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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:09 AM Aug 2012

OOPS: Mitt Romney Calls United States A ‘Company’

Source: Think Progress

OOPS: Mitt Romney Calls United States A ‘Company’
By Annie-Rose Strasser on Aug 31, 2012 at 11:05 am

Mitt Romney is focused on convincing Americans that his private-sector business record qualifies him to be President, which is perhaps why he accidentally called the United States of America a “company” instead of a “country” on Friday.

While Romney has spoken extensively about running the government more efficiently, like a private business, he has never compared the entire American enterprise to an actual business enterprise. But today, at an event in Florida, Romney did just that, saying his administration will reach out to people who “want to make sure this company deals with its challenges”:

Paul Ryan and I understand how the economy works, we understand how Washington works, we will reach across the aisle and find good people who like us, want to make sure this company deals with its challenges. We’ll get America on track again.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/31/783791/romney-calls-america-company/

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OOPS: Mitt Romney Calls United States A ‘Company’ (Original Post) kpete Aug 2012 OP
Welcome to the United States of Corporations... rfranklin Aug 2012 #1
of by and for the corporations and their bribed hacks in Congress wordpix Aug 2012 #3
He also thinks America is made up of Nations, not States tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #2
So do many other Republicans. Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #9
Freudian slip? Think so n/t Hestia Aug 2012 #4
Either that , Or. cyclezealot Aug 2012 #27
Has anyone noticed how he walks? Skarbrowe Aug 2012 #36
give Mitt a break... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #53
The rod up his butt has a rod up its' butt! NICO9000 Sep 2012 #56
Two different diseases, but speaking from a long personal experience, I do think he's in beginning sad sally Aug 2012 #37
Wow Scairp Aug 2012 #46
Wow..so he CAN truthfully speak his mind! dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #5
Like Mitt Romney Rain Mcloud Aug 2012 #6
I KNEW IT! Xyzse Aug 2012 #7
Agreed! nt avebury Aug 2012 #13
It Will Be the "Rain" Company/Country..A merging of Bain and Romney grilled onions Aug 2012 #8
Why Not oldsarge54 Aug 2012 #10
Need some good DU bumperstickers for that quote. livetohike Aug 2012 #11
lost mittens really has trouble with speaking doesn't he? Javaman Aug 2012 #12
LOL. =p AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #41
ShitRmoney's version of the consitution... L0oniX Aug 2012 #14
"Corporations are friends, too, my people.".... lastlib Aug 2012 #22
+++++ marions ghost Aug 2012 #23
yeah heaven05 Aug 2012 #15
Terrifying considering what he did to his employees. The 'head chopper' in charge. Heads will roll: freshwest Aug 2012 #16
I'm afraid he'll outsource Indiana to balance the budget catbyte Aug 2012 #20
He'd sell the land out from under our feet. Privatization is economic apartheid, creating serfdom. freshwest Aug 2012 #25
any chance he'd sell Maine to Canada?!?! magical thyme Aug 2012 #26
goodbye State of Liberty, Washington Mon., Smithsonian museums & national parks wordpix Aug 2012 #29
Make that gated, millionaire housing and you got it. I've seen it done to park land already. freshwest Aug 2012 #33
We are already on the path that Romney used to make a profit from comapnies at Bain: Blue Meany Aug 2012 #17
Mitt wants his hands on that pension/medical account the Post Office has been racking up Dont call me Shirley Aug 2012 #44
?? ejbr Aug 2012 #18
Mitt wants to "right size" the US population MNBrewer Aug 2012 #19
It soon will be. lastlib Aug 2012 #21
Please tell me MoveOn and others are already incorporating this in a campaign ad... CBHagman Aug 2012 #24
So they're out on the campaign xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #28
Dear Bishop Rmoney: The Oval Office is not a boardroom, and the United States of America is not in kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #30
Combine that with "corporations are people, my friend!" and you have a great ad for Obama. truthisfreedom Aug 2012 #31
It's not an oops. He's telling the truth about what he'd do if he won. sakabatou Aug 2012 #32
Well Dayum!! Pack yo' bags cuz he 'bout to send us all to China Heather MC Aug 2012 #34
And Dubya was the 'CEO President' FiveGoodMen Aug 2012 #35
FINALLy. This is how repugs run GOVT like a business-Top/down de ciders. Mgement get CarmanK Aug 2012 #38
The UNITED STATES really IS a CORPORATION KeepinItReal Aug 2012 #39
LOL, really? AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #42
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #43
hey, you are off to a great start here. we need all the humour we can get. niyad Aug 2012 #48
Here are the facts. Moosepoop Aug 2012 #49
one wonders why there are some americans who would newspeak Sep 2012 #55
Good Lord, where to begin jberryhill Aug 2012 #52
He seems strange and detached, much more than usual.. mountain grammy Aug 2012 #40
If the governor of Utah is any example, they can't wait to sell off the public lands to their buds Coyotl Aug 2012 #45
well, he has to tell the truth once in a while, yes? niyad Aug 2012 #47
So... Jeff Murdoch Aug 2012 #50
Don't forget, "companies are PEOPLE, my friend"! George II Aug 2012 #51
He probably isn't far off... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #54
Hey Willard ... area51 Sep 2012 #57

