused on a stretch of coastline that runs from the Louisiana border to industrial enclaves south of Houston that are home to one of the world's largest concentrations of petrochemical facilities, including most of Texas' 30 refineries, which represent 30 percent of the nation's refining capacity.

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"The oil and gas industry is getting a free ride," said Brandt Mannchen, a member of the Sierra Club's executive committee in Houston. "You don't hear the industry making a peep about paying for any of this and why should they? There's all this push like, 'Please Senator Cornyn, Please Senator Cruz, we need money for this and that.'"

Normally outspoken critics of federal spending, Texas Sens. John Cornyn and Ted Cruz both backed using taxpayer funds to fortify the oil facilities' protections and the Texas coast. Cruz called it "a tremendous step forward."

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-protect-oil-facilities-from-climate-change-coastal-spine/



I really wish we could post more than 4 paragraphs, this is a hugely important story and well worth the read.
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Big oil asks government to protect its Texas facilities from climate change (Original Post) groundloop Aug 2018 OP
Spend your damn tax cuts. Just Carl Aug 2018 #1
The oil companies should foot some of the bill TexasBushwhacker Aug 2018 #2
I understand your concern The Liberal Lion Aug 2018 #11
What climate change ? Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2018 #3
These walls AREN'T for climate change...just security you see...a wall Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #5
And Mexico Is Going To Pay For It (sarcasm).....nt global1 Aug 2018 #4
Thanks for posting this. northoftheborder Aug 2018 #6
The fossil fuel industry is very powerful and gives lots of money to politicians. Is it any jalan48 Aug 2018 #7
Give them the same consideration central scrutinizer Aug 2018 #8
Oil companies want protection from climate change? Well, the climate wanted protection from oil tclambert Aug 2018 #9
I was just thinking of the utter hypocrisy of this whole idea myself... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #15
Well....... JPK Aug 2018 #10
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #12
I really wish we had smiley HaHa recs like Facebook. raging moderate Aug 2018 #13
Kick dalton99a Aug 2018 #14
We have questions.... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #16

TexasBushwhacker

(20,208 posts)
2. The oil companies should foot some of the bill
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:42 PM
Aug 2018

But Texas refineries on the Gulf Coast handle roughly a third of all the crude oil processed in the US. It's an issue that effects the whole country.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
11. I understand your concern
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 11:28 PM
Aug 2018

But if the federal government is unwillingly to subsidize alternative energy I'll be damned if they should subsidize oil and coal. No! I say let's affect the whole country so it wakes the fuck up from it's fossil fuel drunken stupor. If big oil wants to pay for protection from the consequences of it's profits then so be it but unless oil is nationalized (since it's of such grave importance to the country) I'd be against. Let them eat hurricanes as far as I'm concerned.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
5. These walls AREN'T for climate change...just security you see...a wall
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:45 PM
Aug 2018

to keep the illegals from stealing their oil...nothing to see here....move along.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
6. Thanks for posting this.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:45 PM
Aug 2018

Had not heard of this, and I live in Texas. Billions given to the industry which has helped cause these weather problems.

jalan48

(13,877 posts)
7. The fossil fuel industry is very powerful and gives lots of money to politicians. Is it any
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 09:48 PM
Aug 2018

wonder they get what they want?

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
9. Oil companies want protection from climate change? Well, the climate wanted protection from oil
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:23 PM
Aug 2018

companies. We gonna get any of that?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
15. I was just thinking of the utter hypocrisy of this whole idea myself...
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 01:40 AM
Aug 2018

Like the bank robber wanting police protection for his loot.......

JPK

(653 posts)
10. Well.......
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:59 PM
Aug 2018

Why didn't they think ahead and plan for the issues that might affect their company? Like the banks in 2008 now they want the taxpayers to bail them out? Take a fucking hike mofo's.

raging moderate

(4,307 posts)
13. I really wish we had smiley HaHa recs like Facebook.
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 12:50 AM
Aug 2018
Dear oil companies: Hooray and hallelujah! Ya had it comin' to ya!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
16. We have questions....
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 02:09 AM
Aug 2018

Such as...
* Who is considering the environmental impact of this sea wall? That is, effects on the estuaries, marine wildlife and overall health of the Gulf.
* Houston has experienced tremendous land subsistence over the past hundred years of so. In the event of a hurricane, how will they get rid of the ground water (hint - they blew it with Harvey)?
* As in Florida, as sea levels rise, what will prevent influx of salt water into the aquifers? (sea walls do not prevent that, long-term)

The Repug comments align perfectly with what I would expect.......
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Texas has not tapped its own rainy day fund of around $11 billion. According to federal rules, 35 percent of funds spent by the Army Corps of Engineers must be matched by local jurisdictions, and the GOP-controlled state Legislature could help cover such costs. But such spending may be tough for many conservatives to swallow.

Texas "should be funding things like this itself," said Chris Edwards, an economist at the libertarian Cato Institute. "Texans are proud of their conservatism, but, unfortunately, when decisions get made in Washington, that frugality goes out the door."

State officials counter that protecting the oil facilities is a matter of national security. "The effects of the next devastating storm could be felt nationwide," Rep. Randy Weber, a fiercely conservative Republican from suburban Houston who has nonetheless authored legislation backing the coastal spine.


Just as one might expect, Repugs claim this is crucial to national security. Next, they'll want federal police protection for all golf courses in the country....for national security.

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