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
2. He also thinks America is made up of Nations, not States
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:13 AM
Aug 2012



'Nations abroad and nations of the United States...'



cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
27. Either that , Or.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:44 PM
Aug 2012

He's what 65.. At what age does Mad Cow disease ( alzheimer's ) set in. He has released his health history. ?

Skarbrowe

(1,083 posts)
36. Has anyone noticed how he walks?
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 05:07 PM
Aug 2012

Romney walks like he's walking on a wet floor and doesn't want to fall. If he has something seriously wrong with him I don't want to make jokes about it. It seems like Chris Matthews is the only other person I've heard comment on how Romney seems to glide like a robot. Maybe he's getting stiff in the physical sense of the word. Getting old is a bitch.

I don't think he is making a mental error when he keeps saying "company". His brain won't allow him to say anything else. It's been his whole adult life. But, dang, it is very scary.

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
37. Two different diseases, but speaking from a long personal experience, I do think he's in beginning
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 05:20 PM
Aug 2012

stages of Alheimer's. Mrs, Mitt-Ann's job seems to be one of many spouses who don't want anyone to know what's happening to the person.

from Daily Kos:

Alzheimer's is no laughing matter and this Diary is not meant to be funny. I seriously wonder if Romney has Alzheimer's. In my opinion, he is showing the signs of a person who is in the early stages of Alzheimer's or some other type of dementia.

One of the early symptoms to Alzheimer's is short-term memory loss, forgetting what you recently said or did. Confusion and poor judgment are also early signs. In the early stages, the patient can still function in society but lacks good judgment so usually family members will step in to correct any problem the poor judgment may have caused.

For months, we have literally witnessed Romney say one thing, then within seconds tell the media he did not say it. Then we go back to the video, and sure enough, Romney said what we thought he said. Now, I know Romney is a pathological liar -- but I think there is something more going on.

I remember several, several times when Ann Romney has had to step in to correct comments Mitt has said and then the campaign puts Mitt on a Media Blackout.

If you watch Romney's face when he denies saying what he just said, Romney gets a confused and bewildered look in his eyes. It is the confusion on his face that makes me think he has Alzheimer's. Reagan, and other patients of Alheimer's would get that same look.

the rest at: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/01/1115628/-Does-Romney-Have-Alzheimer-s-Seriously-Does-He
...................

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
46. Wow
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:02 PM
Aug 2012

That had never even occurred to me but he is the right age to show symptoms, if he has it. I don't know, I tend to think it's not that at all but he accidentally said what he meant.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
7. I KNEW IT!
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:57 AM
Aug 2012

He plans to run it like he acquired it.

Put it in to bankruptcy and even more debt, pocket the difference.

Ugh, basserd.

grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
8. It Will Be the "Rain" Company/Country..A merging of Bain and Romney
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:02 PM
Aug 2012

What fun he will have "firing" the elderly,the sick,disabled,unemployed and anyone else who he considers a drag on his profits.

oldsarge54

(582 posts)
10. Why Not
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:20 PM
Aug 2012

Afterall, Romney and the Republicans feel that the country should be run like a corporation. And the Tea Party feels the nation should be run FOR the corporations.

<a href="" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt="MrTeaonleadership"></a>

livetohike

(22,147 posts)
11. Need some good DU bumperstickers for that quote.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:28 PM
Aug 2012

His "corporations are people" quote was also a good one. It's all he ever thinks about - business. He probably thinks of his family members as his little assets. Poor Seamus (the dog) was a debit .

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
12. lost mittens really has trouble with speaking doesn't he?
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:05 PM
Aug 2012

Scene: Nuclear bombs falling all around the US. president romney holds his head in his hands wailing.

romney: I didn't mean to say nuke you all to h-e-double hockey sticks! I meant let's be friends.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
41. LOL. =p
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 05:52 PM
Aug 2012

In all seriousness, though, I don't see that happening. He'd be impeached long before he could start WWIII.
(I'd be real worried about how Mitt might respond to nuclear terrorism, though. )

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
23. +++++
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:00 PM
Aug 2012

It's so horrible living in a sham of a Democracy, where the vision of the Founding fathers has been completely corrupted...and yet we hear all this lip service to the Constitution...

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. yeah
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:24 PM
Aug 2012

and if he gets elected all women, elderly, gays and melanin pigmented individuals will be outsourced.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
16. Terrifying considering what he did to his employees. The 'head chopper' in charge. Heads will roll:
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:29 PM
Aug 2012

catbyte

(34,406 posts)
20. I'm afraid he'll outsource Indiana to balance the budget
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:52 PM
Aug 2012

This clown doesn't have a clue as to what it takes to be President.

Diane
Anishinaabe in MI & mom to Taz, Nigel, and baby brother Sammy, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division
"Dogs Aren’t Luggage--HISS!”

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
25. He'd sell the land out from under our feet. Privatization is economic apartheid, creating serfdom.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:13 PM
Aug 2012

And all of the non-profitable units, human beings, etc. would have to go for the bottom line. Good luck Indiana and all of us if he gets in.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
29. goodbye State of Liberty, Washington Mon., Smithsonian museums & national parks
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:51 PM
Aug 2012

it costs too much to maintain them for the public. Let the corporations take them over and charge for use or better yet, build some malls and housing developments on the land.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
33. Make that gated, millionaire housing and you got it. I've seen it done to park land already.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 03:34 PM
Aug 2012

They get some non-profit working for them to shine on the public, then parcel it off. No more folks from the city coming out to get their share of natural beauty they paid taxes for, keep them out forever, I've even seen LTE in these wealthy suburbs say they don't deserve to visit the forests, period. What many people sacrifice to make a living in the cities, they pay taxes to keep civilized, but the reactionaries don't want them to enjoy it when they can hand it to their pals.

The theft of the commons is rapidly increasing and stratifying society. For the quick buck, people go along, until they are as trapped as the people of Europe were by the holdings of royalty. They want to confine the majority to slums, with a few wealthy fortresses, as south of the border and other countries, to be picked off one at a time or en mass as a nuisance.

They hate everyone who's not in the 1%. Sorry to sound gloomy, but history repeats itself. There is no reason to believe it can't or won't happen here. By 2050, the population of the USA is predicted to be a billion, three times more than it is now.

They want to steal from us every single thing while they can. I hate to think of the world we are going to leave our children, if we cannot pull together to work on keeping a humane society.

Medieval repression took several centuries to overcome. So will this, but we may be laying the groundwork for permanent global tyranny. It's not the future we had worked so hard to create, and it does not have to be this way.

We need philosophers, not priests or merchants to guide us, not the vulture capitalists. They are using media to create the illusion of the inevitability of an inhuman and wasteful dystopia.

We can adjust and do this the best way, but reactionaries are working to create fascistic state that will only advantage them. Ugh.

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
17. We are already on the path that Romney used to make a profit from comapnies at Bain:
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:36 PM
Aug 2012

*Load the company up with debt. check (Deficit spending)

*Transfer the borrowed money to Bain as management fees. check (Borrow money to give tax cuts for the rich)

*Grab the pension funds and take them for management fees. (Using Social Security taxes to fund tax breaks for the rich and for corporations).

*Try to weasel out of paying the debts or pay them at pennies on the dollar; go bankrupt and stick the government with pension obligations. Not yet done, but Romney/Ryan are working on it, by seeking to avoid honoring social security obligations, which are a large chunk of the national debt. Unfortunately, there's no government to turn to for a bail out, so the Romney model fails at this point.


lastlib

(23,251 posts)
21. It soon will be.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:56 PM
Aug 2012

Corporations are already making tender offers, and Rmoney will probly accept them for pennies on the dollar.

CBHagman

(16,986 posts)
24. Please tell me MoveOn and others are already incorporating this in a campaign ad...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:02 PM
Aug 2012

...along with all of Mitt's greatest hits, as it were.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
28. So they're out on the campaign
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:49 PM
Aug 2012

trail, convention is over.....have we heard ANY policy specifics yet? Anything at all? Or is that to be kept hidden, like his tax returns?

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
30. Dear Bishop Rmoney: The Oval Office is not a boardroom, and the United States of America is not in
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:55 PM
Aug 2012

any way like a business.

Clint Eastwood got it wrong. Attorneys make fine presidents. Corporate CEOs do not.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
34. Well Dayum!! Pack yo' bags cuz he 'bout to send us all to China
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 04:50 PM
Aug 2012

That is what he does to American Companies right?

Well my Room with 12 women and one bathroom better have a view!!

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
35. And Dubya was the 'CEO President'
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 05:05 PM
Aug 2012

To them we're all just slav-- I mean, employees.

And WAY too many of our peers are fine with that because they worship the "free market" as a god.

CarmanK

(662 posts)
38. FINALLy. This is how repugs run GOVT like a business-Top/down de ciders. Mgement get
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 05:34 PM
Aug 2012

Well we finally know what the repugs/gop/tparty have been advocating for 30 years. "Have to run govt like a business, so that it will be more efficient, get rid of waste and all those ppl off of govt pensions". And of course, ppl like workers are on their own, they either make it or not, but that is not the problem of the business. If they don't work out, just fire and replace. And of course, give to those who give back. Privatize govt services to buddies, outsource jobs to gain cheaper products, forget regulations: so a few ppl die, Massey Mines didn't go to jail for the negligence connected with the death of 29 miners. they were expendable. Misuse the military to open oil fields and pave paths to American take over of other countries. Remember how Iraq would pay for the war with oil Revenues. Halliburtan didn't get the contract and americans never got paid back. Be sure that govt workers and regulators are in bed with industries they supervise, oversee; that way kickbacks welcomed and small things overlooked. WELL now you know what Running govt like a business looks like. Of course,outsourcing jobs, and hiding money in off shore bank accounts to avoid taxation is just smart business practices not treason.
And we have the GOP/TPARTY gloating over voter suppression in OH,PA,FL: loving TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION in MI where Emergency financial Managers dismantle democracy and sell off common good assets for a song. And of course, we have the Jan Brewer in AZ, proudly transferring funds from the ORGAN TRANSPLANT FUND for the poor to reward her private prison buddies. So a few ppl died, just collateral damage. It's govt/business in the US of America a new form of decadence never seen in history.

 

KeepinItReal

(2 posts)
39. The UNITED STATES really IS a CORPORATION
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 05:42 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:10 PM - Edit history (1)

It even OFFICIALLY defines itself as such. Here is the specific area where that info can be found:

USC › Title 28 › Part VI › Chapter 176 › Subchapter A › § 3002

To be more specific, the exact text in the definitions section listed above says:

(15) “United States” means—
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.

Seems QUITE clear to me. The TRUTH is the TRUTH


EDIT:
HOW INCREDIBLY PATHETIC IT IS THAT SOMEONE CAN MAKE A CHARACTER ATTACK AGAINST MY POST - AND IGNORE THE FACTS I PRESENT, and their character attack is allowed to remain, but my rebuttal to it is DELETED. THEN, I am not allowed to make further comment. THIS PLACE IS A JOKE

Response to AverageJoe90 (Reply #42)

Moosepoop

(1,920 posts)
49. Here are the facts.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:43 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.supremelaw.org/letters/us-v-usa.htm

There are quite a few "activists" running around the Internet

claiming that the "United States" and the "United States of

America" are both corporations. These claims are not correct,

for the reasons already stated above.


A similar error occurs when these so-called “activists” cite

the federal statute at 28 U.S.C. 3002 as their only “proof”

that the “United States” was incorporated by Congress.

Here’s the pertinent text of that statute:



http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/28/3002.html



As used in this chapter:

...

(15) "United States" means --

(A) a Federal corporation;

(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or

other entity of the United States; or

(C) an instrumentality of the United States.


[end excerpt]


First of all, note well that the stated scope of this definition

is limited to “this chapter” i.e. CHAPTER 176 of Title 28 –

Federal Debt Collection Procedures. Overlooking the

limited scope of such definitions is a very common error

among many, if not all self-styled experts. At best, this section

cannot be used as evidence that the federal government

should be treated as a valid corporation for all other intents

and purposes. It takes a LOT more text than this one limited

definition to create any federal corporation! Compare the

original Statutes at Large that created the Union Pacific

Railroad Company, for example.


Secondly, from the evidence above it should already

be clear that the “United States” (federal government)

is not now, and never has been, a federal corporation.

The statute at 28 U.S.C. 3002 merely defines the

term “United States” to embrace all existing federal

corporations. Because the United States was not

an existing corporation when Congress enacted

section 3002, that statute did not create and could

not have created the United States as a federal

corporation in the first instance.


Much more at link...

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
55. one wonders why there are some americans who would
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 12:13 PM
Sep 2012

gladly "cut off their nose to spite their face." They listen to the emotional, fabricating blowhards in the media, convincing their dittohead followers that they deserve low wages, having their pensions ripped off and wall street can't function without deregulating. Maybe some should actually read some jefferson, lincoln and even eisenhower, how the power of corporations can lead to the voice of the people going bye-bye.

didn't mussolini say something like: "fascism is government and business WORKING AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE?"

We are suffering the consequence of having a so called "business" president. The worst business president ever (the only way he made moolah was having daddy's friends invest and alleged insider trading on his own damn company)--we do not need another heartless, greedy business president.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
52. Good Lord, where to begin
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:22 PM
Aug 2012

That is a rule of construction for that chapter of the US Code.

You've been inhaling "sovereign citizen law" fumes again.

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
40. He seems strange and detached, much more than usual..
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 05:42 PM
Aug 2012

I think there might be something physically or mentally wrong with the man.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
45. If the governor of Utah is any example, they can't wait to sell off the public lands to their buds
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:55 PM
Aug 2012

and offshore the profits

Jeff Murdoch

(168 posts)
50. So...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:20 PM
Aug 2012

he will load it up with more debt, which he and his buddies will pocket, lay off all the workers, then walk away from the burning wreck?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
54. He probably isn't far off...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 10:05 PM
Aug 2012

seriously, who writes legislation? Lobbyists do, then the puppets just vote on it.

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